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one thing nobody mentioned is you get the money back eventually!!! when you hit your FRA they recalculate your benefit and give you credit for all the months they took away. at least that's what the guy told my husband. doesn't help now but at least its not gone forever.

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That's actually really helpful to know! Makes me feel a bit better about the whole situation. Thank you!

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Just wanted to add that you should also check if your state has any additional considerations. Some states don't tax Social Security benefits, but they might treat that bonus differently for state tax purposes. Also, since you mentioned you're doing consulting work, make sure you're setting aside money for estimated quarterly taxes on that income - the IRS doesn't care about the SSA earnings test when it comes to tax obligations. You'll still owe taxes on both the bonus and consulting income regardless of any benefit reductions. Good luck navigating this - the timing rules are definitely frustrating but at least you're getting ahead of it now rather than being surprised later!

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Great point about the state tax implications! I hadn't even thought about that aspect. You're absolutely right about the quarterly taxes too - I've been setting aside money for the consulting work but I should probably adjust my estimates now that I know about this bonus. It's crazy how one unexpected payment can complicate so many different things at once. Thanks for the reminder about staying on top of the tax side while dealing with the SSA stuff!

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Thanks everyone for the advice! After weighing all options, I think I'm going to: 1. Use that Claimyr service to actually speak with someone at SSA about my specific situation 2. File for SS retirement now to cover the gap when my NJ disability ends 3. Accept that there will be a permanent reduction, but it's better than draining my 401k 4. When I return to work, let them withhold benefits as needed based on my earnings The clarification about how they adjust the benefit at FRA for withheld months was really helpful. Still not ideal, but seems like the best option in my situation. I'll also check with my employer about whether long-term disability might kick in after my short-term benefits end, and look into the unemployment suggestion too. Every bit helps during recovery!

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That sounds like a solid plan! You've clearly done your homework on this. One additional thing to consider - make sure to keep detailed records of your medical appointments and recovery progress. If your recovery takes longer than expected and you end up needing to apply for SSDI after all, having that documentation will be crucial for your case. Also, when you do speak with the SSA representative through Claimyr, ask them about the "do-over" rule (withdrawal of application). You have 12 months from when you first receive benefits to completely withdraw your application and pay back what you received, essentially getting a fresh start. It's rarely worth it financially, but good to know it exists as an option if your situation changes dramatically. Best of luck with your recovery! Taking care of your health is the most important thing right now.

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One more thing worth mentioning - if you're married or divorced after a long marriage, make sure you're looking at spousal benefit options too. Sometimes that can provide a higher benefit amount depending on your spouse's earnings record. The calculations get more complex, but it's definitely worth exploring all your options.

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Thanks - I'm widowed actually. Already checked into survivor benefits but my own record gives me more. Really appreciate all the helpful information everyone!

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I'm in a similar situation and have been researching this extensively! One thing I discovered that might help you is that the SSA website has a retirement estimator tool that can show you different scenarios. You can input various earnings amounts and see how they might affect your benefit calculation. Also, since you mentioned having zero years due to raising kids, you might want to look into whether any of those years qualify for "child care dropout years" - it's a provision that can exclude up to 3 years of low/zero earnings from your calculation if you were caring for a child under 16. Not everyone knows about this! The automatic recalculation that others mentioned is real - I've seen it happen for several people in my retirement planning group. Just keep good records of your earnings so you can verify the increases when they happen.

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Thank you so much for mentioning the child care dropout years! I had no idea that was even a thing. I definitely had periods when my kids were young where I wasn't working or working very little. How do I find out if I qualify for this provision? Is it something I need to apply for specifically or does SSA automatically consider it when calculating benefits? Also really appreciate the tip about the retirement estimator tool - I'll definitely check that out to run some scenarios with different part-time earning amounts.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I've taken notes on everything. I'm going to help my husband apply for retirement benefits about 3 months before his birthday in June, and I'll specifically ask about spousal benefits too. I'll also double-check about the Medicare continuation - sounds like that should continue, but I want to make sure there's no gap in coverage. I might try that Claimyr service since it seems impossible to get through to SSA otherwise. The peace of mind would be worth it to make sure everything transitions smoothly. I appreciate everyone's help and experiences! This community has been so much more helpful than my hours of waiting on hold.

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Just wanted to add a few key points that might help with your planning: 1. **Timing is crucial** - Apply exactly 3 months before his 62nd birthday in June. This ensures no gap in benefits and gives SSA time to process everything smoothly. 2. **Bring documentation** - When you apply (whether online or in person), have his SSI award letter, Medicare card, and your Social Security statement ready. This speeds up the process significantly. 3. **Consider waiting if possible** - While I understand you need the income, remember that taking retirement at 62 means a permanent reduction of about 25% compared to his full retirement age benefit. If his health allows and you can manage financially, even waiting a year or two could mean hundreds more per month for life. 4. **Medicare continuation is almost certain** - Since he qualified for Medicare through disability (not age), this should continue seamlessly. The 24-month waiting period he already completed won't reset. 5. **Get it in writing** - When you do speak with SSA, ask them to document in writing that his Medicare will continue during the transition. This can help if there are any computer glitches later. Good luck with everything! It sounds like you're being very proactive about this transition.

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I especially appreciate the tip about getting the Medicare continuation in writing - I never would have thought of that but it makes perfect sense given some of the horror stories I've heard. You're absolutely right about the timing being crucial. We've been going back and forth about whether he should wait beyond 62, but honestly with his health conditions and our current financial strain, I think we need to take the benefits when he's eligible. The peace of mind of having that extra income will be worth more to us than the higher amount later. The documentation checklist is great too - I'm going to make sure we have everything ready before we start the application process. Thank you for taking the time to lay all this out so clearly!

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So after talking with SSA directly (finally got through!), I can confirm what most of you have said - there is absolutely NO earnings limit after reaching FRA. The rep told me I can earn any amount in 2025 without affecting my benefits. She said my HR department was likely confusing my situation with the rules for people who claim before their FRA. Thanks everyone for your help! Such a relief to have this sorted out before I start my benefits.

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Glad you got official confirmation! It's always good to hear directly from SSA, even though the rule is very clear on this point. Enjoy your retirement and those last few months of work without any concerns about benefit reductions.

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sooo im turning 62 next month and want to start SS while still working part time. thats different from your situation right? i think i DO have an earnings limit??

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Yes, your situation is completely different. At 62, you're filing for early benefits (before FRA), so the earnings limit absolutely applies to you. For 2025, you can only earn $22,320 without penalty if you're collecting early benefits. Anything over that amount, and SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. You might want to calculate whether it makes financial sense to claim early while still working.

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@Naila Gordon is exactly right. Since you re'filing at 62 which (is before your FRA ,)you ll'definitely have the $22,320 earnings limit for 2025. Just to add - those withheld benefits aren t'lost forever though. Once you reach your FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit amount to give you credit for the months when benefits were withheld due to excess earnings. But while you re'under FRA and working, you ll'need to stay under that limit to avoid temporary benefit reductions.

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