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One last point worth considering: If you're in good health and longevity runs in your family, the strategy of claiming survivor/ex-spouse benefits at FRA and switching to your own at 70 becomes even more valuable. The math generally works out that if you live beyond your early 80s, maximizing your own benefit by waiting until 70 provides the highest lifetime payout. Regardless of when you claim, make sure to file your application 3-4 months before you want benefits to begin. The SSA processing time has been running longer than usual lately.
Just want to echo what others have said about getting all three benefit amounts calculated - it's absolutely crucial for making the right decision. I went through something similar a few years ago and found that creating a simple spreadsheet helped me visualize the long-term impact of each strategy. One thing I'd add is to consider your health insurance situation too. If you're retiring at 65, you'll be eligible for Medicare, but if you're still working and have employer coverage, you might want to factor that into your timing decision. Sometimes the healthcare costs can influence whether it makes sense to retire exactly at 65 or adjust your timeline slightly. Also, since you mentioned your ex-husband earned significantly more than your late husband, definitely get his benefit amount calculated. That 50% of his benefit at your FRA could potentially be much higher than 100% of your late husband's benefit. Good luck with everything!
That's such a great point about the spreadsheet and health insurance! I hadn't even thought about how Medicare timing might factor into this decision. I do have good employer coverage right now, so that's definitely something to consider. And you're absolutely right about getting my ex-husband's benefit calculated - if he really did earn that much more, that 50% could be substantial. I'm starting to realize this is going to take some serious number-crunching, but at least now I know what questions to ask when I finally get through to SSA. Thanks for the practical advice!
Thanks for all this helpful information everyone! I spoke with my sister and we've decided that she's going to talk to the social worker at her dialysis center first thing tomorrow. She's also going to check with her HR department about exactly what kind of health coverage she has now and what her STD/LTD options look like. We now understand that switching to SSDI isn't an option at her age, but the information about Medicare's special provisions for kidney disease patients is a game-changer. I'm going to help her enroll in Part B right away to avoid any future penalties.
That sounds like an excellent plan. One more tip: make sure she gets the Medicare coverage to start before ending her employment if possible. There's a special form her employer needs to fill out (CMS-L564) to verify she had creditable coverage through work, which will help her avoid any Part B penalties. Wishing her all the best with her health challenges.
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might help your sister - since she's still working full-time at 72, she should also look into whether her employer offers an Employee Assistance Program (EAP). Many companies provide free counseling and benefits navigation services through EAPs that can help sort through all these complex Medicare and insurance decisions. Also, if she decides to retire, she might want to time it strategically around her dialysis schedule to minimize any gaps in coverage. The transition period can be tricky, but it sounds like you're helping her think through all the right questions. Good luck with everything!
That's a really smart suggestion about the EAP! I hadn't thought about that resource at all. Since she's been with her current employer for several years, they might have benefits counselors who specialize in helping employees navigate retirement and healthcare transitions. And you're absolutely right about timing the retirement around her dialysis schedule - she gets treatments three times a week, so having any gap in coverage during that transition could be really problematic. Thanks for thinking of those practical details!
Just to add something important - you should BOTH apply for benefits right away even if you're uncertain about eligibility. Here's why: 1. If denied, you preserve your filing date for appeals 2. Sometimes the rules have exceptions you might not know about 3. The SSA representative might identify other programs you qualify for And regarding your daughter's Crohn's - medical documentation is CRUCIAL. Get detailed statements from ALL her doctors about how it limits her ability to function and work. For Disabled Adult Child benefits, they need to see that her condition prevents substantial gainful activity.
This makes a lot of sense - thank you. I'll go ahead and apply for myself too, even though it sounds like I might not qualify yet. And I'll start gathering all her medical documentation. Her gastroenterologist has been treating her for years and can definitely document how it affects her daily functioning.
I'm so deeply sorry for your loss. Losing your husband so young is devastating, and trying to navigate all these financial questions while grieving is overwhelming. A few additional thoughts that might help: 1. **Timing is critical** - Apply for your daughter's survivor benefits ASAP. Benefits can be retroactive to your application date, but not before that. 2. **Document everything** - For your daughter's potential Disabled Adult Child claim, start gathering comprehensive medical records NOW. Include not just diagnosis dates but detailed functional assessments from her doctors about how Crohn's affects her daily activities, energy levels, and ability to maintain consistent work/school attendance. 3. **Consider a disability attorney** - If your daughter's Crohn's case is borderline, a disability attorney who specializes in DAC claims might be worth consulting. Many work on contingency. 4. **Don't forget smaller benefits** - Beyond the $255 death benefit, check if your husband had any veterans benefits, union survivor benefits, or employer life insurance you haven't claimed yet. 5. **State programs** - While waiting for federal benefits decisions, look into state assistance programs for food, utilities, or medical coverage that might bridge the gap. The people here have given you excellent advice. You're not alone in this, and there are programs designed to help families in exactly your situation. Take it one step at a time.
Thank you so much, Zane. Your comprehensive list is exactly what I needed to see laid out clearly. I've been feeling so scattered trying to figure out where to start, but you're right - I need to take this one step at a time. I'm going to start gathering her medical records first thing tomorrow and then get both our applications submitted. The idea about consulting a disability attorney for her case makes sense too - her Crohn's symptoms can be unpredictable, some days she's fine and others she's really struggling, so documenting that variability will be important. I hadn't thought about checking for union benefits or other employer programs either. My husband worked for the same company for 15 years, so there might be something I'm missing there. Everyone in this thread has been so helpful during what feels like the worst time of my life. Thank you all for taking the time to share your knowledge and experiences.
my bad about the wrong info i think my sister wasnt remarried when her ex died thats probably why she could get his ss
I work as a benefits counselor and see cases like yours frequently. While you unfortunately can't claim survivor benefits from your ex-husband due to remarrying before age 60, don't overlook that you may have other valuable options. Since you're still working at 64, you're in a good position to potentially maximize your retirement planning. Consider: 1) Your own delayed retirement credits if you wait past Full Retirement Age, 2) Spousal benefits on your current husband's record (could be up to 50% of his benefit), and 3) The "restricted application" strategy if applicable. Also, when you meet with SSA, bring both your and your current husband's earnings statements so they can run comprehensive calculations. Sometimes the numbers surprise people in a good way!
Amara Okonkwo
To tie everything together for your planning purposes: 1. Apply about 3 months before March 2025 (so December 2024 or January 2025) 2. Specifically select March 2025 as your benefit start month on the application 3. Understand your first payment would normally arrive in April 2025, but processing delays might push this to May or even June 4. Budget accordingly, knowing there could be a gap between when you expect payments to start and when they actually begin 5. Remember you'll get back payments for any months you're eligible but haven't received payment for yet 6. Your $68K earnings won't reduce your benefits, but will likely make a portion of your benefits taxable Does this help clarify the timing for your situation?
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Yes, this is incredibly helpful! I'm going to mark my calendar to start the application process in December 2024. I'll make sure to have extra savings to cover any potential delays in receiving my first payment. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain all these details - it's exactly the information I needed to plan properly for 2025. Thank you all!
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Omar Fawaz
As someone who just went through this process myself, I wanted to add a few practical tips that helped me navigate the application: 1. Create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - you can check your earnings record and get benefit estimates before applying. This helps you spot any errors in your work history early. 2. When you do apply in December/January, consider doing it on a weekday morning when their systems tend to be more responsive. I had multiple timeouts trying to apply on a Sunday evening. 3. If you're married, make sure you understand spousal benefit options too. Even if your spouse isn't ready to claim, there might be strategies worth considering. 4. Keep copies of everything you submit. The SSA has been known to ask for the same documents multiple times during processing. The advice about budgeting for delays is spot-on. I ended up needing an extra 10 weeks of savings beyond what I originally planned for. Better to be prepared than scrambling to cover bills while waiting for that first payment!
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Camila Castillo
•This is really practical advice! I hadn't thought about creating the my Social Security account ahead of time - that's a great tip to check my earnings record first. I'm definitely going to do that soon to make sure everything looks accurate before I apply. The timing tip about weekday mornings is smart too. I work from home so I can be flexible about when I submit the application. And you're absolutely right about keeping copies - I've learned from other government processes that having your own records is essential. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience with the timeline. Hearing that you needed 10 extra weeks really drives home the importance of having a financial cushion ready. I'm going to plan for at least 3 months of coverage beyond my expected start date just to be safe.
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