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I've been receiving Social Security benefits for about 8 months now and definitely echo everyone's advice about using a checking account! The flexibility has been invaluable, especially during those first few months when I was still figuring out my new budget and spending patterns. One thing I'd add that's been really helpful for me is setting up a simple monthly budget tracker specifically for my Social Security income. I use a basic spreadsheet where I list my fixed expenses (rent, utilities, insurance premiums) and variable expenses (groceries, gas, medications). This helped me see exactly how much of my SS payment was spoken for versus how much I had for discretionary spending. Also, don't be surprised if your first few deposits feel a bit surreal - after decades of earning paychecks, getting that retirement income hits differently! But in the best way possible. The reliability and consistency become such a comfort once you get into the rhythm. Congratulations on reaching this milestone! You're going to do great managing your retirement finances, and having everything set up in checking will make the practical side so much smoother.

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That's such a smart idea about creating a budget tracker specifically for Social Security income! I love the idea of breaking it down into fixed versus variable expenses - that would really help me visualize where every dollar is going and give me confidence about my spending decisions. The spreadsheet approach sounds perfect for staying organized. And thank you for mentioning that the first few deposits might feel surreal - it's good to know that's a normal part of the transition! After reading everyone's experiences, I'm feeling so much more prepared and actually excited about having that reliable monthly income. This whole thread has been incredibly helpful for planning my retirement finances.

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I've been on Social Security for about a year and a half now and definitely recommend checking for all the reasons everyone mentioned! One thing I'd add that's been really helpful - if your bank offers mobile check deposit, make sure that feature is enabled on your checking account. Sometimes you'll get unexpected checks (tax refunds, insurance reimbursements, etc.) and being able to deposit them remotely without a trip to the bank has been so convenient. Also, I learned to keep a small calendar or notebook where I mark when my SS deposit hits each month. Even though it's very reliable, having that visual record helps me plan my monthly expenses and gives me confidence in my budgeting. Some months the date shifts slightly due to weekends or holidays, so having that personal tracking system has been reassuring. The peace of mind that comes with that guaranteed monthly income really is life-changing after years of variable paychecks. You're going to love retirement! Make sure to celebrate when that first deposit comes through - you've earned every penny of it.

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The mobile check deposit tip is excellent - I hadn't even thought about that! You're absolutely right that unexpected checks come up from time to time, and being able to deposit them without making a special trip to the bank would be really convenient, especially when you're managing everything on a fixed income. I love the idea of keeping a calendar to track when deposits hit each month too. Even though Social Security is reliable, having that visual record would definitely help with planning and budgeting confidence. It's such a simple system but sounds really effective. Thank you for the encouragement about celebrating that first deposit - after all these years of working, it really will be a milestone worth celebrating! This whole conversation has me feeling so much more prepared and excited about retirement.

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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributed to this discussion! As someone who's been lurking in this community for a while but never posted before, this thread perfectly demonstrates why this place is such a valuable resource. The original question about spousal income affecting Social Security earnings limits has been thoroughly answered, but what's even more impressive is how the discussion evolved to cover all the related considerations - taxation, Medicare premiums, coordination strategies, Roth conversions, and even the withdrawal option. For anyone else in a similar situation who might find this thread later: the key takeaway is that while your spouse's income won't affect your Social Security benefit amount or trigger the earnings test, it WILL impact your taxes significantly. The real value here though is seeing how many interconnected factors there are beyond just the basic claiming decision. This is clearly not a decision to make in isolation - it requires looking at your complete financial picture, tax planning, and potentially coordinating with your spouse's retirement timeline. Thanks again to everyone who shared their real-world experiences and professional insights. This kind of peer-to-peer knowledge sharing is invaluable when navigating these complex government benefit systems!

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I completely agree, Ravi! As someone new to this community, I'm amazed at the depth and quality of advice shared here. When I first read the original question, I thought it would be a simple yes/no answer about spousal income, but this thread has revealed so many layers I never would have considered. The distinction between earnings limits, taxation of benefits, and Medicare premiums is crucial - and the strategic planning aspects like Roth conversions and coordinated claiming really show how interconnected all these decisions are. It's clear that Social Security planning isn't just about picking a date to claim benefits, but about understanding how that decision fits into your entire retirement and tax strategy. Thanks to everyone for creating such a comprehensive resource that others can learn from!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly thorough discussion! I'm 60 and facing a similar decision in the next few years, and this thread has been like a masterclass in Social Security planning. What really strikes me is how the simple question about spousal income affecting earnings limits opened up so many other crucial considerations I never would have thought of - the taxation thresholds, Medicare IRMAA, Roth conversion opportunities, and coordinated claiming strategies. It's clear that Social Security decisions can't be made in isolation from your overall financial and tax planning. One thing I'm curious about that hasn't been mentioned yet - for those who have gone through this process, did you find it helpful to run scenarios with different economic assumptions? I'm thinking about things like potential COLA changes, tax rate changes, or even changes to Social Security itself. Given that we're talking about decisions that will affect income for potentially 20-30 years, I wonder if it's worth stress-testing the claiming strategy against different future scenarios. Also, has anyone used any specific online calculators or tools that they found particularly helpful for modeling these complex interactions between Social Security benefits, taxes, and other retirement income? The SSA website gives you the basic benefit amounts, but it sounds like the real optimization requires looking at the bigger picture. Thanks again for sharing your experiences - this community is an amazing resource!

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Great questions, Hunter! I'm also relatively new here but have been doing a lot of research on this topic. For calculators, I've found that the AARP Social Security Calculator and the FidSafe Social Security Optimizer do a good job of modeling different scenarios beyond just the basic benefit amounts. They factor in taxation and can show you break-even analyses under different assumptions. Regarding stress-testing with different economic scenarios - that's such a smart approach! I've been thinking about this too, especially with all the uncertainty around potential Social Security reforms and changing tax policies. One thing I've learned from reading other threads here is that while we can't predict the future perfectly, having a strategy that's robust across different scenarios is better than trying to optimize for one specific outcome. The longevity assumption seems particularly important - if you're planning for a 20-30 year retirement, even small differences in the claiming strategy can compound significantly over time. But as several people mentioned in this thread, having other income sources (like the husband's continued earnings) gives you more flexibility to make decisions based on optimization rather than immediate need. Have you looked into any fee-only financial planners who specialize in Social Security analysis? After reading all the strategic considerations discussed here, I'm starting to think the complexity might warrant professional guidance, especially for the tax coordination aspects.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Malik. This is an incredibly difficult situation, and it's clear how much your father meant to your niece. I wanted to share something that might be relevant to your case. I work in family services, and I've seen similar situations where grandparents were the de facto parents. One thing that often helps establish the dependency relationship is any documentation showing your father made educational decisions for your niece - things like parent-teacher conference records, school enrollment forms, or even report cards that were sent to him as the responsible adult. Also, since you mentioned your father had her on his health insurance, you should request a letter from the insurance company showing the dates of coverage and confirming he listed her as his dependent. Insurance companies typically require proof of dependency to add non-biological children, so this could be strong evidence. The fact that your father was 66 and had just filed for benefits actually puts you in a good position - his work record should easily meet the "fully insured" requirement, and there shouldn't be any questions about his eligibility to provide survivor benefits. When you meet with SSA, consider bringing a timeline showing the progression of his responsibility for her care over the 6 years. Sometimes a clear chronology helps case workers understand the relationship better than scattered documents. Your preparation sounds excellent, and I hope SSA recognizes what's clearly a legitimate dependency relationship. Please keep us updated on how it goes.

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This is such helpful advice, Luca. Your suggestion about creating a timeline of Dad's caregiving responsibilities over the 6 years is brilliant - I think presenting it chronologically will really help show the progression from occasional care to full parental responsibility. I can include key milestones like when he first added her to his health insurance, when he became her primary school contact, when he started claiming her on taxes, etc. I'll definitely request that letter from the insurance company confirming the dates of her coverage and his listing of her as a dependent. You're right that insurance companies don't just let anyone add children without proof of dependency, so that should be compelling evidence. Your point about educational decision-making documentation is really valuable too. I know Dad attended all her parent-teacher conferences and was the one signing permission slips and dealing with any school issues. The school should have records of him acting in a parental capacity. It's reassuring to hear from someone who works in family services that this kind of dependency relationship is recognized and that my preparation approach makes sense. Sometimes when you're dealing with bureaucracy, you wonder if you're focusing on the right things. Thank you for the professional perspective and encouragement.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Malik. This is such a heartbreaking situation - losing your father and then having to navigate this complex bureaucracy while caring for your niece during such a difficult time. I wanted to add one more angle that might help your case. Since your father had just filed for Social Security benefits before his death, there may be a "protective filing date" established in SSA's system. This could be important because it shows his intent to claim responsibility for dependents at the time he applied. When you meet with SSA, ask specifically about what dependent information was included in his original application. Also, given the strength of your documentation (5 years of tax returns, health insurance coverage, school guardianship forms), you might want to consider requesting a formal hearing if you get an initial denial. These grandchild dependency cases can be complex, and sometimes the first reviewer isn't familiar with all the nuances of the regulations. One practical tip: bring multiple copies of everything to your appointment. SSA often needs to keep copies for their files, and having extras can speed up the process. Your niece is lucky to have you advocating for her during this transition. The fact that you're pursuing guardianship while also fighting for her benefits shows incredible dedication. Your father would be proud of how you're stepping up for her. Stay strong and persistent - this kind of caregiving relationship deserves recognition and support.

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Thank you so much, Margot. Your point about the "protective filing date" is something I definitely need to ask about - I hadn't realized that his original application might have captured dependent information that could support our case. That could be really crucial evidence that I wouldn't have thought to request. Your advice about being prepared for a potential formal hearing is wise. While I'm hoping for approval on the first try, it's good to know that option exists if we need it. Given how much documentation we have and the clear pattern of dependency over 6 years, it seems like the kind of case that should be approved, but I understand bureaucracy doesn't always work logically. I'll definitely bring multiple copies of everything - that's such a practical tip that I wouldn't have thought of. The last thing I want is delays because they need to make copies or send documents to different departments. Thank you for the encouragement about stepping up for my niece. This whole situation has been overwhelming, but she's family and deserves every bit of support she's entitled to. Dad raised her like his own daughter, and I want to make sure she gets the recognition and benefits that relationship should provide. Your support and everyone else's advice has been invaluable in helping me feel prepared for this process.

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FRA stands for Full Retirement Age - it's when you can claim your full Social Security benefit without any reduction. Since you're turning 62 next month, you were probably born in 1963, which means your FRA is 67. Here's the simple breakdown: claim at 62 and you get about 75% of your full benefit forever, wait until 67 and you get 100%, or wait until 70 and you get about 132% due to delayed retirement credits. The most important thing to know is that this decision is PERMANENT - whatever age you choose to start benefits becomes your base amount for life (plus cost of living adjustments). You can't go back and change it later. Don't feel bad about being confused by the acronyms! The SSA website is terrible at explaining things clearly. I'd definitely recommend creating a my Social Security account at ssa.gov to see your actual benefit estimates at different ages. That way you can see the real dollar differences and make the best decision for your situation. Also, if you're planning to work after claiming benefits, there's an earnings limit before your FRA that can temporarily reduce your benefits - but that goes away once you reach 67. Lots to consider!

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This is such a clear and helpful explanation! I really appreciate you emphasizing that the decision is PERMANENT - I had no idea about that aspect. The breakdown of 75% at 62, 100% at 67, and 132% at 70 really puts it in perspective. That's a massive difference in lifetime income! I'm definitely going to set up that my Social Security account this week to see my actual numbers. And thanks for mentioning the earnings limit issue - I was planning to work part-time, so knowing that goes away at 67 is really useful information. You're absolutely right that the SSA website doesn't make any of this clear for people new to the process!

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FRA stands for Full Retirement Age - it's the age when you qualify for your complete Social Security retirement benefit without any reductions. Don't feel bad about not knowing this! The SSA really does use way too many acronyms without explaining them clearly. Since you're turning 62 next month, you were most likely born in 1963, which means your FRA is 67. This is actually a really important number to understand because it affects how much you'll receive: - Claim at 62: You'll get about 75% of your full benefit amount (permanently reduced) - Wait until 67 (your FRA): You'll get 100% of your full benefit - Wait until 70: You'll get about 132% due to delayed retirement credits The key thing to remember is that whatever age you choose to start claiming becomes your permanent benefit level for life (adjusted for cost-of-living increases). You can't change your mind later and get a higher amount. Before you make any decisions, I'd strongly recommend setting up a "my Social Security" account at ssa.gov. It will show you your personalized benefit estimates at different claiming ages based on your actual work history. This way you can see the real dollar differences and make an informed choice. Also, if you're planning to work while collecting benefits before age 67, be aware there's an earnings limit that could temporarily reduce your benefits. But once you reach your FRA, you can earn as much as you want without any reduction. Take your time with this decision - it's one of the most important financial choices you'll make!

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You've got a great plan laid out! One more resource I'd recommend is the ABLE National Resource Center website (ablenrc.org) - if you qualify for an ABLE account, you can save up to $100,000 without affecting your DAC benefits. This could be really helpful for building long-term financial security while working part-time. Also, when you do start working, ask your employer about direct deposit if possible. Having a clear paper trail of your earnings makes the monthly reporting to SSA much smoother. Some employers are also more familiar with accommodating workers with disabilities than others - don't be afraid to ask about their experience during interviews. You're taking all the right steps by getting proper guidance before jumping in. Best of luck with your work journey!

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This is all such helpful information! I had never heard of ABLE accounts before - that sounds like it could be really valuable for saving money while still keeping my benefits. I'll definitely look into that website you mentioned. And you're right about direct deposit making things easier for reporting. I'm starting to feel like this is actually doable with all the right resources and planning. Thank you so much for the encouragement and practical tips!

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I'm so glad to see this conversation! As someone who's been on DAC benefits for 8 years and recently started working part-time at a local nonprofit, I wanted to share my experience. I was terrified at first too, but it's been really positive. A few things that helped me: - I started with just 6 hours a week to see how I handled it physically and mentally - My employer was very understanding about my need for flexible scheduling - I set up automatic monthly reporting through my SSA online account which makes it super easy - Having that WIPA counselor was invaluable - they walked me through everything step by step The work has actually improved my confidence and given me a sense of purpose beyond just managing my disability. Plus, I'm earning those work credits you mentioned for future security. You're asking all the right questions and taking a smart, cautious approach. The fact that you're planning ahead shows you'll do great with this transition!

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Miguel, thank you so much for sharing your personal experience! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this process successfully. Starting with just 6 hours a week sounds like a really smart approach - I think I was getting ahead of myself thinking about 10 hours right away. The fact that you mention it improved your confidence really resonates with me. I've been on DAC benefits for so long that I sometimes feel like I've lost part of my identity beyond my disability. Having that sense of purpose you describe sounds amazing. Can I ask what type of work you do at the nonprofit? I'm wondering if certain types of work environments are more accommodating than others. And the automatic monthly reporting through the online account sounds much easier than I was imagining! I was worried about complicated paperwork every month.

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