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Giovanni, I'm so sorry for your loss and the frustration you must be feeling about missing out on these benefits for so long. You're absolutely not alone - this happens to far too many people. One thing I want to emphasize that's been touched on but bears repeating: even though you'll face earnings test reductions now, filing for survivor benefits at 63 while working is often still the right financial move. Here's why: 1) The survivor benefit amount is based on what your husband would have received at his full retirement age, not reduced for early claiming like your own benefit would be 2) Even with earnings test withholding, you're establishing your claim and will get credit for those withheld amounts later 3) Most importantly, this allows your own retirement benefit to keep growing with delayed retirement credits until age 70 I'd also suggest asking your SSA representative to run projections showing your total lifetime benefits under different scenarios - taking survivor benefits now vs. waiting, when to potentially switch to your own benefit, etc. Having those numbers in black and white can help you make the best decision. The system really should do better at notifying people about benefits they're eligible for. Your story will hopefully help others who might be in similar situations. Best of luck with your appointment!

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Carmen, this is such a comprehensive summary of why filing now makes sense even with the earnings test! I really appreciate how you've laid out the three key reasons - especially the point about survivor benefits being based on full retirement age amounts rather than reduced early benefits. That's a crucial distinction I wasn't fully grasping before. The suggestion about asking for lifetime benefit projections is brilliant too. Having those specific numbers for different scenarios will make the decision so much clearer. I'm definitely going to request that analysis at my appointment. It's reassuring to hear that even with my current income situation, filing now is likely still the right move financially. After missing out on so many years, I was worried I might be making another mistake by applying while still working full-time. But your explanation about establishing the claim and getting credit for withheld amounts later really helps put my mind at ease. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed advice - it means a lot to have this community's support during what's been a pretty overwhelming process of learning about all these options!

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Giovanni, I'm so sorry for your loss and what you've been going through. Your situation really highlights how broken the notification system is - it's unconscionable that SSA doesn't proactively reach out to people about benefits they're entitled to. I wanted to add one more strategy consideration that might be relevant: since you're planning to work until at least 67, you might want to calculate whether it makes sense to delay applying for survivor benefits until you reach your full retirement age (when the earnings test disappears entirely). At that point, you'd get 100% of your survivor benefit with no earnings restrictions, and you could still let your own retirement benefit grow until 70 if that would be higher. The trade-off is losing the partial payments you'd get now (after earnings test reductions) versus waiting for full payments in a few years. Given that you've already missed 11 years, waiting another 4 years might actually maximize your lifetime benefits - especially since you're earning $85k which would significantly reduce your current payments anyway. Definitely ask your SSA rep to run the numbers both ways: applying now with earnings test vs. waiting until FRA. The math might surprise you! Also, document everything at your appointment and don't be afraid to ask for a second opinion or supervisor if anything seems unclear. You've waited this long - make sure you get it right going forward.

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Ayla, this is a really interesting perspective that I hadn't fully considered! You raise a compelling point about potentially waiting until FRA when the earnings test disappears completely. Given my $85k salary, the current earnings test reduction would be quite substantial - around $31k annually as someone calculated earlier. The idea of waiting 4 more years for full survivor benefits with no earnings restrictions versus getting reduced payments now is definitely worth exploring. Especially since I've already missed 11 years, what's another 4 if it means significantly higher lifetime benefits? I'm definitely going to ask my SSA representative to run projections for both scenarios - applying now with earnings test reductions versus waiting until my FRA at 67. You're right that the math might surprise me, and I want to make sure I'm making the most informed decision possible after already missing out on so much. This community has been incredible in helping me think through all these angles. I feel like I'm going into my appointment much better prepared thanks to everyone's insights and suggestions!

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Coming back to your original question: In Iowa specifically, there are no state-specific rules that would make POA arrangements affect Social Security or Medicare differently than federal guidelines. The same federal rules apply in all states. As long as your father's own income and resources haven't changed, his benefits should remain the same regardless of the POA arrangement.

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Thank you! That's exactly what I needed to know. I appreciate everyone's help with this.

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Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful - if your dad's memory is getting worse, you might want to consider setting up automatic bill pay for his essential expenses (utilities, Medicare premiums, etc.) through his bank account. This can help ensure nothing gets missed while you're managing his finances under the POA. Most banks can set this up easily and it gives you one less thing to worry about each month. Also, if he hasn't already, make sure he has you listed as an authorized person on his Medicare account so you can help with any issues that come up with his coverage.

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I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Born in July 1955 and planning to apply for benefits next year. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - it sounds like the consensus is clear: apply in March/April 2025 but specify July 2025 as the benefit start month. I was getting confused by the payment timing too, thinking that receiving my first payment in August meant I was somehow losing out on delayed retirement credits. But it makes perfect sense that the payment schedule is just administrative and doesn't affect the benefit calculation. Thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences - especially those who went through this recently with similar birth dates. It's so reassuring to hear real-world examples of people who did this successfully. I feel much more confident about the process now and know I won't leave any money on the table by waiting the full 70 years!

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I'm so glad this discussion has been helpful for you! It's amazing how many of us July 1955 babies are going through this exact same situation right now. I was in the same boat a few months ago, completely stressed about getting the timing wrong and accidentally shortchanging myself on benefits. What really helped me was writing down the key points from everyone's advice: 1) Apply in March/April 2025, 2) Specify July 2025 as benefit start month, 3) First payment arrives in August 2025 at full delayed retirement credit rate, and 4) The one-month payment delay is just administrative - it doesn't reduce your benefits at all. Having that clear timeline written out made me feel so much more confident. You've definitely got this! The hardest part is just understanding the process, and it sounds like you've got that figured out now.

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I'm a former SSA employee and can confirm everything everyone has shared here is absolutely correct! The key point that often confuses people is that delayed retirement credits (DRCs) stop accumulating the month you turn 70 - there's no benefit to waiting beyond that point. For someone born in July 1955, selecting July 2025 as your benefit start month gives you the maximum DRCs because you'll have waited exactly until age 70. The payment arriving in August is just SSA's standard processing - benefits are always paid the month after the month they're for. I always advised people to apply 3-4 months early to avoid any processing delays. One additional tip: when you apply online, you can actually preview your estimated benefit amount before submitting, which helps confirm you're getting the full delayed retirement credit calculation. Don't stress about this - you're asking the right questions and the consensus here is spot on!

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I'm dealing with a similar WEP situation and it's incredibly frustrating! I'm a retired teacher receiving a pension, and when I tried to apply for spousal benefits online last month, I got the same error messages. What's particularly annoying is that the SSA website makes it sound like ALL spousal benefit applications can be done online now, but they don't mention anywhere that WEP cases are excluded. I ended up having to schedule an appointment for February 14th, which felt like forever to wait. One thing that helped me was contacting my congressman's office - they have caseworkers who can sometimes expedite SSA appointments for constituents. It might be worth a try if you're really in a bind financially. Good luck with your March appointment!

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That's a really helpful suggestion about contacting your congressman's office! I never thought about that option. How exactly did you reach out to them - did you call their local office or use their website? And did they actually help speed up your appointment, or just provide general assistance? I'm definitely willing to try this if it might help me get seen sooner than March 18th.

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I'm in a very similar situation as a retired federal employee with CSRS pension - tried to apply for spousal benefits online and hit the same wall due to WEP. The frustrating part is there's absolutely no clear warning on the SSA website that WEP cases can't be processed online. I wasted hours trying different approaches before finally giving up and scheduling an appointment. One tip that might help while you're waiting: if you haven't already, try calling the SSA national number (1-800-772-1213) early in the morning (right at 8am) and ask to speak with a claims specialist about establishing a "protective filing date" for your spousal benefits application. Even if they can't process your full application over the phone, getting that protective filing date established could ensure your benefits start from when you first attempted to apply, not from your eventual appointment date. I was able to get this done after about 45 minutes on hold, and it gave me some peace of mind about the timing. The whole system really needs to be modernized to handle these common pension offset situations online. It's 2025 - there's no excuse for forcing people to wait months for something that should be straightforward!

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! I'm 66 and 8 months old, so almost at my FRA, and I've been researching this exact strategy. From everything I've read, you are absolutely correct that you should be able to file for widow's benefits while letting your own retirement grow until 70. One thing that might help when they call you back is to be very clear about the terminology. I've seen advice to say something like "I want to file an application that is restricted in scope to widow's benefits only" rather than just saying "restricted application" since that phrase sometimes confuses reps who think of the old spousal benefit restrictions. Also, if it helps, I found a reference in the Social Security Handbook (section 1724) that specifically talks about how you can choose to receive only one type of benefit when you're eligible for multiple types. The key is that you haven't filed for your own retirement yet. Don't let them discourage you - this is a legitimate strategy that can save you thousands of dollars over the years. I'm planning to use your experience as a learning opportunity for when I file in a few months!

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Thank you for that helpful reference to Social Security Handbook section 1724! I really appreciate you sharing that specific citation - having concrete documentation to reference will be invaluable when I speak with them. The wording you suggested about "restricted in scope to widow's benefits only" is also excellent - I can see how that would be clearer than just saying "restricted application." It's so frustrating that we have to become experts on these rules just to get what we're entitled to, but I'm grateful for communities like this where people share their knowledge and experiences. Good luck with your application in a few months! Feel free to update us on how it goes - your experience could help others in similar situations.

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I'm a newcomer here but had to chime in because I just went through this EXACT same ordeal! I'm 67 and filed my restricted application for widow's benefits three months ago, but only after being told "no" by THREE different SSA reps who clearly didn't understand the rules. What finally worked for me was calling and immediately saying: "I need to speak with someone who is familiar with restricted applications for survivor benefits under current Social Security law." When they tried to transfer me to a general rep, I politely insisted on speaking with a Technical Expert or supervisor. The key phrase that got results was: "I am eligible for both widow's benefits and my own retirement benefits, but I am filing an application restricted in scope to ONLY my widow's benefits. I am NOT applying for my retirement benefits at this time and understand my retirement benefit will continue to accrue delayed retirement credits until age 70." It's infuriating that so many reps don't know these rules, but don't give up! This strategy is 100% legal and can save you tens of thousands of dollars. Your previous survivor benefits from when your kids were minors have absolutely no bearing on this - I had the same situation and it was never even mentioned during my successful application. Stay persistent and don't let them discourage you from what you're legally entitled to!

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