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Justin Chang

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to jump in and share something that might be helpful for everyone discussing Social Security calculations. I work in HR and help employees understand their benefits, and this misconception about everyone getting the same amount at 70 comes up ALL the time. One resource I always recommend is the Social Security Administration's "Break-Even Calculator" that's part of their online tools. It helps you compare the total lifetime benefits you'd receive by claiming at different ages (62, full retirement age, or 70). For someone like Yara with gaps in earnings, this can be especially valuable because it shows whether the delayed retirement credits from waiting until 70 actually make financial sense given your specific benefit amount. The other thing I'd add is that many people don't realize their earnings record might have errors. When you create that my Social Security account, definitely review your entire earnings history year by year. I've seen cases where employers didn't report earnings correctly, or where people's names didn't match exactly (maiden names, etc.) and some earnings weren't credited properly. You can dispute errors, but it's much easier to catch them before you claim benefits. For anyone with self-employment history like several people have mentioned, also double-check that your self-employment taxes were properly credited. Sometimes there are delays in processing, especially if you filed extensions or amended returns. Great discussion everyone - this is exactly the kind of real information people need instead of the myths that get passed around!

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Welcome to the community, Justin! As another newcomer, I really appreciate you bringing your HR expertise to this discussion. The Break-Even Calculator sounds like exactly the kind of tool I need - I hadn't even thought about whether waiting until 70 would actually maximize my lifetime benefits versus claiming earlier with a smaller monthly amount. Your point about checking for errors in the earnings record is so important too. I'm realizing now that I've been assuming my record is accurate without ever actually verifying it. Given my mixed employment history with self-employment periods, there could definitely be issues with how things were reported or credited. The name matching issue you mentioned is particularly relevant for me - I got married and changed my name about 15 years ago, and I'm now wondering if some of my earlier earnings might not be properly linked to my current record. That's definitely something I'll need to investigate when I create my SSA account. Thanks for adding such practical, actionable advice to this conversation. It's clear that reviewing your actual earnings history is step one before making any decisions about when to claim benefits!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed at how thorough and helpful this discussion has been! I'm currently 68 and was planning to wait until 70 to claim benefits, but like Yara, I had some completely wrong assumptions about how Social Security works. Reading everyone's responses has been a real wake-up call. I was under the impression that the benefit amount was largely standardized with maybe small variations based on income level. Learning that it's calculated using your highest 35 years of earnings and that gaps or low-earning years can significantly impact your benefit is news to me. I'm particularly concerned now because I took about 8 years off from the workforce to care for aging parents, and during that time I had zero Social Security earnings. Based on what everyone is saying, those zero years could be dragging down my average significantly. The practical advice about creating a my Social Security account resonates with me - I keep putting it off because government websites intimidate me, but clearly I need to face the music and see what my actual projected benefits look like. Justin's point about potential errors in the earnings record is also making me nervous - I've had several different employers over the decades and moved states multiple times. Thank you to everyone who shared their real numbers and experiences. It's sobering but necessary information for making informed decisions about when to claim!

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AstroAlpha

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I'm also going through this IRMAA adjustment process right now after retiring last month! This entire thread has been so incredibly helpful - thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and timelines. I filed my SSA-44 form about 10 days ago through my Social Security account online and have been anxiously checking my mail every day. Reading that the two-letter system is completely standard has really put my mind at ease. I was getting worried when I saw other people mentioning a "second letter" because I thought maybe I had missed something or filled out the form incorrectly. @Jessica Nolan - thank you so much for calling SSA directly and explaining why there are two separate letters! That makes perfect sense about the Medicare and Social Security systems not communicating in real-time. And the 3-week follow-up rule is really good to know. I'm definitely going to start checking my Medicare.gov account regularly and keeping a timeline log like @Caleb Bell suggested. The idea of monitoring my direct deposit amount for early changes is brilliant too - that might help with the anxiety of waiting for official paperwork. For those still waiting like me, it sounds like patience is key but the system does work. I'll report back once I start receiving letters to add another data point to this helpful thread!

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Welcome to the IRMAA adjustment journey! I'm also new to this whole process and just started reading through this thread today. It's amazing how much more confident I feel after seeing everyone's experiences laid out like this. I'm actually in the very early stages - my income dropped significantly when I switched to part-time work last month, and I just found out about the SSA-44 form from reading through these comments. I had no idea you could appeal IRMAA adjustments for life-changing events! @Giovanni Mancini mentioned the same thing - it seems like a lot of us don t'know about this option until we stumble across discussions like this one. I m'going to download the form today and get my paperwork together. It s'really encouraging to see that while the process has its hiccups looking (at you, @Jamal Wilson s experience!', most)people seem to get through it successfully. The detailed timelines everyone has shared are going to be so helpful for setting expectations. Thanks to everyone for sharing your stories - this community knowledge is invaluable for those of us just figuring out how all these Medicare and Social Security systems work together!

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Zara Ahmed

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I'm in the exact same situation! Just received my first IRMAA reduction letter last week after filing the life-changing event form following my retirement in January. Like you, I was confused about the "second letter" mention at the bottom and wasn't sure if that was normal procedure. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so reassuring - it sounds like this two-letter system is completely standard. The first letter confirms Medicare approved your IRMAA appeal, and the second shows how it affects your actual Social Security benefit payment. Based on what others have shared, it looks like I should expect my second letter within the next week or so. I'm definitely going to follow the advice about keeping a timeline log and checking my Medicare.gov account for early updates. The tip about monitoring direct deposit amounts is brilliant too - that might give us some peace of mind while waiting for the official paperwork. Thanks for starting this thread! It's so helpful to see that we're all going through the same process and that it actually works, even though the two-letter system seems unnecessarily complicated at first.

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I'm so glad you started this thread too! I just joined this community because I'm dealing with a very similar situation. My spouse retired in December and we filed the SSA-44 form about 2 weeks ago, but I've been so confused about what to expect next. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly educational - I had no idea this was such a common process or that the two-letter system was standard. What really stands out to me is how much the timelines vary between different people, but it seems like most folks get through it successfully within a month or so. The practical tips about checking Medicare.gov and monitoring direct deposit changes are things I never would have thought of. I'm definitely going to start keeping track of our timeline and checking those sources for early updates. It's also reassuring to see that even when people had hiccups (like some of the processing delays mentioned), they eventually got it resolved and received their backpay. Every dollar really does count on a fixed income, so knowing this system actually works gives me a lot of hope for our situation.

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Anyone else feel like they need a law degree to understand all these rules and regulations? 🤯 Why do they gotta make it so complicated?

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It's not that bad if you take it step by step. The SSA website actually has some pretty good explainers.

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Maybe for you, brainiac. Some of us are still scratching our heads šŸ˜…

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Just wanted to add my experience for anyone reading this thread. I applied for spousal benefits about 6 months ago and the whole process took around 3 months from start to finish. A couple things that helped me: • I made copies of EVERYTHING before submitting - saved me when they "lost" my marriage certificate the first time • The online application actually worked fine for me, but I called afterward to confirm they received everything • They'll send you a letter confirming your application - keep that safe! One thing I wish someone had told me: even if you're approved, there might be a delay before your first payment. Budget accordingly! Good luck to everyone going through this process. It's frustrating but totally worth it in the end šŸ’Ŗ

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Hugo Kass

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ugh why does the government make everything so complicated? šŸ™„ good luck OP, hope you figure it out!

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Nasira Ibanez

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Ikr? It's like they want us to mess up or something šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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TommyKapitz

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Another thing to keep in mind - if you're divorced, you might still be eligible for spousal benefits on your ex-spouse's record even if they've remarried! The marriage has to have lasted at least 10 years and you need to be unmarried currently. It's called "divorced spouse benefits" and a lot of people don't know about it. Definitely worth asking about if it applies to your situation.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Wow, I had no idea about the divorced spouse benefits! That's really good to know. Do you happen to know if there's a time limit on when you can apply for those? Like, do you have to wait a certain amount of time after the divorce is finalized?

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Chris King

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Smart choice waiting until FRA! I made the same decision last year and it was absolutely the right call. The peace of mind alone was worth it - no tracking earnings, no worrying about overpayments, no confusing letters from SSA. One tip for when you do apply in August: even though there are no earnings limits after FRA, SSA will still ask about your work plans on the application. Just be honest about continuing to work through October. They need this info for tax purposes and Medicare coordination, but it won't affect your benefits at all. Also, don't forget that your benefits will be subject to federal income tax if your combined income (including work earnings) exceeds certain thresholds. Might want to discuss tax withholding options with SSA when you apply, especially since you'll have work income through October.

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Ezra Beard

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This is really helpful advice about the tax implications! I hadn't even thought about the withholding options when I apply. Since I'll be working through October and then collecting SS benefits, I'm definitely going to need to plan for the tax impact. Do you know if SSA can withhold taxes from the benefits themselves, or do I need to make quarterly estimated payments? I'd rather have them take it out automatically than deal with quarterly payments on top of everything else.

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Yes, SSA can definitely withhold federal taxes from your Social Security benefits! When you apply, you can request voluntary tax withholding at 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22% of your monthly benefit. This is much easier than dealing with quarterly estimated payments, especially when you're also working part-time. You'll fill out Form W-4V (Voluntary Withholding Request) either when you apply or anytime after. You can also change or stop the withholding later if needed. Since you'll have work income through October plus SS benefits starting in August, having automatic withholding will definitely simplify your tax situation. Just make sure to coordinate with your employer's withholding too so you don't over-withhold.

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Vera Visnjic

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Just want to add another perspective as someone who went through this decision process. I was in almost the exact same situation - turning FRA in July 2024 and debating whether to start benefits early while working part-time. I ended up starting benefits 3 months before my FRA, and honestly, it worked out fine for me. The key was being VERY conservative with my earnings estimates and staying well below the higher earnings limit ($56,520 in 2024 for those reaching FRA that year). I earned about $35,000 in those first 7 months and had no issues with benefit withholding. That said, I completely understand why you're choosing to wait until FRA - the peace of mind factor is huge! The earnings test rules are genuinely confusing even when you think you understand them. Plus, you'll avoid the permanent reduction factor that applies to early benefits. One thing I'd suggest: even though you're waiting until August, go ahead and create your my Social Security account online NOW if you haven't already. This will make the application process much smoother when the time comes, and you can use the benefit calculators to see exactly what your full benefit amount will be.

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Freya Ross

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really helpful to hear from someone who actually made the early claiming work. I think the conservative approach you took with earnings estimates was smart - staying well below the limit gives you that buffer zone. You're absolutely right about creating the my Social Security account early. I actually don't have one yet, so I'll definitely do that this week. Being able to see the exact benefit calculations and have everything ready for August sounds like it'll make the process much less stressful. I'm curious - when you applied 3 months before your FRA, did SSA give you any grief about your work plans, or was it pretty straightforward once you provided your earnings estimates?

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