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This is such a common pain point for S Corp owners! I went through the exact same thing a few years ago. The key insight that finally clicked for me was understanding that the IRS treats S Corps as separate entities for payroll tax purposes, which is why you lose the FICA exemption for minor children. One approach that worked for us was creating a separate sole proprietorship for property management services. This sole prop contracts with our S Corp to provide maintenance services for the rental properties, and then hires our kids directly. The sole prop pays the S Corp a management fee, and the kids get paid by the sole prop - avoiding FICA taxes on their wages. The critical part is making sure this has real business substance. We documented everything: service agreements between entities, separate bank accounts, proper invoicing, and detailed records of work performed. Our kids track their hours using a simple app, and we pay them bi-weekly by direct deposit. One word of caution - make sure you're paying reasonable wages for their age and the work performed. We researched local rates for teen lawn care workers and stay within that range. The IRS will scrutinize family employment arrangements, so documentation is everything. Would definitely recommend finding a good CPA who understands these structures before implementing anything. The setup costs are worth it for the long-term tax savings and the valuable work experience for your kids!

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Mia Green

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This is really helpful! I'm curious about the mechanics of the service agreement between the sole prop and S Corp. How do you structure the management fee to make sure it passes the IRS "reasonable compensation" test? And do you have the sole prop bill the S Corp monthly, or tie it to specific projects/services? I'm also wondering about the practical side - do your kids actually enjoy doing the property maintenance work, or is it more of a "character building" exercise? 😅 Trying to figure out if this is something that would work long-term with teenagers who might have other priorities.

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CosmosCaptain

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Great discussion here! I've been following along as someone considering a similar setup. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of getting everything properly documented from a legal perspective, not just tax. When you create these separate entities (sole prop, family partnerships, etc.), you need to make sure you're complying with your state's business registration requirements. Some states require even sole proprietorships to register if they're operating under a business name different from your personal name. Also worth considering - if your kids are going to be doing any maintenance work involving tools or potentially hazardous tasks, make sure your business insurance covers them as employees. Had a friend whose teenage son got hurt doing yard work for the family business, and they had coverage issues because the insurance company wasn't aware minors were working for the business. The documentation suggestions everyone's given are spot-on. I'd add that it's also smart to have your kids sign basic employment agreements (age-appropriate) that outline their responsibilities, work schedules, and safety protocols. Shows the IRS this is a legitimate employment relationship, not just allowance with extra steps. One last thought - consider having them contribute some of their earnings to a Roth IRA. Great way to teach financial responsibility while taking advantage of their likely low tax bracket!

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NebulaNomad

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Make sure you keep documentation of all your attempts to contact the trustee about getting your K-1. If you end up having to file late because of their delay, you can request abatement of any penalties by showing it wasn't your fault. I went through this last year, and the IRS was actually pretty reasonable when I explained and provided evidence of my multiple attempts to get the necessary documents from the trustee.

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Javier Garcia

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How exactly do you document these attempts? Would emails be sufficient or do you need something more formal?

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Sean Matthews

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Emails are definitely sufficient documentation. I'd also recommend sending at least one certified letter to the trustee requesting the K-1, as this creates an official paper trail with delivery confirmation. Keep copies of all correspondence, including any phone call logs with dates and what was discussed. The IRS typically accepts reasonable documentation that shows you made good faith efforts to obtain necessary tax documents. Screenshots of unanswered emails, certified mail receipts, and even records of unreturned voicemails can all help demonstrate that the delay wasn't due to your negligence.

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Donna Cline

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and found that some states have specific statutes governing trustee communication requirements. In my state (California), trustees are required under Probate Code Section 16061 to provide beneficiaries with reasonably detailed information about trust administration upon request. You might want to check if your state has similar laws. I sent my trustee a formal written request citing the relevant state statute, and suddenly they became much more responsive. It's worth looking up your state's trust code or uniform trust act provisions - many require trustees to keep beneficiaries "reasonably informed" which would include timely notification about filing extensions. Even if there's no criminal penalty, trustees can face personal liability for breaching their fiduciary duties, so mentioning the legal requirements often gets their attention quickly.

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This is really helpful advice about state-specific trustee requirements! I'm curious - when you sent that formal written request citing the California statute, how long did it take for the trustee to respond? And did they provide the K-1 immediately or just better communication about the timeline? I'm in Texas and wondering if we have similar provisions here. The lack of communication has been the most frustrating part - even a simple "we filed an extension, expect your K-1 by September" would make this so much less stressful.

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I had a similar experience with ID.me's invasive requirements. What worked for me was using the IRS Direct Authentication method that others mentioned. The key thing to know is that you'll need to have your financial information handy - they ask about previous addresses, loan amounts, and account details from your credit report. Make sure you have access to your most recent tax return too, as they sometimes reference information from it. The process is much more straightforward than ID.me's facial recognition circus, and you don't have to worry about uploading sensitive documents to a third party. Once you're verified, accessing your transcripts is instant and you can use them for whatever tax planning you need to do.

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Dyllan Nantx

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I completely understand your concerns about ID.me - their data practices have been questionable at best. I recently went through this same process and found that the IRS Direct Authentication method is definitely the way to go. Unlike ID.me, you're dealing directly with the IRS system, so there's no third-party data sharing involved. The verification process asks knowledge-based questions about your financial history, similar to what you mentioned with your banking verification. Make sure you have your previous tax returns handy and know details about any loans or credit accounts you've had. The whole process took me about 10 minutes, and I had immediate access to my transcripts without having to upload any photos or go through facial recognition. It's honestly what the IRS should have been using all along instead of forcing people through ID.me's invasive process.

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This is exactly what I was looking for! I've been avoiding the whole process because ID.me felt way too invasive compared to other verification methods I've used. It's reassuring to know that the Direct Authentication actually works well and keeps everything within the IRS system. Quick question - when you say "knowledge-based questions about financial history," are we talking about the same type of questions that credit monitoring services ask? Like "which of these addresses did you live at" or "what was your mortgage payment range"? I want to make sure I have all the right information ready before I start the process. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Levi Parker

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Something to remember about the dependent care FSA: if you and your spouse both have access to one through work, the $5000 limit is per family, not per person. Made that mistake one year and had to deal with excess contributions on our tax return. Not fun!

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Libby Hassan

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Ugh, really? My wife and I both put in $5000 this year... how bad is it to fix this? Do we have to amend or is it something we handle when we file?

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Levi Parker

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You don't need to amend anything right now, but you'll need to handle it when you file your taxes. The excess $5000 will need to be added back to your taxable income on your tax return. Your W-2s will show the full amounts in Box 10 (for dependent care benefits), and you'll need to report the excess on your Form 2441. Basically, you'll still get pre-tax treatment on the first $5000 combined, but that extra $5000 will be taxed. Check with your payroll department ASAP to see if you can stop or reduce contributions for the rest of this year to minimize the excess.

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For the healthcare side, remember that FSA and HSA are completely different things! FSA = Flexible Spending Account, use-it-or-lose-it each year HSA = Health Savings Account, yours forever, rolls over yearly You mentioned both in your title but then only talked about FSAs. If you actually have access to an HSA (requires being on a high-deductible health plan), that's usually a better long-term financial choice than an FSA because you never lose the money and can invest it for retirement.

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Sofia Peña

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Can you have both an HSA and FSA at the same time? My company offers both but HR wasn't clear if I could do both.

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Javier Torres

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I've been dealing with this exact same TaxAct saving issue for the past week! What finally worked for me was a combination of things: first, I switched to using Microsoft Edge instead of Chrome (apparently some tax sites work better with Edge), then I made sure to disable all browser extensions, and most importantly - I found that the saving issue happens less frequently if you manually save your progress every few minutes by clicking on a different section and then coming back. Also, if you're worried about losing your data, TaxAct actually keeps multiple backup copies. You can access previous versions by going to "My Account" and looking for "Restore Previous Version" - this saved me when I thought I lost everything last Tuesday. The system usually auto-saves even when the visual indicator gets stuck, but having that backup option gave me peace of mind. One more tip: try working on your return during off-peak hours (early morning or late evening). I noticed the saving issues were much worse during typical work hours when their servers are probably getting hammered by everyone trying to file before the deadline.

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Nia Thompson

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These are really comprehensive suggestions! I'm particularly interested in the Microsoft Edge tip - I've been using Chrome this whole time and never thought the browser choice might make a difference for tax software. The manual saving by switching sections is clever too. Quick question - when you say "off-peak hours," what time range worked best for you? I've been trying to work on this mostly in the evenings around 7-9pm, but maybe that's still too busy? I might try getting up early tomorrow and tackling it around 6am before everyone else is online. Also super helpful to know about the "Restore Previous Version" feature - that definitely gives me more confidence to keep trying with TaxAct instead of starting over somewhere else!

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Emma Wilson

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I've been struggling with this exact same TaxAct saving issue! After reading through all these suggestions, I wanted to share what finally worked for me. I tried the browser switching (Chrome to Firefox), cleared cache, used incognito mode - nothing worked consistently. What actually solved it was a combination of using a wired connection instead of WiFi AND working during early morning hours (around 5-6am). The difference was night and day! I think their servers are just completely overloaded during peak times as we get closer to the deadline. For anyone still battling this - don't panic about losing your data. I discovered that even when the "saving" message gets stuck, TaxAct is still saving your progress in the background. You can verify this by logging out completely, then logging back in - your information should still be there. If you absolutely can't get it working and need to switch software, make sure to download or print a copy of what you've entered so far as backup before starting over elsewhere. The deadline stress is real, but there are definitely solutions that work!

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Jordan Walker

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Thanks for sharing your experience! The early morning timing tip is really valuable - I never would have thought that server load could make such a huge difference. I've been trying to work on my taxes in the evenings after work, but sounds like I should set my alarm early and tackle it when fewer people are online. The reassurance about background saving is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been so paranoid about losing hours of work that I've probably been making the problem worse by constantly refreshing or trying to force saves. Good to know the system is likely preserving my progress even when the interface freezes up. I'm definitely going to try the wired connection + early morning approach before considering switching to a different platform. At this point I'm willing to get up at 5am if it means finally getting past this saving nightmare!

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