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ugh the whole at-will thing is so confusing! like they can fire you for literally anything but then sometimes you can still get unemployment?? makes no sense to me but glad it worked out for you OP
I know it seems contradictory! The way it works is that at-will means they can fire you without advance notice for most reasons, but unemployment benefits protect workers who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. So even though they CAN fire you easily, if the reason isn't misconduct, you still deserve support while looking for new work.
Just wanted to add that when you file your claim, make sure to emphasize that your termination was due to "lack of work" or "position elimination" rather than performance issues. NYS Department of Labor has specific categories for separation reasons, and choosing the right one can help streamline your approval process. Also, don't forget that you'll need to certify for benefits every week once your claim is processed - you can do this online or by phone. Good luck with your claim!
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to all this unemployment stuff and didn't realize there were specific categories for separation reasons. When you say "certify for benefits every week" - what exactly does that involve? Is it just confirming that I'm still unemployed and looking for work? I want to make sure I don't mess anything up once my claim gets approved.
I'm dealing with the exact same nightmare right now! Been trying to reach NY unemployment for over 2 weeks about my pending claim and that 888-209-8124 number is absolutely useless. I've probably called 300+ times and either get immediate busy signals, sit on hold for hours just to get disconnected, or hear that dreaded "call volume too high" message. This thread is incredible though - so much more helpful than anything on the official DOL site! I'm definitely going to try the Spanish line transfer trick tomorrow morning at exactly 8:00 AM based on all the success stories here. The strategy of calling at 7:59:50 to hit the system right when it opens is genius. I'm also considering that Claimyr service since multiple people have had success with it. At this point the constant failed calling attempts are seriously affecting my mental health and job search efforts, so paying for something that actually works might be worth it. One question for those who've gotten through - did you notice any difference in success rates between different days of the week? I've been trying mostly Mondays and Tuesdays but maybe mid-week would be better based on what some people mentioned about avoiding the Monday rush. It's absolutely insane that we need a whole community strategy guide just to access our own benefits, but I'm so grateful everyone is sharing what actually works instead of the useless official advice. The fact that most of these turn out to be simple 5-minute fixes once you reach an agent makes this broken system even more infuriating!
I'm in the exact same situation! Just joined this community because I've been struggling with the same nightmare for weeks. From reading through this thread, Wednesday and Thursday seem to have better success rates than Monday/Tuesday - several people mentioned avoiding the Monday rush. The Spanish line transfer trick at exactly 8:00 AM seems to be the most consistently successful strategy based on everyone's experiences here. I'm planning to try that tomorrow along with having all my documents ready and doing the rapid callback method if I get busy signals. It's so encouraging to see that most of these issues really are simple fixes once you finally reach someone. This community has been more helpful than months of official DOL resources! Definitely going to try mid-week calling and will report back if I have any success.
I've been following this thread while dealing with my own NY unemployment nightmare and wanted to share what finally worked for me yesterday! Like everyone here, I was stuck calling that useless 888-209-8124 number for over 3 weeks with zero success. What got me through was combining several strategies from this thread: 1. Called at exactly 7:59:45 AM to hit the system right at 8:00 2. Used the Spanish line trick (press 2, then ask for English transfer) - this was the game changer! 3. When I got busy signals, I hung up immediately and rapid-fire called back 23 times until I got hold music 4. Waited 1 hour 45 minutes on hold but finally reached Agent Michelle The ridiculous part? My claim was pending because of an "employer response delay" that was actually resolved weeks ago but never updated in their system. Agent Michelle fixed it in literally 2 minutes and my benefits were released today. For anyone still struggling - the Spanish line transfer is REAL. The queue is noticeably shorter. Also Wednesday morning seemed to work better than Monday/Tuesday for me. Don't give up! This thread saved my sanity and hopefully my experience helps someone else get through this broken system.
I'm in almost the exact same situation and this thread has been incredibly validating! Applied February 14th, completed ID.me verification 7 weeks ago, received my monetary determination letter but still stuck on pending. I've made probably 50+ phone calls with zero success getting through to anyone who can actually help. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it's crystal clear this is a systematic issue affecting February 2025 applicants rather than individual account problems. The consistency is remarkable - we all have nearly identical timelines with ID.me completed weeks ago, monetary letters received, but universally stuck in pending status. The formal complaint process that Anastasia outlined is exactly what I needed to learn about. I had no idea there was an internal review system that could escalate cases to someone with actual authority to resolve these holds. After nearly 2 months of feeling like I was shouting into the void, having a structured path to get real attention on my claim gives me hope for the first time. My plan based on all the excellent strategies shared here: 1. File the formal complaint tomorrow with detailed documentation and account screenshots 2. Try the 8am calling strategy using the specific 888-209-8124 number 3. Upload my W-2s proactively (I also had multiple employers during my base period) 4. Reach out through their official social media channels I also worked for a small startup that closed during the pandemic, so the employer verification issues mentioned here really resonate. Thank you everyone for sharing actual actionable solutions and success stories. After weeks of financial stress and uncertainty, this thread has given me the first concrete steps I can take. I'll definitely report back with results - we need to support each other through this broken system!
I'm also dealing with this exact nightmare and it's honestly a relief to find so many people with identical situations! Applied February 11th, completed ID.me 7 weeks ago, got my monetary determination letter but stuck on pending ever since. Like many of you, I also worked for multiple employers including a small company that had layoffs. The systematic nature of all our delays is both infuriating and validating - clearly something is broken with February 2025 processing, not our individual applications. I'm definitely going to try the formal complaint process that Anastasia shared since normal channels have been completely useless. One thing I wanted to add - I noticed my online account message center has been completely empty this whole time. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm wondering if there's a communication breakdown where they're trying to request additional info but it's not reaching us. Either way, I'm filing that complaint tomorrow and trying all the strategies mentioned here. We shouldn't have to become unemployment claim detectives just to get our benefits!
I'm in the exact same boat and reading through this thread has been both incredibly helpful and deeply frustrating! Applied February 16th, completed ID.me 7 weeks ago, received monetary determination letter but still stuck on pending. The identical timelines everyone is sharing really proves this is a systematic February processing failure. I'm planning to follow the same multi-pronged approach you outlined - the formal complaint process Anastasia shared seems like our best shot at getting someone who can actually access our files and see what's causing these holds. I'm also going to try uploading my W-2s proactively since I had 4 different employers during my base period (including a tech startup that downsized). What's really striking is that we've all been good claimants - we applied properly, completed ID.me when requested, received our monetary letters, and have been certifying weekly. Yet we're all stuck at the exact same point with zero communication about why. The fact that it took this Reddit thread to learn about internal escalation processes shows how broken their communication really is. Starting my documentation today and filing that complaint tomorrow. After 7 weeks of financial stress and feeling completely powerless, having concrete action steps gives me hope. Thanks for sharing your plan - let's all keep each other updated on what actually works!
I'm going through the EXACT same nightmare and this thread has been a godsend! Applied February 13th, completed ID.me verification 7 weeks ago, received my monetary determination letter but still stuck on pending. I've called over 60 times in the past month and haven't spoken to a single human being. The pattern everyone is describing here is undeniable - February 2025 applications, ID.me completed weeks ago, monetary letters received, but universally stuck in pending limbo. This is clearly a systematic processing failure affecting our specific batch, not individual account issues. I'm incredibly grateful for the actionable strategies shared here, especially Anastasia's detailed breakdown of the formal complaint process. I had absolutely no idea there was an internal escalation system that could assign someone with actual authority to review these cases. After nearly 2 months of feeling completely helpless, having a structured path forward gives me real hope. My action plan based on everyone's advice: 1. File the formal complaint today with comprehensive timeline and screenshots 2. Try the 8am sharp calling strategy with the 888-209-8124 number 3. Upload all my W-2s proactively (I also had multiple employers during base period) 4. Reach out via NYSDOL official social media channels I also worked for a startup that shut down suddenly, so the employer verification complications mentioned here really hit home. Thank you all for sharing real solutions instead of just venting - this is the first thread I've found where people actually got resolution. Will definitely update with results. We need to stick together and help each other navigate this broken system!
I was in a similar situation last year! I'm also on SSDI and was able to get unemployment benefits while looking for part-time work that accommodated my limitations. The key thing is being completely transparent with both agencies. When I applied for unemployment, I had to provide detailed medical documentation about what types of work I could do despite my disability. NYS DOL was actually pretty reasonable once I explained my situation properly. Yes, there's always a risk of triggering a disability review, but as long as you're honest about your capabilities and limitations, you should be okay. The Ticket to Work program that someone mentioned is definitely worth looking into too - it provides some protection while you transition back to work. Don't let fear stop you from trying to improve your situation!
@18d44134dd88 Thank you so much for sharing your experience! As someone new to this community, I've been researching this exact situation for a family member who's on SSDI but making progress with their condition. Your success story is incredibly encouraging. I'm curious about one specific aspect - when you mentioned being "completely transparent" with both agencies, did you find that NYS DOL workers were generally knowledgeable about disability/unemployment overlap cases, or did you have to educate them about the possibility? I've heard mixed things about whether local unemployment offices understand these nuanced situations. Also, did you end up needing to provide ongoing medical updates to maintain your unemployment eligibility, or was the initial documentation sufficient? Really appreciate you taking the time to help others navigate this complex process!
@18d44134dd88 This is incredibly reassuring to hear! I'm the original poster and have been going through all these responses feeling pretty overwhelmed. Your actual success with this process gives me so much hope. I'm particularly interested in how you handled the medical documentation piece - did your doctor need to use specific language about your work capabilities, or were general medical records sufficient? I have my next appointment with my doctor in two weeks and want to make sure I ask for the right documentation. Also, when you say you were transparent with both agencies, did you proactively reach out to Social Security to let them know you were applying for unemployment, or did you wait until you were approved? I'm trying to figure out the best order of operations here. Thanks so much for sharing your story - it's exactly what I needed to hear to feel confident about moving forward!
I've been following this thread and wanted to add my perspective as someone who works with disability advocacy. The confusion about unemployment and disability eligibility is really common, and it stems from the fact that these programs use different definitions of "disability" and "ability to work." For SSDI, you're considered disabled if you can't perform substantial gainful activity at the level you did before. But for unemployment, you just need to be able and available for some type of work, even if it's different from your previous job or has accommodations. The key is having clear medical documentation that outlines exactly what you CAN do, not just what you can't do. I'd recommend getting a functional capacity evaluation from your doctor that specifies things like "can sit for 4 hours with breaks" or "can lift up to 10 pounds" rather than just "has back problems." This gives both agencies concrete information to work with and helps avoid the appearance of contradiction between being "disabled" and "able to work.
@a45dff51643a This is exactly the kind of expert guidance I've been looking for! I'm actually the original poster and your explanation about the different definitions of disability between systems finally makes this all click for me. The functional capacity evaluation idea is brilliant - I've been struggling with how to present my situation in a way that shows I'm making progress without undermining my SSDI status. When you mention getting documentation about capabilities rather than just limitations, that's a complete mindset shift for me. My current medical records are all about what I can't do because of my condition, but I can see how reframing it as "what I can do within these parameters" would be much more effective for unemployment purposes. Do you have any recommendations for how to approach my doctor about this? Should I specifically ask for a functional capacity evaluation, or would it be better to explain that I'm exploring returning to work and need documentation of my current abilities? I want to make sure I'm asking for the right thing and that my doctor understands the context. Thanks so much for this professional insight - it's helping me see a clear path forward!
@a45dff51643a This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm new to navigating this whole system and the way you've explained the different definitions of disability between SSDI and unemployment really clarifies everything. I had been thinking about this all wrong - focusing on proving I'm "not disabled enough" instead of documenting what I'm actually capable of doing. The functional capacity evaluation sounds like exactly what I need. I'm wondering though - when requesting this from my doctor, should I explain that it's specifically for unemployment benefits, or would it be better to frame it as part of my return-to-work planning in general? I don't want to inadvertently create any issues with my current SSDI case by seeming too eager to work. Also, do you know if there are any specific formats or standardized forms that doctors typically use for functional capacity evaluations, or is it more of a narrative assessment? I want to make sure I'm asking for something that will actually be useful to NYS DOL when I apply. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise - it's giving me confidence that this is actually doable with the right preparation!
JacksonHarris
I was in a similar situation last year - got terminated from a warehouse job for not meeting picking rates after about 6 months. Like you, I had verbal warnings but no formal write-ups or improvement plans. I filed for unemployment immediately and was approved within about 10 days. The key thing is that NYS Department of Labor looks at whether you were willfully not performing versus just struggling to meet expectations. Since you were trying but couldn't hit the quotas, that's not misconduct. My advice is to file ASAP and be completely honest about the reason for termination. Don't try to sugar-coat it - just explain that you were terminated for not meeting production standards despite your efforts. The waiting can be stressful but most performance-related terminations get approved. Good luck!
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Liam McConnell
•This is really encouraging to hear! I'm glad you got approved so quickly. Did your employer try to contest your claim at all? I'm wondering if I should expect pushback from my company since they seemed pretty firm about the performance issues when they let me go. Also, when you say be completely honest - should I use their exact words about "not meeting production quotas" or phrase it differently?
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Emma Taylor
I work as a benefits counselor and deal with NYS Department of Labor cases regularly. Performance-related terminations have a very high approval rate for unemployment benefits. The fact that you only received verbal warnings and weren't put on a formal improvement plan actually works in your favor - it shows the employer didn't follow progressive discipline. When you file, be straightforward: "terminated for not consistently meeting production quotas." Don't overthink the wording. The department will focus on whether you were making a good faith effort to do your job, which it sounds like you were. File immediately since benefits are backdated to your filing date, not your termination date. Most performance cases I see get approved within 1-2 weeks unless there are complicating factors.
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