Thanks everyone! This has been incredibly helpful. Just to make sure I've got it straight: 1. For Jan-Aug 2025 (before my FRA month), I'm subject to the higher annual limit (~$60k) 2. From September 2025 onward, no earnings limit applies at all 3. If I somehow exceed the limit in those first 8 months, they'll withhold some benefits but eventually adjust my payment amount at FRA Since I'll probably earn around $65-70k by August, I might be slightly over the limit. I'll have to decide if I want to try to stay under it or just accept a small reduction for a month or two. Really appreciate all the insights!

Just want to add one more consideration - make sure your employer knows you're planning to collect Social Security while still working. Some companies have policies about this, and you'll want to coordinate with HR about tax withholdings since you'll have both W-2 income and Social Security benefits. The tax situation can get a bit complex when you have both income sources, especially if your combined income pushes you into the range where SS benefits become taxable. Might be worth running the numbers with your financial advisor to see if you need to adjust your withholdings to avoid a surprise tax bill next April!

my cousin told me the SSA website has a calculator for this stuff but i couldn't find it lol

I'm in a similar situation and found this thread really helpful! One thing I wanted to add - when you do contact SSA to confirm your earnings situation, make sure to ask them about how they'll handle your September benefit start date. Since you're retiring in September but your FRA isn't until December, they might need to adjust your first few benefit payments to account for the fact that you're technically still in your "FRA year" until December. Also, regarding the severance package - that usually doesn't count as "earnings" for the Social Security earnings test since it's not compensation for current work. But definitely confirm this when you speak with them, especially if any part of the severance is structured as consulting payments or continuation of salary. The peace of mind from getting official confirmation is totally worth the effort to reach them!

I work as a benefits counselor and see this type of error frequently. The key thing to understand is that your sister was likely receiving what's called "dually entitled" benefits - her own retirement benefit plus a divorced spouse supplement to bring her up to 50% of her ex-husband's benefit amount. When he died, she should have transitioned to divorced survivor benefits (up to 100% of his amount), which would normally be HIGHER than what she was getting before. The fact that her payment went DOWN is a major red flag. The overpayment notice for January-June (before his death) suggests their system incorrectly flagged her legitimate divorced spouse benefits as improper survivor benefits. This is a coding error where the system applied the wrong benefit type retroactively. Here's my recommendation: She needs to file Form SSA-561 (Request for Reconsideration) AND Form SSA-632 (Request for Waiver) simultaneously. The waiver can stop collection while the appeal is processed. When she goes to the office, she should specifically ask for a "Technical Expert familiar with dual entitlement cases" and request a complete benefit computation worksheet showing how they calculated both the overpayment and her new benefit amount. Don't let her sign anything agreeing to repay until this is fully reviewed. This sounds like a textbook systems error that should be correctable once the right person looks at her case.

I'm so sorry your sister is dealing with this stressful situation! Based on what you've described, this sounds like a classic system error that unfortunately happens when someone transitions from divorced spouse benefits to divorced survivor benefits. The timing is the biggest clue - an overpayment notice for January-June when he didn't pass away until July makes no sense unless their computer system incorrectly flagged her legitimate divorced spouse benefits as improper survivor benefits retroactively. Here's what I'd recommend she do immediately: 1. **Don't panic or agree to any repayment** until this is fully investigated 2. **File both Form SSA-561 (appeal) and Form SSA-632 (waiver request)** - the waiver can stop collection during the appeal 3. **Request a Technical Expert** who specializes in dual entitlement/survivor benefit cases when she visits the office 4. **Ask for a detailed benefit computation worksheet** showing exactly how they calculated both the overpayment and her new reduced benefit amount The fact that her survivor benefits are LESS than her previous benefits is another major red flag - survivor benefits are typically higher (up to 100% of the deceased's benefit vs 50% for divorced spouse benefits). This is absolutely fixable, but she needs to be persistent and get to someone who truly understands these complex cases. Document everything and don't let them rush her into accepting their initial determination. You're being a wonderful advocate for her!

I'm so sorry for your loss, Isabella. Losing a parent is incredibly difficult, and having to navigate all these bureaucratic details while grieving makes it even harder. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you're getting solid advice. Just wanted to add a couple of practical tips that might help your mom through this process: - When she calls SSA, have her keep a log of who she speaks with, the date/time, and what was discussed. Sometimes information gets lost between calls. - If she's comfortable with it, consider being on the call with her for moral support. SSA allows this if she gives verbal permission. - The local SSA office might be less busy than the national phone line. You could try walking in early in the morning if phone calls aren't working. Your mom is lucky to have you helping her through this. Take care of yourself too during this difficult time. The financial stress will ease once you get through the application process, but the emotional support she needs from you is just as important.

I'm deeply sorry for the loss of your father, Isabella. Having gone through this process when my own parent passed, I understand how overwhelming it can be during such a difficult time. The advice you've received here is excellent. I'd like to emphasize a few key points: 1) Timing is critical - survivor benefits can only be backdated 6 months, so don't delay the application even if you're still gathering documents. 2) When your mom calls, she should specifically ask to "report a death and apply for survivor benefits" - this ensures she gets transferred to the right department immediately. 3) Consider bringing a trusted family member or friend to any in-person appointment for emotional support and to help remember important details. 4) If the phone wait times are impossible, many people have success visiting their local SSA field office first thing in the morning when they open. You can find the nearest office on the SSA website. Your mother will likely receive your father's full $2,400 benefit since she's over full retirement age, which should provide some financial relief during this transition. You're being such a wonderful support to your mother during this time. Take care of yourself too - grief is exhausting, and navigating bureaucracy while mourning adds another layer of stress.

Another Texas teacher here. One important thing nobody's mentioned: If you keep working in a SS-covered job AFTER starting your TRS pension, those earnings are still subject to WEP, but they're calculated differently. In my case, I retired from teaching but work part-time as a consultant. That income still counts toward Social Security, and if I work enough years, it could eventually help reduce my WEP penalty further. The most accurate way to get your personal estimate is to contact SSA directly. I know it's frustrating with the wait times, but you need someone to calculate your specific situation. I used Claimyr.com to bypass the hold times and got connected to an agent in under 5 minutes. Worth every penny because I was able to get exact figures for my planning.

I'm a newer member here but wanted to share what I learned going through this process recently. The key thing that helped me was getting my actual earnings record from SSA (at my.ssa.gov) and identifying which years qualified as "substantial earnings." What really surprised me was that the WEP reduction isn't just a flat percentage - it's calculated using a different formula for the first "bend point" of your Social Security benefit calculation. With your 20+ years in the private sector, you're likely looking at a reduction somewhere between 25-45% depending on your specific earnings history. One piece of advice: don't just rely on online calculators. I thought I had it figured out, but when I finally got through to an SSA specialist (took 3 tries), my actual projected reduction was different than what the calculators showed. The human factor really matters with these complex cases. Also, keep all your documentation organized - you'll need your TRS benefit estimate and your complete SS earnings record when you apply. The more prepared you are, the smoother the process will be.