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Another thing to consider - the year someone dies, the surviving spouse can still file jointly for that year. The tax benefit of married filing jointly is usually better than filing as single. After that, the surviving spouse might qualify for qualifying widow(er) status for 2 years if they have a dependent child. Lots of people don't know about this filing status option!
I didn't know about the qualifying widow(er) status! That's really helpful information. In this case though, they didn't have dependent children living with them. It sounds like for the 2020 return, they should file jointly without the deceased designation, then for 2021 file jointly with deceased designation, and then for 2022 she would have to file as single. Is that right?
Yes, you've got it exactly right! For 2020, file jointly with no deceased designation since he was alive all year. For 2021, file jointly with deceased designation since that's the year he passed away. Then for 2022 forward, she'll file as single (or head of household if she has qualifying dependents, but it sounds like she doesn't). One thing to note - when filing that 2021 return with deceased status, make sure to write "DECEASED" and the date of death across the top of the return to ensure proper processing. Some tax software handles this automatically, but it's good to double-check.
The preparer probably confused the filing status with the need to indicate the taxpayer was deceased. This happens a lot with less experienced preparers. For 2020, file normal joint return. For 2021, file joint return but with deceased status. If she itemizes deductions, don't forget medical expenses for her deceased spouse can be claimed on the final return.
Some states don't have income tax at all, so you might not need to file depending on where you live. For example, I'm in Florida and we don't have state income tax, so I don't file a state return even though I have similar 1099 forms from investments. The states with no income tax are: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming. New Hampshire only taxes interest and dividend income.
I'm in Illinois, which definitely has state income tax unfortunately. So based on what everyone's saying, it sounds like I do need to file a state return even though all my income is from investments. Do you know if there's a minimum threshold for filing in states that do have income tax? Like if my investment income is pretty small, maybe I don't need to file?
Illinois definitely requires filing for investment income. Their threshold is pretty low too - I believe it's only $2,275 for single filers in 2024. If your total income from all sources (including those 1099 forms) exceeds that amount, you need to file. Even with relatively small investment income, you should still file. One benefit is that Illinois has a property tax credit that you might be eligible for, so you could actually get money back depending on your situation. Many people miss out on state tax credits because they incorrectly assume they don't need to file.
Probably a stupid question but how do investment apps even know which state to report your income to? I use Robinhood and Webull just like you and moved twice last year...
Not a stupid question! Investment companies report your info to the IRS with your SSN but don't actually determine which state you file in. They typically send 1099s with your federal info only. It's your responsibility to report that income on the correct state returns based on your residency.
One thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - at your daughter's age, time is her biggest advantage. With a Roth (either IRA or 403b if they offer a Roth option), she'll never pay taxes on all that growth over 40+ years. That's potentially huge! When I was younger I focused solely on the traditional 401k for the immediate tax benefits, but now I wish I'd done more Roth contributions early in my career when my tax rate was lower. The math works out better in most cases for young people to pay the taxes now and enjoy tax-free growth forever.
Is there a calculator or something that shows the break-even point between traditional vs Roth? I always hear conflicting advice and don't know how to figure out which is actually better for my situation.
There's no perfect calculator because it depends on assumptions about future tax rates that nobody can predict with certainty. However, a good rule of thumb is that if you expect your tax rate in retirement to be higher than it is now, go with Roth. If you expect it to be lower, go traditional. For young people early in their careers with relatively low incomes, Roth often makes more sense because they're likely in a lower tax bracket now than they will be in retirement. But everyone's situation is different - factors like pension income, Social Security, and other retirement income sources can affect your future tax situation.
Has anyone considered suggesting a split approach? I contribute 5% to my traditional 403b to get the employer match, then max out my Roth IRA, then go back to the 403b if I can afford more. This gives me tax diversity in retirement.
Just another thing to consider - since this is referral income, you might have some actual business expenses to deduct on your Schedule C. Do you drive to any of these referral jobs? Do you use your personal phone? Do you have any marketing expenses or business cards? All of that could be deductible and lower your taxable income.
Thanks for mentioning this! I do actually use my personal phone to coordinate with the cleaning company about the referrals, and sometimes I drive to meet potential referral clients to assess their needs before connecting them. Would those miles be deductible? And what percentage of my phone bill could I reasonably claim?
Yes, the mileage for driving to meet potential referral clients would absolutely be deductible! Keep a log of those trips with dates, miles driven, and purpose. The current mileage rate for 2025 is 67 cents per mile, which adds up quickly. For your phone, you would deduct the percentage that you use for business purposes. If you use your phone about 30% of the time for these referrals, then you could deduct 30% of your bill. Just make sure you have a reasonable basis for whatever percentage you claim and keep your phone bills as documentation. You might also consider a separate phone line for business if the volume increases.
KingKongZilla
Something nobody's mentioned yet - the parent who claims the child also gets to file as Head of Household (if they qualify otherwise), which is a better filing status than Single. Plus that parent might qualify for Earned Income Credit and Child Tax Credit. We're talking potentially thousands of dollars difference. If your ex files first and wrongly claims your child, you'll have to paper file, and it can take 6+ months to get your refund while the IRS sorts it out. Document EVERYTHING - school records showing your address, medical appointments you took the child to, daycare receipts, etc. Calendar entries and text messages discussing the schedule can help too.
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Skylar Neal
ā¢Thanks for bringing up the Head of Household point - I didn't even think about that! Do I need any specific documentation to prove I qualify for that status? I'm worried that if I have to paper file, it's going to be a huge mess.
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KingKongZilla
ā¢For Head of Household status, you need to show you paid more than half the cost of keeping up the home where your child lived for more than half the year. Keep records of rent/mortgage payments, utility bills, property taxes, food expenses, repairs, etc. Paper filing in these situations is unfortunately common. The key is sending a complete package - your tax return, a signed statement explaining the custody situation, and copies (not originals) of documents proving where your child lives. Include a cover letter referencing "dependent dispute" and attach any evidence that shows you're the custodial parent. It takes patience, but the IRS will sort it out if you have proper documentation.
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Rebecca Johnston
Quick tip: if you receive any government assistance or benefits for your child (Medicaid, CHIP, food benefits, etc.), those records are GOLD for proving your case. The agencies that approve those benefits already verified your child lives with you. Also, Form 8332 was mentioned earlier - that's actually how you as the custodial parent can ALLOW the non-custodial parent to claim the child. If you never signed this form, and your child lives with you most of the time, you have the right to claim the child. Your ex filing first is just going to create headaches for both of you.
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Nathan Dell
ā¢Would text messages where the other parent acknowledges the custody schedule help? I'm dealing with this right now and have tons of texts but no formal agreement.
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