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Update us when you find out what happened! I'm dealing with a continuation that's not showing up in searches either, so curious if it's the same issue.
Same here - having search issues with a recent termination filing.
Called PA about this exact issue last week. Turns out their online portal was having technical difficulties processing amendments filed between November 15-25. They're working on getting those filings properly indexed in their search system. You might want to mention that timeframe when you call.
Oh wow, that explains why I couldn't find mine either. Filed on November 22nd.
Yeah they said affected filings should start showing up in searches by end of this week.
One more thing - make sure you're filing in the right Florida county if there are any fixture filing components. Restaurant equipment that's attached to the building might need fixture filing treatment depending on how it's installed.
Exactly. Better to over-file than under-file when you're not sure about fixture classification.
Florida UCC filings have become a real pain point for our team this year. The name matching requirements are stricter than most other states we deal with. At least once you get it right the first time, amendments and continuations are pretty straightforward. Definitely use that SUNBIZ lookup before submitting anything. And if you're doing a lot of Florida deals, might be worth investing in automated document checking to catch these issues upfront.
How far in advance of the 5-year mark do you usually file continuations in Florida?
Update us when you figure this out! I'm dealing with a similar situation and curious how you resolve the name variation issue.
Will do. Probably going to try the automated verification approach first since it seems like the most efficient way to catch anything I missed.
Smart move. Manual checking is too error-prone when you're dealing with multiple name variations.
Just a thought - have you contacted the secured parties listed on those filings? Sometimes they can provide clarity on whether the filings are actually for the same debtor and what the current status is.
Plus it might give you insight into the borrower's payment history and relationship with other lenders.
True, but some lenders won't share that information due to confidentiality concerns.
For what it's worth, I've started using Certana.ai for all my UCC document prep now. Upload your borrower's charter docs and your draft UCC-1 and it immediately tells you if there are any name mismatches or formatting issues. Been using it for about 6 months and haven't had a single rejection since.
That sounds like exactly what I need. I'm going to check that out before I submit this filing.
Remember that UCC-1 filings are public record so make sure you're not including any confidential information in your collateral descriptions. Stick to what's necessary for identification purposes.
Good reminder. I've seen filings that included way too much detail about the borrower's business operations.
Balance is key - specific enough to be enforceable but not so detailed that you're broadcasting sensitive business information.
Jean Claude
One more thing to check - make sure you're filing the UCC1-203 in the right state. If the debtor moved or the collateral location changed, you might need to file in a different jurisdiction than the original UCC-1.
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Roger Romero
•Same state, same debtor location. But good reminder to double-check jurisdictional issues.
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Jean Claude
•Those cross-state UCC complications are the worst. Glad yours is straightforward location-wise.
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Charity Cohan
Update us when you get the UCC1-203 filed! These continuation deadline situations always make me nervous. There's usually a solution but the clock ticking makes everything stressful.
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Roger Romero
•Will do. Going to try the document checker suggestion and see if that catches whatever I'm missing.
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Josef Tearle
•Smart plan. Those automated checks are surprisingly good at finding formatting issues that humans miss.
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