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I'm in a similar boat - just started working at a synagogue a few months ago and wasn't sure about the unemployment situation if things don't work out. From reading everyone's responses it sounds like most religious organizations in NY do participate in the unemployment system. It's reassuring to know that filing won't cause any issues even if there's uncertainty about eligibility. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, this thread has been really informative for those of us working in religious organizations!

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I'm glad this thread has been helpful for you too! It really does seem like most religious organizations in New York participate in the unemployment system just like regular employers. I was in the same position as the original poster - worried about whether working for a religious organization would somehow disqualify me. But from everyone's experiences here, it sounds like the key thing is just whether your employer has been paying into the unemployment fund, regardless of whether they're religious or not. The NYS Department of Labor will sort out the eligibility during the claims process. Hope things work out well at your synagogue!

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I was in a very similar situation last year when I got laid off from my job as a youth coordinator at a Methodist church in upstate NY. I was so worried about the religious exemption issue that I almost didn't file, but I'm glad I did! My claim was approved without any issues. The church had been paying unemployment taxes all along. The NYS Department of Labor representatives I spoke with said that most churches in New York do participate in the system unless they're very small operations. Don't let the religious aspect discourage you from filing - you earned those benefits through your work. The online application process was straightforward and I received my first payment within a few weeks. Best of luck with your claim!

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This is so helpful to hear! I've been reading through all these responses and it's really reassuring to see so many people who had similar experiences with different types of religious organizations - churches, parishes, synagogues - and they all got approved for unemployment benefits. It sounds like the religious aspect really isn't the barrier I was worried it would be. I'm definitely going to file my claim now. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories, it's made me feel much more confident about the process!

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Zoe Wang

THE WORST PART IS TRYING TO GET THEM ON THE PHONE OMFG. I spent THREE WEEKS trying to reach a human being at NY unemployment to fix an issue with my claim. The phone system is a joke - either busy signals or it hangs up on you after making you go through all the prompts!!!

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what's that? never heard of it.

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It's a service that calls unemployment for you and stays on hold, then connects you when a real person picks up. Only way I finally got through after weeks of trying.

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Hey Hunter! I'm in a similar situation - bartender at a place in Manhattan that went from packed to ghost town practically overnight. I successfully got partial unemployment and it's been a lifesaver while I figure things out. The key things that helped me: 1) When you apply online, be super clear that your hours were cut due to "lack of work" not that you're "still employed" 2) Keep detailed records of your daily earnings and days worked - you'll need this for weekly certification 3) Try to consolidate your shifts into fewer days if possible because of NY's weird day-counting system. Also heads up - the website will probably crash on you multiple times during the application process. Don't give up! Save your progress frequently. The whole system is frustrating but the benefits really help bridge the gap. Good luck and hang in there - this rough patch won't last forever! 🙏

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@Dylan Mitchell This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for taking the time to write this out. I m'definitely going to apply tonight and I ll'make sure to emphasize the lack "of work angle." The tip about consolidating shifts is huge - I had no idea about NY s'day-counting system until reading this thread. It s'insane that working 1 hour counts the same as working 8 hours for a day. Quick question - how long did it take for your benefits to start coming in after you applied? I m'really stressed about making rent and need to know if I should be looking for emergency assistance too.

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@Dylan Mitchell This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I m'the original poster and I m'going to apply tonight using your advice. Quick question about the weekly certification - do you report tips separately from wages or all together as total earnings? Also, did you run into any issues with them questioning whether your hour reduction was voluntary "vs" involuntary? I m'worried they might think I chose to work less when really management just cut everyone s'shifts due to slow business.

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Been there! My redetermination took about 5 weeks but that was during a busy period. The waiting is the worst part honestly. Just try to stay patient and keep documenting everything in case they need more info later.

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I'm going through something similar right now - got my redetermination notice about 2 weeks ago and it's definitely stressful not knowing when it'll be resolved. From what I've researched, the NYS DOL website mentions they aim to complete most redeterminations within 6-8 weeks, but like others have said, it really depends on your specific situation. One thing that helped ease my anxiety was setting up the online account if you haven't already - at least you can see the status updates there even if they're minimal. Hang in there, and definitely keep filing those weekly claims like Omar mentioned!

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Thanks Sofia! I do have the online account set up but you're right, the status updates are pretty minimal - just shows "under review" basically. Good to know about the 6-8 week timeframe from their website though, I hadn't seen that specific info. It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one dealing with this right now. How has your experience been with keeping up the weekly claims during the redetermination? Are yours showing as pending too?

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The whole system is so confusing! Why can't they just give you a simple estimate when you start the application process? I spent hours trying to calculate mine and still wasn't sure until I actually got approved.

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I totally agree! It would be so much easier if they had a simple calculator right on the main page. I'm in a similar situation trying to figure this out before I file. The fact that we all have to piece together the formula from different sources shows how unclear their system is.

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I've been through this process recently and want to add that you should also check if you qualify for the alternative base period if your regular base period doesn't meet the requirements. This uses the most recent four quarters instead of the first four of the last five. Also, keep in mind that the 50% calculation has a minimum weekly benefit of $104, so even if your calculation comes out lower, you'd still get at least that amount. The my.ny.gov site does have a worksheet you can download under the "Unemployment Insurance" section that walks through the math step by step - it's buried in there but helps a lot once you find it.

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This is really helpful info! I didn't know about the alternative base period option - that could make a big difference for people who had lower earnings earlier but higher recent earnings. Do you happen to know if there's a specific form you need to fill out to request the alternative base period calculation, or does NYS DOL automatically check both when you apply?

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@NeonNomad Thanks for mentioning that worksheet! I've been struggling to find clear documentation on their site. One thing I'm still confused about - when they say "highest quarter" do they mean the quarter with the most total earnings, or do they factor in things like overtime differently? I had a few quarters where I worked a lot of overtime which bumped up my total pay significantly, but I'm not sure if that's treated the same as regular wages in their calculation.

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Just wanted to jump in here as someone who's been helping folks with this exact issue! I work as a benefits advocate and we've been seeing this endless loop problem constantly since the January update. A few additional tips that have worked for people I've helped: 1. If you're copy-pasting any information (like employer names or addresses), try typing it manually instead - sometimes hidden formatting characters cause issues 2. Make sure your browser isn't auto-filling any fields, as this can sometimes introduce weird characters 3. If you have a hyphenated last name or company name, try removing the hyphen temporarily just for the submission Also wanted to mention that if you're still stuck after trying all these workarounds, you can request to have your claim put on hold while you resolve the reporting issue - this prevents any potential benefit delays while you're fighting with the system. You just need to call and explain the technical difficulties you're experiencing. It's frustrating that we need all these workarounds, but at least there are multiple solutions that seem to help different people depending on their specific situation!

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I hadn't thought about copy-pasting potentially causing issues with hidden characters. I've been copying my employer's name from their website this whole time - that could definitely be the problem. Going to try typing everything manually and see if that fixes it. Really appreciate you sharing your professional experience with this issue - it's reassuring to know there are people out there helping others navigate this mess of a system!

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Wow, reading through all these comments has been such a relief - I thought I was going crazy! I've been stuck in this same endless loop for the past few days trying to report my part-time retail job. Based on everyone's suggestions, I think my issue might be that I've been using the "&" symbol in my employer's name (it's "Smith & Co"). Going to try removing that and typing everything manually instead of copy-pasting. It's honestly mind-blowing that such simple things like punctuation marks can break a government website, but at least now I have a roadmap of things to try. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and solutions - this community is a lifesaver when dealing with such a frustrating system!

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Yes, that ampersand is almost certainly your problem! I had the exact same issue with an employer name that had "&" in it. Once I changed it to "and" instead, the form went through immediately. It's ridiculous that such basic punctuation breaks their system, but at least it's an easy fix once you know about it. Good luck - you should be able to get it submitted now!

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