After using that service I mentioned to reach SSA, they explained to me that my husband's PIA was the key number I needed to know. Once I had that, I could calculate 50% of it and compare to my own benefit. Has your husband ever received a Social Security statement that might show his PIA? That could save you some time.

I'm in a similar situation as a retired teacher dealing with WEP! One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all the different benefit amounts people mentioned to me. I listed my own WEP-reduced benefit, the estimated spousal benefit (50% of husband's PIA), and factored in GPO reductions where applicable. It made it much easier when I finally got through to SSA to have all the numbers organized. Also, if you do decide to visit your local office like Zainab mentioned, I'd recommend calling ahead to make an appointment - it saves a lot of waiting time. The staff there were much more knowledgeable about the teacher pension interactions than the phone representatives I spoke with.

I'm in a very similar situation and have been researching this extensively. Here's what I've learned that might help: The Medicare angle is HUGE - without 40 quarters, you'll pay around $505/month for Part A (over $6,000/year). That alone makes getting those 4 quarters worth it financially. For 2025, you need $1,740 in covered earnings per quarter, so about $7,000 total. You could potentially earn this in just a few months of part-time work. Regarding your ex-spouse benefits - you're already eligible since you were married 16 years, but GPO will likely reduce them significantly. However, having your own 40 quarters gives you options and Medicare eligibility regardless. I'd suggest: 1) Use the SSA calculators to estimate your exact GPO impact, 2) Consider the Medicare savings as the primary benefit, not Social Security payments, 3) Maybe look into seasonal work or consulting that you'd actually enjoy. The system is definitely confusing, but the Medicare piece makes it a clearer decision in my opinion.

As someone who went through a similar CSRS/Social Security situation, I'd strongly recommend focusing on the Medicare benefits rather than the Social Security payments. The $6,000+ annual savings on Medicare Part A premiums alone makes those 4 quarters worthwhile. I ended up taking a part-time job at a local library for about 6 months - earned just over the $7,000 needed and actually enjoyed the work. My Social Security benefit is minimal due to WEP, and GPO eliminated most of my spousal benefits, but having Medicare Part A premium-free has saved me thousands. One tip: You can create a my Social Security account online to see your current earnings record and get benefit estimates. This might give you a clearer picture before you decide whether to pursue those additional quarters.

To answer your question about WEP applying to disability: Yes, WEP applies to both Social Security retirement and disability benefits (SSDI). Unfortunately, there's no way to completely avoid the WEP reduction if you receive a non-covered pension and don't have 30 years of substantial earnings under Social Security. However, for your appeal, make sure they correctly applied the guarantee provision, which ensures your benefit won't be reduced by more than half of your pension amount. You should also verify they counted all your years of covered employment correctly, as sometimes earnings records have errors that affect the WEP calculation.

I've been dealing with SSA paperwork for years and found that creating your own personal glossary can be really helpful. I keep a simple document where I write down each acronym as I encounter it, along with the definition in my own words. It's saved me so much time! Also, when you're reviewing your denial letter, pay special attention to any calculations they show - sometimes they'll use multiple acronyms in one formula (like PIA = f(AIME) adjusted for WEP) and breaking it down step by step makes it much clearer. Don't feel bad about being confused - even some SSA employees I've spoken with have admitted the terminology is unnecessarily complex!

Thank you all for the helpful information! I'll definitely make sure my wife stays on SSDI until her Full Retirement Age rather than switching at 62. And we'll be super careful about documenting all her work hours and reporting everything properly during her trial work period. It sounds like the most important things are: 1) Keep good records, 2) Report all work activity to SSA right away, and 3) Understand that the trial work period rules continue as normal even after turning 62. I'll check out that Claimyr service too - anything to avoid days of busy signals when trying to clarify questions with SSA!

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation - my husband is 60 on SSDI and considering a trial work period. One thing I wanted to add that might help others: make sure to keep track of not just earnings but also hours worked, even if you're paid hourly below the SGA threshold. SSA sometimes looks at work capacity beyond just dollar amounts. Also, if your wife does decide to pursue the trial work period, consider starting with very part-time hours to test the waters gradually. The 9-month trial period doesn't have to be consecutive, so she can spread it out over several years if needed. Good luck to both of you - navigating SSA rules is tough but this community really helps clarify things!

Mason, I went through this exact situation 2 years ago when I retired at 63. The annual earnings limit applies to ALL income earned during the calendar year, regardless of when you start collecting benefits. However, there's good news - William Rivera mentioned the first-year retirement rule which can be a game-changer. If you completely stop working in August (no earnings whatsoever after that), you can receive full benefits for September through December even if your January-August income exceeded the annual limit. The key is making sure you have absolutely zero earnings after your retirement date - no consulting, no vacation payouts, nothing. I'd strongly recommend calling SSA to confirm this applies to your situation and get it documented. Also consider whether waiting until January 2026 might work better financially - you'd avoid the earnings test entirely and get slightly higher monthly benefits from delayed retirement credits.

Just wanted to add another perspective here - I'm a retired SSA field office manager and can confirm that the first-year retirement rule is legitimate and underutilized. However, be very careful about the documentation. When you call SSA to discuss this, ask them to put notes in your file about your retirement date and the application of the first-year rule. I've seen cases where different representatives gave conflicting information later, so having it documented upfront is crucial. Also, make sure your employer processes your final paycheck correctly and doesn't accidentally include any earnings in September or later months. Even a small amount can disqualify you from using this rule. The earnings test can be confusing, but with proper planning and documentation, you can navigate it successfully.