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I'm new to this community but wanted to share some information that might help with your situation. I work as a benefits counselor, and I see families dealing with this exact issue regularly. Unfortunately, what everyone has confirmed is correct - your 12-year-old's benefit won't increase when your older child ages out. The Social Security system calculates each child's auxiliary benefit individually (typically 50% of your PIA), and these don't get redistributed when a sibling becomes ineligible. What I always recommend to families in your situation is to create a "transition timeline" starting about 8-10 months before the anticipated change. This gives you time to gradually adjust spending, explore supplemental income options, and research local assistance programs. Many states have specific transition assistance for families experiencing benefit reductions due to aging out. I'd also suggest documenting everything when you do get through to SSA - ask for written confirmation of benefit amounts and termination dates. Sometimes there are small delays or extensions (like the high school provision others mentioned) that can provide a few extra months of breathing room. The system definitely has gaps that hurt families like yours who are still supporting the same household. Planning ahead is really your best strategy for managing this transition successfully.
Thank you so much for the professional perspective and practical advice! As someone new to this discussion, it's incredibly helpful to hear from a benefits counselor who sees these situations regularly. The idea of creating a "transition timeline" 8-10 months ahead is brilliant - that gives us much more time to adjust than the 6-month suggestions others have made. I hadn't thought about exploring supplemental income options or researching state-specific transition assistance programs either. That opens up some possibilities I wasn't aware of. The tip about documenting everything and getting written confirmation when I do reach SSA is really smart too - I can see how having that official documentation could prevent confusion later. Even though this system seems designed to create these difficult cliff effects for families, having a structured approach to managing the transition makes it feel much less overwhelming. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your professional expertise with someone just starting to navigate this process!
I'm new to this community but wanted to add my perspective as someone who just went through this exact situation with my family. My oldest daughter aged out last month at 18, and my younger son's benefits stayed exactly the same - no increase at all. It was really disappointing because like you, we were hoping that money would continue to help with our household expenses. What I found most helpful was actually calling SSA about 4 months before my daughter's 18th birthday to get everything documented and understand the exact timeline. The representative explained that each child's benefit is calculated individually (50% of my PIA in our case), and when one child becomes ineligible, that portion just stops - it doesn't get redistributed to other family members within the family maximum. I'd strongly recommend getting your benefit verification letter online through your my Social Security account if you haven't already. Seeing the actual numbers really helped me start planning our budget transition. We started cutting back on non-essential expenses about 6 months early, which made the actual change much less shocking when it happened. Also, definitely look into that high school extension for your 15-year-old that others mentioned. Even if they graduate right around their 18th birthday, there might be a small window where you could benefit from those extra payments. I know it's frustrating that the system works this way, but having a clear plan forward really does help with the stress of uncertainty.
Just wanted to add my recent experience - I applied for Social Security benefits in January 2025 for my July FRA, so about 6 months early. The system accepted my application without any issues and I received confirmation that it's being held for processing at the appropriate time. I know some people have mentioned concerns about applying too early, but the SSA representative I spoke with said they prefer having applications in the system early rather than rushing to process last-minute submissions. This gives them time to identify and resolve any potential issues before your benefit start date. My advice: don't stress too much about the exact timing as long as you're in that 3-6 month window. The most important thing is making sure all your information is accurate when you submit. Good luck with your application!
That's reassuring to hear! I was worried about applying too early, but it sounds like 6 months worked out fine for you. I think I'll stick with my plan to apply in early May (4 months before September). It's good to know they'd rather have the application early and can hold it for processing rather than dealing with a rush of last-minute applications. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I just went through this process myself last year! Applied exactly 4 months before my FRA in October 2024, and everything went smoothly. The online application took about 30 minutes to complete, and I received my first payment right on schedule. A few things that helped me: - I created a checklist of all my personal info beforehand (SSN, previous addresses for last 5 years, employer info, etc.) - Made sure my earnings record was accurate by reviewing it on mySocialSecurity first - Applied on a weekday morning when the system tends to be less busy - Kept screenshots of every confirmation page The 4-month timing worked perfectly - not too early to cause issues, but gave plenty of buffer time in case there were any problems to resolve. Since you're planning for September and your birthday is early in the month, I'd definitely recommend applying by early May. Better to have everything processed and ready than to stress about timing!
One important point for everyone following this discussion - while the Social Security Fairness Act would eliminate WEP/GPO for domestic public employees, international pension issues are typically governed by bilateral Social Security agreements (totalization agreements). These agreements are negotiated country-by-country and have their own unique provisions. If you have work history in multiple countries, it's essential to understand both the general WEP rules and the specific provisions of any applicable totalization agreement. These agreements help determine: 1. Whether you can combine work credits from both countries to qualify for benefits 2. How benefits are calculated when you have split work histories 3. Which country's benefits you're eligible to receive The US-UK agreement helps prevent double taxation and allows for totalizing credits, but it doesn't completely eliminate WEP reductions.
This is really helpful information, thank you. I think I need to specifically ask about the US-UK totalization agreement when I finally get through to someone at SSA. Do you know if there's a specific department or specialist at SSA that handles international cases?
When you call SSA, ask to speak with someone in the Office of International Operations (OIO). They handle cases involving foreign pensions and totalization agreements. You can also mention that your case involves the US-UK totalization agreement specifically - this should help them route you to the right specialist. I had a similar situation with a Canadian pension and it took three transfers, but I finally got someone who understood the international agreements. Don't give up!
I'm in a similar boat with a pension from Australia! Been dealing with WEP reductions for 3 years now and it's so frustrating. From what I've researched, the Social Security Fairness Act unfortunately won't help us with foreign pensions - it's really focused on US government workers like teachers and police officers who didn't pay into Social Security during their government service. The international pension situation is handled under totally different rules through those totalization agreements everyone's mentioning. I've been told by multiple people that we're basically stuck with WEP unless we can somehow get to 30 years of substantial US earnings (which seems impossible for most of us who worked abroad). @Andre Laurent thanks for mentioning the Office of International Operations - I didn't know there was a specific department for this! Going to try calling and asking for OIO directly instead of getting bounced around to regular customer service.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Australian pension! It's somewhat comforting to know I'm not alone in this frustrating situation, though I wish none of us had to deal with it. The fact that we paid into both systems in good faith and now get penalized feels so unfair. I'm definitely going to try calling and specifically asking for the Office of International Operations like @Andre Laurent suggested. Hopefully they ll'have more specific knowledge about the US-UK agreement. Have you had any luck getting through to OIO yet, or are you still trying to reach them?
I'm dealing with something similar but with a pension from Canada. Been getting WEP reductions for about 5 years now and like you said, it's incredibly frustrating! The whole system seems designed to penalize people who worked internationally and contributed to multiple systems in good faith. I actually tried calling SSA last month asking specifically for the Office of International Operations after seeing it mentioned in some forums, and it did help! They were able to transfer me to someone who actually understood totalization agreements instead of just reading generic WEP information from a script. Still didn't get the answer I was hoping for (no magical loophole to eliminate my reduction), but at least I got clear information about my specific situation. @LilMama23 definitely try asking for OIO - even if the news isn't great, it's better to get accurate information from someone who knows international cases rather than getting the runaround from regular customer service. Good luck!
As someone who works with disability cases, I want to emphasize that your sister should definitely pursue this now rather than assuming she has to wait until 62. The disabled divorced spouse benefit is a real provision that many people (including some SSA representatives) aren't familiar with. Since both she and her ex-husband are receiving disability benefits, the calculation can be tricky, but she may be entitled to the difference between her current SSDI amount and 50% of her ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) - not his reduced disability amount, but what his full retirement benefit would be at his full retirement age. When she calls, she should specifically mention she's asking about "disabled divorced spouse benefits under Section 202(b)(4) of the Social Security Act" - using that specific legal reference might help get her to someone who knows these rules. The fact that they were married 20 years and divorced 12 years ago puts her in a strong position eligibility-wise. Also, don't let one "no" discourage you - these cases sometimes require persistence and speaking with multiple representatives to find one who understands the specialized rules for disabled divorced spouses.
This is incredibly detailed and helpful information! Thank you for providing the specific legal reference - "Section 202(b)(4) of the Social Security Act." That's exactly the kind of specific language that should help her get to the right person who actually knows these specialized rules. I'm writing all of this down for her. The point about not giving up after one "no" is so important too - it sounds like persistence might be key here. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain the PIA calculation difference as well!
I just wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar with my brother last year. He was 58, on SSDI for 4 years, and his ex-wife had just started receiving her own disability benefits. Initially, the SSA representative told him he'd have to wait until 62, but after we pushed back and specifically asked about disabled divorced spouse benefits, they connected us with a technical expert who confirmed he WAS eligible for additional benefits immediately. The key was getting to someone who actually understood these specialized rules. It took three phone calls and about 6 weeks to get it sorted out, but he ended up getting an additional $280/month retroactive to when his ex-wife first became eligible for benefits. Your sister's situation sounds even stronger since they were married for 20 years (vs my brother's 12 years). Definitely have her mention the specific legal provision that Zoey referenced - that really seemed to help get us to the right person. And don't give up if the first representative says no!
Thais Soares
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I've learned there's no "magic month" to file that increases benefits, but I should apply now for March benefits to give SSA enough processing time. I'm going to check my earnings record first, then submit my application. I appreciate the tip about Claimyr too - might use that if I run into problems reaching someone at SSA. I'll update once I get everything submitted!
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Axel Bourke
•Good plan! One last tip - after you apply, you can check the status of your application through your my Social Security account. It's much faster than calling. Best of luck with your application and your recovery from the knee replacements!
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Ella Russell
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your decision-making process. Since you mentioned being in a tough financial spot, you might want to look into whether your state offers any additional assistance programs that could bridge the gap between when your temporary disability ends and when your Social Security payments begin. Some states have emergency assistance programs or food assistance that can help during transitions like this. Also, if your wife isn't already working, she might want to consider part-time employment to help with the financial pressure while you're waiting for benefits to start. The stress of financial uncertainty can really impact your recovery from surgery, so having multiple backup plans in place might give you both some peace of mind during this transition period.
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Yuki Tanaka
•That's really thoughtful advice about looking into state assistance programs. I hadn't considered that there might be emergency help available during the transition period. My wife has been doing some part-time work from home, but we could probably explore more options there too. You're absolutely right that the financial stress isn't helping my recovery - I've been losing sleep worrying about the gap between February and March. I'll look into what our state offers for emergency assistance. Thanks for thinking of the practical side of things!
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