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I'm new to this community but currently going through a very similar situation with my elderly father. Reading through all these experiences has been incredibly eye-opening - I had no idea that POA doesn't give you any authority with Social Security! I've been managing my dad's finances with POA for about 8 months now, and we recently had an issue with his Social Security payment that I couldn't resolve because SSA wouldn't talk to me. Now I understand why! The social worker at his assisted living facility mentioned representative payee status, but like you, I thought my POA covered everything. Based on all the advice shared here, it sounds like getting both designations is essential for comprehensive care management. The practical tips about calling SSA at 8am, going in person to the office, and having all documentation ready are so helpful. One thing I'm curious about - for those managing both roles, do you find that nursing homes and other care facilities understand the distinction between POA and rep payee authority? Or do you often have to explain which role applies to different financial matters? Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences in this thread - it's exactly the guidance I needed to move forward confidently with the rep payee application for my father!
Welcome to the community, Anna! I'm so glad you found this thread helpful - it's exactly the kind of information I wish had been more readily available when I started this journey. To answer your question about nursing homes and care facilities: in my experience, most of them do understand the distinction pretty well, especially the social workers and billing departments. They deal with families in similar situations regularly, so they're usually familiar with both POA and rep payee roles. That said, I've found it helpful to be proactive in explaining my dual authority when first working with new providers. I typically mention that I handle her Social Security benefits as her representative payee and manage her other finances through power of attorney. This upfront clarification prevents confusion later when dealing with payment arrangements or benefit coordination. The assisted living facility where my mother stays actually has a checklist they go through with families to understand what authorizations are in place. It's made the financial coordination much smoother since everyone knows exactly who to contact for what type of issue. Your situation with the Social Security payment problem sounds so frustrating, but you'll find that having rep payee status eliminates those roadblocks completely. Good luck with your application process - you're definitely on the right track!
As someone who went through this exact situation with my mother just six months ago, I can't emphasize enough how important it is to get the representative payee status established alongside your POA. You're absolutely right to pursue this! What really surprised me was learning that Social Security operates completely independently from other financial institutions when it comes to recognizing authority. Banks, investment companies, and healthcare providers all respected my POA, but SSA wouldn't even acknowledge I existed until I became her rep payee. The process was much more straightforward than I expected. I scheduled an appointment at our local SSA office (definitely recommend going in person if possible), brought all my documentation, and they walked me through Form SSA-11. Since your mother can still participate in simple decisions, this is actually the perfect time to do it - they may require more medical documentation if you wait until her condition progresses further. One practical tip: start gathering her expense information now (rent, utilities, food, medications, etc.) as they'll ask about how her benefits are currently being used. Having this ready shows you're already managing her finances responsibly. The annual reporting (Form SSA-623) really isn't burdensome - I just keep a simple spreadsheet throughout the year tracking her SS funds separately from other income. The peace of mind of being able to communicate directly with SSA when issues arise is absolutely worth the minimal extra paperwork. You're being a wonderful advocate for your mother by getting this sorted out proactively!
Thank you so much for sharing your recent experience, Leeann! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this process successfully. Your point about Social Security operating independently from other financial institutions really drives home why both designations are necessary - I had no idea the separation was so complete! I really appreciate the practical advice about gathering expense information beforehand. That's exactly the kind of preparation tip that makes the process go more smoothly. I'm going to start organizing her monthly costs right away so I have everything ready when I schedule the appointment. Your timing point is well taken too - if my mother can still participate meaningfully in the process now, it makes sense to move forward rather than waiting until her dementia progresses further. The idea that they might require more extensive medical documentation later is something I hadn't considered. The reassurance about the annual reporting is so helpful as well. Keeping a simple spreadsheet throughout the year sounds very manageable, and knowing that the peace of mind is worth the extra effort gives me confidence to move forward. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed and encouraging guidance - it means a lot to have support from someone who recently navigated this same path!
I'm actually in the middle of this process right now too! Applied online in late January for benefits starting in February, and just like everyone else here, I got the initial confirmation email and then... complete silence for weeks. I was getting really worried that something was wrong. But after reading all these experiences, I feel so much better! It sounds like 4-6 weeks of no communication followed by the payment just appearing is totally standard. I'm supposed to get paid on the 3rd Wednesday (birthday on the 15th), so I'm hoping to see my first payment show up this month. The MySocialSecurity account thing is so frustrating though - mine still just says "pending" with no payment amounts or dates shown. But based on what others have shared, it sounds like this updates closer to the actual payment date. Thanks everyone for sharing your timelines and experiences. It's such a relief to know this radio silence is normal and not a sign that something went wrong with the application!
I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm completely new to the Social Security process and applied online about 3 weeks ago. Reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - I was starting to panic thinking I did something wrong or my application got lost in the system. It's really helpful to see that 4-6 weeks of complete silence is actually the norm, not the exception. I keep checking my MySocialSecurity account hoping for updates, but now I understand that's probably not going to change until much closer to my payment date. Thanks to everyone for sharing their timelines - it makes this waiting period so much less stressful when you know what to expect!
I'm going through this exact same process right now! Applied online about 4 weeks ago for benefits starting this month, and like everyone else here, I've heard absolutely nothing from SSA since that initial confirmation email. Reading all these experiences has been such a huge relief - I was convinced something had gone wrong with my application. It's really reassuring to see that 4-6 weeks of complete radio silence followed by the payment just showing up is totally normal procedure for them. My MySocialSecurity account still shows "pending" with no payment information, but now I understand that's typical and it probably won't update until closer to the actual payment date. For anyone else going through this waiting period - this thread has been invaluable! Knowing that straightforward retirement applications processed online typically don't require any phone calls or additional communication really helps manage the anxiety. Seems like we just need to be patient and trust that the system is working behind the scenes.
As a newcomer to this community, I want to express how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I'm in almost the exact same situation - my 16-year-old son wants to get a summer job at our local grocery store, and I've been so worried about how it might affect his survivor benefits. Reading through everyone's real experiences has been such a relief. The consistent message that typical part-time teenage work (15-20 hours at minimum wage) is very unlikely to hit those earnings limits really puts my mind at ease. At around $7.25-$12/hour for 15-20 hours weekly, he'd be earning maybe $500-900 monthly - well under that $1,950 monthly threshold everyone mentioned. What I find most encouraging is how many parents shared that the work experience actually made their teenagers MORE responsible overall - better time management, improved grades, increased maturity. I hadn't considered these positive developmental benefits because I was so focused on worrying about the SSA implications. The practical advice here is invaluable too: keeping simple tracking records, setting up separate accounts, being proactive with SSA communication rather than avoiding it, and working with employers on scheduling awareness. These feel like manageable steps rather than overwhelming bureaucratic hurdles. After reading all these experiences, I'm feeling confident about encouraging my son to take the grocery store job. The life skills, work ethic, and confidence he'll gain seem far more valuable than any minimal risk to his benefits. Thank you all for creating such a supportive community!
Welcome to the community! I'm so glad you found this thread as helpful as I did. Your situation sounds nearly identical to mine - same age, same type of job, same worries about survivor benefits. It's amazing how much peace of mind comes from hearing real experiences from people who've actually been through this. You're absolutely right about the earnings being well under the limits at those wage/hour combinations. When I did the math for my son's potential grocery store job, I got similar numbers to what you mentioned. It really helps to see it broken down that way rather than just worrying about abstract "what-ifs." I think what surprised me most was learning about all those positive developmental benefits too. Like you, I was so focused on the benefits concern that I almost missed the bigger picture - this is actually a great opportunity for our kids to learn responsibility, work ethic, and financial management in a safe, supported environment while they're still at home. The grocery store environment seems perfect for teenagers - flexible scheduling, opportunities to learn customer service and teamwork, and usually understanding managers. Plus keeping those simple records everyone mentioned doesn't seem nearly as daunting as I originally thought. It sounds like we've both gained the confidence to support our sons taking these jobs. Here's to raising kids who understand the value of hard work!
As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly comprehensive discussion! I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation - my 17-year-old wants to work at a local restaurant while receiving survivor benefits, and I've been paralyzed with worry about potential impacts. What's been so reassuring is seeing how consistent everyone's experiences have been. The earnings limits ($23,400 annually, ~$1,950 monthly) are very reasonable for typical teenage part-time work, and it's clear that most kids working 15-25 hours per week at standard wages stay well under these thresholds. But what really changed my perspective was reading about all the unexpected benefits - improved time management, better grades, increased confidence and responsibility. I was so focused on the "what if something goes wrong with SSA" that I wasn't considering how much my son could gain from the work experience itself. The practical tips shared here are fantastic: simple tracking systems (love the notebook idea!), separate bank accounts for organization, proactive communication with SSA rather than avoidance, and working with employers who are usually understanding about scheduling constraints. One thing I'm curious about - for those who've had teenagers work in food service specifically, have you found any particular challenges or benefits compared to retail? My son is interested in both restaurant and retail positions, so I'm wondering if there are any differences to consider. After reading all these experiences, I feel much more confident about supporting his desire to work. Thank you for creating such a helpful, supportive community!
I'm 63 and went through almost this exact situation 8 months ago after my cardiac surgery. I was on employer-paid medical leave and decided to file for SS retirement benefits rather than go back to work. Here's what I learned: **Yes, you can receive both benefits simultaneously** - they're separate income sources and there's no automatic prohibition from SSA. **Key things to verify with your employer:** 1. How is your PML classified on your W-2? (wages vs. non-wages affects the earnings test) 2. Are there any company-specific policies about benefit coordination that could affect your PML if you start collecting SS? 3. What's the difference between being on leave "planning to return" vs. officially retiring? **My experience:** I successfully received both for 12 weeks. My PML counted as wages, so my SS was temporarily reduced by about $165/month due to the earnings test. Once my leave ended, full SS benefits resumed. The advice about getting written confirmation from HR is absolutely critical - I had everything documented which prevented confusion later when payroll had questions. One additional tip: when you call SSA to apply, be upfront about your ongoing PML payments. They'll want to know the amounts and duration for earnings test calculations. Given your health situation and being so close to FRA anyway, the financial security now might outweigh waiting for the slightly higher benefit later. Good luck with your recovery!
Thank you for sharing your experience! It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through cardiac surgery and made this decision. Your timeline of successfully receiving both benefits for 12 weeks is encouraging, and I appreciate you mentioning the specific amount of the temporary SS reduction ($165/month) - that helps me understand what to expect financially. The point about being upfront with SSA about ongoing PML payments when applying is important - I want to make sure I handle everything correctly from the start. Like you, my health situation after surgery is making me lean toward taking the financial security now rather than waiting for the slightly higher benefit later. Thanks for the practical advice about documenting everything with HR and being transparent with SSA during the application process!
I'm 65 and went through this exact situation 6 months ago after my hip surgery! I was on paid medical leave for about 10 weeks and decided to file for SS retirement benefits halfway through my leave period. **The good news:** You absolutely CAN receive both your employer's PML and SS retirement benefits at the same time - they're treated as separate income sources by SSA. **What I learned the hard way:** 1. **Ask HR specifically how your PML is reported** - Mine was classified as wages on my W-2, which meant it triggered the earnings test and temporarily reduced my SS payments by about $140/month until my leave ended. 2. **Get EVERYTHING in writing** - I requested written confirmation from HR about: how PML is classified, whether starting SS affects my leave eligibility, and what happens if I officially retire vs. planning to return. 3. **Be prepared for paperwork coordination** - When I applied for SS, I had to report my ongoing PML income for their earnings calculations. **My timeline:** I collected both benefits for 5 weeks without any major issues. Once my PML ended, my full SS benefit amount kicked in. The 7.8% permanent reduction for filing 14 months early was something I wrestled with, but given my health concerns and wanting financial security during recovery, it felt like the right choice for my situation. The key is getting clear documentation upfront and being transparent with both your employer and SSA about your situation. Hope your recovery goes well!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience - this is exactly what I needed to hear! Your situation sounds almost identical to mine, and it's really reassuring to know that you successfully managed both benefits for 5 weeks. The specific details about the temporary $140/month reduction due to the earnings test gives me a realistic expectation of what might happen in my case. I really appreciate you emphasizing the importance of getting everything in writing from HR - that seems to be the common thread from everyone who navigated this successfully. Your point about being transparent with both the employer and SSA resonates with me too. Like you, I'm leaning toward prioritizing the financial security during recovery over waiting for the slightly higher benefit later. Thanks for the encouragement about my recovery and for sharing such practical, actionable advice!
Katherine Shultz
As someone who just went through this process last year, I can confirm that those final paychecks will definitely count toward your Social Security record! The key thing to understand is that SSA does an automatic recomputation each year, typically processing these adjustments between October and December of the following year. Since you mentioned you have over 40 years of SS-covered work, those final 2025 earnings could potentially replace one of your lower-earning years from the 1980s or early 1990s, which would increase your benefit. Even though it's a partial year, if the indexed earnings are higher than your lowest year in the calculation, you'll see an increase. One tip: keep copies of all those final paystubs showing the SS taxes withheld. While the process is automatic, having documentation can be helpful if there are any discrepancies. And definitely follow up on that SSA-150 form - many school districts don't proactively provide it, but it's important for proper WEP calculations.
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Fatima Al-Mazrouei
•This is exactly the kind of detailed, helpful information I was hoping to find! Thank you for confirming the timeline - knowing that adjustments typically happen between October and December gives me a realistic expectation. And you're absolutely right about keeping those paystub copies. I've been pretty good about keeping financial records, but I'll make sure to specifically save those final ones showing the SS withholdings. It's encouraging to hear from someone who actually went through this process recently. Did you notice a significant increase in your benefit when those final earnings were factored in?
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Nathan Dell
I'm in a very similar situation as a newcomer to this community! I'm planning to retire from teaching in Texas next year and will hit my FRA in June, but I'll also have some delayed summer paychecks coming after I start collecting SS benefits. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea about the automatic recomputation process or the SSA-150 form that @ThunderBolt7 mentioned. The timing information from @Katherine Shultz about adjustments happening between October-December is particularly useful for planning purposes. I'm also facing the WEP reduction since Texas teachers don't pay into SS for their teaching work, though I have about 25 years of private sector work where I did pay in. One question I have after reading all this - has anyone here dealt with the interaction between state teacher retirement system timing and SS benefit start dates? I'm wondering if there are any coordination issues I should be aware of when both systems are processing retirement benefits simultaneously.
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Evelyn Kim
•Welcome to the community, Nathan! Your situation sounds very similar to what many of us are navigating. Regarding the coordination between state teacher retirement and Social Security timing, I haven't experienced any direct coordination issues since they're separate systems, but there are a few things to keep in mind. The timing of when your state pension payments begin can affect your WEP calculation - SSA needs to know when your pension starts to properly calculate the reduction. That's another reason why the SSA-150 form that @ThunderBolt7 mentioned is so important. Also, make sure both systems have your correct direct deposit information if you're using different banks or accounts. I'd suggest contacting both your state teacher retirement system and SSA to confirm they have accurate benefit start dates, especially since you'll be starting SS right at your FRA. The key is making sure both systems are aware of your timeline so there aren't any delays or complications in processing your benefits.
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