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I went through this same situation with Form 9143 about 8 months ago and totally understand the confusion! The letter really doesn't explain much, which made it way more stressful than it needed to be. Here's what I learned: Form 9143 basically means they couldn't verify your signature matched what they have on file, so they need additional proof that you are who you say you are. This happens more often than you'd think, especially if your signature has changed over time or if there was an issue with how your electronic signature was captured. The most important thing is to respond within 30 days of the notice date. Don't wait around trying to figure it out on your own - call the phone number on the letter first thing. Yes, the hold times are brutal, but the agent can tell you exactly which form triggered the notice and what specific documents they need from you. When I called, they told me I needed to send copies of my driver's license and Social Security card, plus a signed statement with multiple examples of my current signature. I sent everything via certified mail with return receipt and included a cover letter referencing the notice number. The whole thing got resolved in about 6 weeks. It's definitely nerve-wracking when you first get the letter, but it's actually a pretty routine verification process for them. Just don't ignore it or miss the deadline!
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through it! I just got my Form 9143 yesterday and was honestly panicking a bit. The 30-day deadline seems so tight when you're trying to figure out what they actually want. Did you have any trouble getting through when you called, or do you have any tips for the best times to call? I've heard the IRS phone lines are basically impossible, but it sounds like calling is really the key to getting the right information.
I had the same panic reaction when I got mine! For calling the IRS, I found the best times were early morning (around 7-8 AM) or later in the afternoon after 3 PM - avoid calling mid-morning when everyone else is trying to get through. Also, try calling on Tuesday through Thursday if possible, as Mondays and Fridays tend to be even worse. When you do get through, have the notice right in front of you with the reference number ready. The agent will ask for it immediately to pull up your case. Also write down everything they tell you - which documents they need, where to send them, any specific formatting requirements. I made notes during the call and it saved me from having to call back later. The 30 days does seem tight at first, but once you know exactly what they want (which the phone call will clarify), gathering the documents and mailing them doesn't take long. You've got this!
I actually went through this exact same Form 9143 situation about 4 months ago, and I can definitely relate to the confusion and stress it causes! The letter really is vague and doesn't give you much to go on. Here's what I discovered after dealing with it: Form 9143 is basically the IRS saying "we need to double-check that you're really you" because something about your signature didn't match their records. This can happen for all sorts of reasons - maybe your signature has evolved over time, there was a technical issue with electronic filing, or their system just flagged it for manual review. The absolute most important thing is to respond within that 30-day window. Don't let the confusion paralyze you into missing the deadline! I'd strongly recommend calling the phone number on your notice as your first step. Yes, the wait times are awful (I was on hold for over 2 hours), but the agent can tell you exactly which form had the issue and what specific documents they need. In my case, they needed copies of my driver's license and Social Security card, plus a signed statement with several examples of my signature. I sent everything certified mail with tracking and included a detailed cover letter referencing the notice number and listing each enclosed document. It took about 5 weeks to get resolved, but once I sent the right stuff, it was pretty straightforward. The key is just getting clarity on exactly what they want rather than guessing!
This is such helpful advice! I'm dealing with Form 9143 right now and was really overwhelmed by how vague the notice is. It's reassuring to hear that this is actually pretty routine for the IRS, even though it feels scary when you first get the letter. Quick question - when you sent your signed statement with signature examples, did you have to get it notarized or anything like that? Or was it just a simple letter you wrote yourself? I want to make sure I'm not missing any formal requirements that could slow down the process. Also, did the IRS send you any kind of confirmation once they received your documents, or did you just have to wait to hear back? I'm planning to send everything certified mail like you suggested, but wondering if there's any way to know they actually got everything and are processing it.
I work with Michigan Treasury cases regularly and can help clarify what's happening with your reference #1-2360900214. The "Resolution Provided" status is definitely poorly worded - what it actually means is that they've completed their review of your First Response submission and have made an internal determination about your case. You're right that it doesn't mean everything is resolved from your perspective since you still don't know what they decided! The 2-4 week mail timeline is standard because Michigan Treasury sends all formal determinations via physical mail for legal documentation purposes. Based on your February 10th submission date, you should expect to receive their response between February 24th and March 10th. A few things to keep in mind: The fact that your status shows "Resolution Provided" rather than something like "Additional Information Required" is generally positive - it suggests they have what they need to move forward. I'd recommend waiting until at least the 3-week mark before calling 517-636-4486, as that's when their phone reps typically have more detailed status information available. Also, make sure your address is current in their system to avoid any mail delivery delays. The waiting is frustrating, but Michigan Treasury is actually pretty reliable about meeting their stated timeframes compared to other state agencies.
This is really helpful context from someone who works with these cases! The explanation about why they use physical mail for legal documentation makes sense, even though it's frustrating from a user experience standpoint. I feel a lot better knowing that "Resolution Provided" is actually a positive sign rather than just confusing bureaucratic language. I'll definitely wait until the 3-week mark before calling - sounds like that's the sweet spot where they have more info available but I'm not jumping the gun. Thanks for breaking down the timeline so clearly!
I'm going through the exact same thing right now with Michigan Treasury! Got the "Resolution Provided" status three days ago and have been refreshing the portal obsessively hoping for more details. It's so frustrating that they can tell you they've made a decision but won't just post it online instead of making you wait weeks for snail mail. Based on what everyone's saying here, it sounds like this is actually normal and the 2-4 week timeline is pretty reliable. I'm definitely going to try that tip about calling around the 3-week mark - seems like that's when they have more info available over the phone. At least knowing other people have been through this exact process and gotten their letters within the timeframe makes me feel less anxious about it. Thanks for posting this question - all the responses have been super helpful for understanding what this confusing status actually means!
Pro tip: check if you qualify for any additional credits like child care expenses or education credits. Might help offset some of that drop
thanks will look into that!
This is totally normal but I get why it's frustrating! The software was basically showing you a "fantasy refund" based on just one income. With $99k combined income, you're definitely hitting those phase-out ranges for EIC and possibly some Child Tax Credit reduction. The good news is $4k is still a solid refund - means you had decent withholding throughout the year. Next year consider adjusting your W-4s if you want less refund and more in your paychecks during the year.
Don't forget about the $10,000 SALT cap! If you already pay more than $10k in state income tax, then bunching property tax payments won't help since you're already at the limit. I learned this the hard way after prepaying a bunch of property taxes in December thinking I'd get a huge deduction, only to hit the SALT cap and get zero benefit for the extra payments. Now I just pay them when due.
This is exactly the kind of strategic tax planning that can make a real difference! You're absolutely right that property taxes are deductible when paid, not when assessed. One thing to consider beyond the SALT cap that others mentioned - make sure you're factoring in ALL your potential itemized deductions when deciding whether to bunch payments. Property taxes + mortgage interest + charitable donations + state income taxes (up to the $10k total SALT limit) might push you over the standard deduction threshold even if property taxes alone wouldn't. Also, regarding the delinquency strategy - while the math might work in theory, I'd be really careful about that approach. Late payments can affect your credit score, and some counties add additional fees beyond just the percentage penalty. Plus, if property values are rising in your area, you might want to maintain a good payment history in case you need to appeal your assessment in the future. Have you calculated what your total itemized deductions would be in both scenarios (bunching vs. regular payments)? That might help you decide if the strategy is worth the extra complexity.
Thanks for the comprehensive breakdown! You're absolutely right about considering ALL itemized deductions together. I hadn't thought about how charitable donations could factor into this strategy too. Your point about the delinquency risk is well taken - I was getting a bit too focused on the math and not thinking about the broader consequences. Credit score impacts alone probably aren't worth it, especially with interest rates where they are now. I'm going to sit down this weekend and actually calculate both scenarios with all my potential deductions included. Mortgage interest + property taxes + charitable giving might actually get me there without having to get too clever with payment timing. One quick follow-up question - do you know if there's any limit to how far in advance you can prepay property taxes and still claim the deduction? Like could I theoretically pay 2026's assessment in December 2025, or is there some reasonable limit the IRS expects?
Anastasia Kozlov
I'm currently dealing with this exact same issue and it's been incredibly stressful! My business partner and I formed a new LLC last month that was supposed to be owned by our existing S-corp, but I made the same mistake on the EIN application - listed us as individual owners instead of the parent company. Reading through all these responses has been such a relief. The detailed advice about Form 8832 and especially the importance of that written statement is exactly what I needed to hear. I was worried I'd have to dissolve the LLC and start over, but it sounds like this correction process is much more straightforward than I feared. One question I have - for those who successfully completed this correction, did you send any supporting documentation along with Form 8832 beyond the written statement? I have the operating agreement drafted that clearly shows the parent company as the sole member, and I'm wondering if including a copy would strengthen the submission or if it's unnecessary. Also, huge thanks to everyone who shared specific details about the timeline and what to include in the written statement. This thread has turned what felt like a major crisis into a manageable administrative task. Planning to get my Form 8832 submitted by the end of this week!
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ElectricDreamer
ā¢@Anastasia Kozlov - I totally understand that stress! I went through the exact same situation earlier this year and felt like I d'made some catastrophic mistake that would derail everything. Regarding supporting documentation, I actually did include a copy of my operating agreement with my Form 8832 submission, and I think it helped. While it s'not technically required, having that document clearly show the intended ownership structure seemed to make my case stronger. The IRS processor could see that my written statement matched what was actually documented in the LLC s'governing documents. If your operating agreement is already drafted and clearly shows the parent S-corp as the sole member, I d'definitely recommend including it. It s'basically additional evidence that supports your correction request and shows this isn t'just an afterthought - it s'how you genuinely intended to structure the business from the beginning. Just make sure everything is consistent - the ownership structure in your operating agreement should match exactly what you re'requesting in Form 8832 and describing in your written statement. Any discrepancies could raise questions or cause delays. You re'absolutely on the right track getting this submitted by end of week. Based on everyone s'timeline reports here, you should have this resolved well before it becomes a tax season issue. Good luck!
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Connor Gallagher
I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now and this thread has been a lifesaver! Just wanted to add one more data point for anyone going through this process. I submitted my Form 8832 about 3 weeks ago to correct the same mistake (listed individual owners instead of parent LLC ownership). I included a very detailed written statement covering all the points mentioned here - the specific SS-4 question that caused confusion, why the correction aligns with our actual business operations, and that we haven't conducted any significant business activity under the incorrect classification yet. One thing I learned from my CPA that might be helpful - if you're planning to make this correction, it's worth reviewing your state's annual report requirements now rather than waiting. Some states ask about ownership changes during the year, and having your federal Form 8832 acceptance letter ready will make that process much smoother. Still waiting to hear back from the IRS, but based on everyone's experiences here, I'm optimistic about the 6-8 week timeline. Will definitely update this thread once I get my acceptance letter in case it helps others who are going through the same process. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - knowing this is fixable and relatively common has reduced my stress level significantly!
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