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Ellie Kim

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're calculating the $83,500 limit correctly. It includes: - Your pre-tax/Roth 401k contributions (max $23,000 or $30,500 if over 50) - Employer match and any profit sharing - After-tax contributions But if you're self-employed with a Solo 401k or have a SEP IRA, the calculations can be different. Also, the limit is per-employer, so if you changed jobs mid-year, you might actually be ok.

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Fiona Sand

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Wait the $83,500 limit is per employer?? I thought it was a total annual limit across all accounts? Does that mean if I contribute to a 401k at two different employers in the same year I could potentially contribute up to $167,000 total??

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Ellie Kim

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Yes, the $83,500 annual addition limit (for 2024) is technically per-employer. So if you work for two completely unrelated employers who each have their own 401(k) plan, you could potentially contribute up to the limit in each plan. However, your personal elective deferral limit ($23,000 for 2024, or $30,500 if you're over 50) is a combined limit across all employer plans. So while you can't defer more than $23,000 total between both employers' plans, you could still potentially reach the annual addition limit at each employer through employer contributions and after-tax contributions.

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The 1099-R with Code G is only showing your mega backdoor Roth conversion amount, not your total contributions. The Code P you're referring to would only appear if Vanguard had identified and distributed excess deferrals back to you. Check your W-2 Box 12 codes D, AA, and BB to see your actual pre-tax and Roth 401k contributions. Then get your total employer contributions from your year-end statement. Add those three together and if they're over $83,500, THEN you have an excess contribution.

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This is super helpful. What about if some of my money went to ESPP (employee stock purchase plan)? Does that count toward the $83.5k limit? And also do you know if we can just leave excess contributions in there and pay the penalty? Is it just 6% per year or are there other issues?

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CosmicCadet

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Former tax preparer here - another approach if the school won't provide a breakdown: calculate the hourly rate for the whole program, then multiply by the hours that are clearly for childcare (before/after normal school hours and summer). For example: - If you pay $12,000/year for a program that's 8 hours/day (8am-4pm) for 50 weeks - That's 2,000 hours total = $6/hour - If you need extended care from 7am-8am and 4pm-6pm (3 extra hours daily), that's 750 extra hours per year - 750 hours Ɨ $6/hour = $4,500 qualified childcare expense This is a reasonable method that should satisfy the IRS if questioned, since you're using a consistent methodology to separate educational vs childcare costs.

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That's really helpful! I hadn't thought about breaking it down hourly like that. My daughter is there from 7:30am-5:30pm most days, with regular program hours being 9am-3pm, so that's 4 extra hours daily that are clearly for childcare purposes. Summer is about 8 weeks when she's there full-time. Does this sound like a reasonable approach?

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CosmicCadet

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That approach sounds perfect for your situation. With regular program hours of 9am-3pm and your daughter attending 7:30am-5:30pm, you've got 4 hours of extended care each day that clearly qualifies for the credit. For the summer period (8 weeks), you can count all hours as qualified childcare expenses since regular school wouldn't be in session. The IRS recognizes that summer programs serve a dual purpose of education and allowing parents to work, so the full cost during that period typically qualifies regardless of content.

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Chloe Harris

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I just want to add that you should definitely file Form 2441 with your taxes to claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit. The max eligible expenses are $3,000 for one child or $6,000 for two or more children, and the credit percentage depends on your income (ranging from 20-35%). Make sure the Montessori provides their tax ID number (EIN) since you'll need that on the form. Most reputable child care providers are used to providing this info for parents.

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Actually, the Child and Dependent Care Credit maximum was temporarily increased a couple years ago but has reverted back to the lower amounts for 2025 filing. Always check the current year's limits because Congress keeps changing these numbers.

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StarSailor

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you establish a health insurance plan reimbursement arrangement through your S corp in WRITING. My accountant said this was critical. We created a simple document that outlines how the S corp will reimburse health insurance premiums for employees (just my wife and me). Without this written plan, the IRS could potentially disallow your deductions during an audit. Also don't forget that the deduction for S corp health insurance is limited to your business income. If your S corp has a loss for the year, you can't deduct the premiums.

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Do you have a template for that written plan? Or did you have your accountant create it? I'm trying to figure out if this is something we can do ourselves or if we need professional help with it.

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StarSailor

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I created it myself based on some research, then had my accountant review it. It doesn't need to be super complex - mine is about 2 pages. It basically states that the corporation will reimburse employees (including shareholder-employees) for health insurance premiums up to a certain amount annually. Key elements to include: effective date, eligible employees, what expenses are covered, maximum reimbursement amounts, how/when reimbursements will be processed, and documentation requirements (employees need to submit proof of premium payments). You should also state that it's intended to comply with relevant tax regulations.

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Marketplace insurance might actually be a good option since you mentioned you left your job recently. You'd qualify for a Special Enrollment Period due to loss of coverage, so you don't have to wait for open enrollment. For our S corp, we found that getting individual marketplace plans and having the company reimburse us worked better than a group plan because we qualified for premium tax credits based on our salary (not including distributions). You do need to be careful about how you structure your salary vs distributions to maximize the benefits.

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Yara Sabbagh

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I did this with my S-corp and it works well, but make sure you understand the income reporting. The marketplace uses MAGI (modified adjusted gross income) to determine subsidies, which includes your W-2 wages plus business profits passed through to your personal return.

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Nalani Liu

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Just to add some perspective from someone who's been through this: I didn't file for 6 years (2009-2014) and finally got everything squared away in 2015. Here's what happened: 1) For the years I was owed refunds, I got them (except for the ones past the 3-year limit) 2) For the years I owed taxes, I had to pay penalties and interest 3) I set up a payment plan for what I owed 4) Life went on and everything was fine NO JAIL TIME. No scary agents showing up at my door. Just some paperwork and eventually a monthly payment that was totally manageable. The anxiety of not filing was WAY worse than actually fixing the problem.

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Lim Wong

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience. That makes me feel a lot better. Did you use a tax preparer or did you do it yourself? And about how much were the penalties as a percentage of what you owed?

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Nalani Liu

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I used a local tax preparer who advertised help with unfiled returns. Cost me about $175 per year to prepare, but it was worth every penny for the peace of mind. The penalties ended up being roughly 25% of what I owed, plus interest that had accumulated. So for example, one year I owed about $2,200 in actual taxes, and the penalties/interest added about $800. Not fun to pay, but definitely not the financial apocalypse I had built up in my head. The payment plan let me spread it out over 36 months too.

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Axel Bourke

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Has anyone else noticed that tax filings for previous years require using old tax forms? I just went through catching up 3 years of taxes and got confused because the forms change slightly year to year. Make sure you're using the correct year's forms and tax software when you file! The IRS website has previous years' forms but it can be confusing to navigate.

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Aidan Percy

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Yes! This tripped me up too. If you're using software like TurboTax or H&R Block, make sure you buy the specific year versions for each past year. Current year software won't work for prior years.

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Tax implications of giving a large gift to my unmarried partner who is a 1099 contractor for my business

I'm in a pretty unusual situation and can't find anyone online with the same circumstances. My girlfriend and I have 3 kids together, but we keep everything separate financially - we file taxes separately, have our own bank accounts, the whole deal. We're doing some financial planning lately (life insurance, will, etc.) because she's worried about what would happen to her if something happened to me. I want to gift her about $400K so she has her own financial security and doesn't have to rely completely on me. On its own this seems straightforward since I'm nowhere near my lifetime gift tax exemption limit. But here's where it gets complicated - about a year ago, I hired her as a contractor for my small business. She works part-time doing bookkeeping, invoicing, and admin stuff for about $45K annually on a 1099 basis. The rate is reasonable for the limited services she provides. I realize that if this were some random employee, gifting them a large sum would look suspicious - like I was trying to disguise compensation as a gift. But given our relationship and the numbers involved, nobody in their right mind would think I'm trying to pull some scheme where I give up $400K in potentially deductible business expenses just to pay my bookkeeper an absurd amount while ultimately paying MORE in taxes (since my tax bracket is higher than hers). Still, something makes me think I need to choose one relationship - either contractor or gift recipient. Anyone dealt with something similar or have advice?

Others have covered the gift tax aspects well, but don't forget to think about the potential future implications if your relationship changes. A $400K gift with no strings attached is just that - a gift. If you two were to split up in the future, you generally can't claim that money back. You might want to consult a family law attorney in addition to a tax professional. Some couples in your situation create agreements that clarify the nature of large gifts and what happens in various scenarios. Not saying you need this, but something to consider given the substantial amount involved.

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Jibriel Kohn

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This is a great point that I hadn't considered. We've been together for over 10 years and have the kids together, but you're right that it's always smart to think about all scenarios. Do you know if such an agreement would have any impact on how the IRS views the gift? I want to make sure anything we do on the relationship side doesn't create tax complications.

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An agreement about what happens to the gift in different scenarios shouldn't change how the IRS views the gift, as long as the gift is complete and no strings are attached at the time it's made. The key from a tax perspective is that you're not expecting anything in return. However, if the agreement makes the transfer look more like a loan or conditional payment rather than a gift, that could potentially create issues. Make sure any agreement you create clearly states that the transfer is a completed gift for tax purposes, and any terms about future scenarios don't make it conditional in a way that would undermine the gift status.

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Charlie Yang

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Quick question for anyone with experience here - if OP gives this gift, would the girlfriend need to report anything on her taxes? Or does only the giver need to file the gift tax form?

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Grace Patel

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Recipients generally don't report gifts as income or file any special forms. It's only the giver who has to file Form 709 if the gift exceeds the annual exclusion amount (currently $17,000 per person). The girlfriend would just receive the money tax-free. This is one of the nice things about gifts - the recipient has no tax consequences or reporting requirements.

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