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StarStrider

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Has anyone had this happen but with state taxes? I filed both my 2023 and 2024 MI state returns together but only got my 2024 refund. It's been 12 weeks now and nothing for 2023.

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Sean Doyle

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State tax processing is totally separate from federal, but most states also process prior year returns more slowly. Each state has their own "where's my refund" tool on their tax department website. Have you checked that?

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Zara Rashid

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I had this exact issue with CA state taxes. The current year processed normally but the prior year took almost 5 months! Different states have different processing times, but all of them handle prior year returns more slowly than current year.

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I'm dealing with something very similar right now! Filed my 2023 and 2024 returns together in March, got my 2024 refund within 3 weeks, but my 2023 return seems to have vanished. The "Where's My Refund" tool for 2023 gives me the same error message you're getting. What I've learned from calling around is that late-filed returns (like our 2023 taxes) go into a completely different processing queue that's mostly manual. They prioritize current year returns during tax season, so prior year returns can take 3-6 months to process. The automated tracking systems often don't work properly for these returns until they're fully processed. For penalties, if you owed money for 2023, you'll definitely get hit with late filing penalties (5% per month up to 25% max) plus interest from the original April 2024 due date. If you're getting a refund, they might still charge a late filing penalty but will just deduct it from your refund. My advice: try to create an account on IRS.gov to view your tax transcripts - this sometimes shows more info than the refund tracker. And honestly, don't stress too much about the lack of communication yet. It sounds like your return is just sitting in the manual processing queue, which is totally normal for late-filed returns.

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This is really helpful info, thank you! I'm actually in almost the exact same boat - filed both years together and only the current year processed. One question though: when you say they "might still charge a late filing penalty" even for refunds, is that only if you were legally required to file? I thought if you're getting money back, there's no penalty for filing late since you don't owe them anything. Or am I missing something here?

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I've been through a couple IRS audits over the years (nothing dramatic - just some business expense questions), and I can share what I learned about their timing. For my first audit in 2019, they only went back 2 years from when they contacted me. The second one in 2021 went back the full 3 years, but that was because I had some rental property income they wanted to verify. From talking to the agents, it seems like they rarely go beyond 3 years unless there's a red flag or they find something suspicious during the initial review. For regular W-2 folks with standard deductions, 3-4 years is probably fine, but I personally keep 7 years now just because those audits were stressful enough without worrying about missing documents! One tip - if you do get audited, having everything organized digitally makes the process SO much easier. I spent hours digging through paper files the first time, but the second audit was much smoother because I had scanned copies of everything organized by year and category.

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Carmen Vega

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Thanks for sharing your actual audit experience Connor! That's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through it. The fact that they stayed within 3 years even for rental property gives me more confidence about the timeframes everyone's discussing. Your point about digital organization is spot on - I'm definitely going to start scanning my returns going forward. It sounds like whether you keep 3 years or 7 years, having everything easily accessible is just as important as having it at all. Did the IRS agents give you any sense of what initially flagged your returns for audit? I'm always curious what actually triggers their attention, especially for the business expense questions you mentioned.

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This is such a timely question! I just went through this exact dilemma last month when cleaning out my home office. After reading through IRS Publication 552 and talking to my CPA, I settled on keeping 7 years for peace of mind. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're self-employed or have a business, the rules can be different. The IRS recommends keeping employment tax records for at least 4 years after the tax becomes due or is paid, whichever is later. And if you have employees, you need to keep those records even longer. For disposal, I ended up doing a combination approach - took the really old stuff (10+ years) to a community shred event like Seraphina mentioned, and for the more recent ones I'm transitioning to digital storage first, then shredding the originals after scanning. That way I have the convenience of digital access but still meet the retention requirements. The community shred event was amazing by the way - they had industrial shredders that could handle a banker's box in about 30 seconds. Much better than my home shredder that would have taken me weeks!

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Amun-Ra Azra

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Thanks Liam! This is really helpful information about the business/self-employment angle. I'm actually a freelance graphic designer so I have a mix of 1099s and business expenses that I wasn't sure about. The 4-year rule for employment tax records is good to know - I'll definitely need to factor that in when I'm deciding what to keep. Your combination approach sounds smart too. I like the idea of scanning recent returns for convenience while still meeting the physical retention requirements. Did you use any particular scanning app or just a regular scanner? I'm wondering if phone apps are good enough quality for tax documents or if I should invest in a proper scanner. The industrial shredders at those community events sound incredible! I'm definitely going to look for one in my area. My home shredder overheats after like 10 pages and I have boxes of old paperwork to get through.

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Ethan Brown

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You might wanna check if someone claimed you as a dependent maybe? My cousin had something similar happen and it turned out her parents had claimed her on their taxes even though she was filing independently. Could be worth asking family members?

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Omar Zaki

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I'm 39 and haven't lived with my parents since college, so that's not it. But thanks for the suggestion! I called the Treasury Offset number that was suggested earlier, and it turns out they took part of my refund for an old unpaid parking ticket that went to collections years ago. I completely forgot about it and apparently it increased dramatically with fees! The crazy thing is the original ticket was only $75 but with all the fees and interest it grew to over $4000. Definitely a tough lesson learned about handling tickets promptly.

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Paolo Ricci

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Wow, that's a perfect example of how these small debts can spiral out of control! A $75 parking ticket growing to over $4,000 is absolutely insane but unfortunately very common with municipal collections. For anyone else reading this thread, this is why it's so important to address any tickets, fines, or government notices immediately - even if they seem small. Once they go to collections, the fees and interest can multiply the original debt by 10x or more. Omar, you might want to contact the original issuing agency (probably your city or county) to see if they have any hardship programs or payment plans. Sometimes they'll reduce the collection fees if you can pay the original amount plus reasonable costs. It's worth a shot since $4,000 for a parking ticket is pretty excessive. Also, make sure to get documentation of the payment once you resolve this so it doesn't happen again next year!

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Tami Morgan

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Back on March 15th, I called the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line about this exact issue. They confirmed that the 14-digit control number is assigned during the e-filing process and appears on your acknowledgment receipt after successful submission. The community consensus here is correct - this isn't something you need to obtain before filing. Focus on getting your 1099s submitted before the April 30th deadline instead!

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Just went through this exact situation last week! I was panicking about the same thing with my freelance income reporting. After reading through all these responses, I can confirm what everyone is saying - you literally cannot get this number ahead of time because it doesn't exist until you actually submit your forms. I was about to spend hours on hold with the IRS before I realized this. Your tax software (whether it's TaxAct, TurboTax, or whatever) will handle this automatically during the e-filing process. The control number shows up on your confirmation receipt after successful submission. Don't stress about it - just focus on getting all your contractor information entered correctly and hit submit before the deadline!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! As someone new to freelance work, this whole thread has been incredibly helpful. I was getting really stressed thinking I needed to track down this mysterious number before filing. It's reassuring to know that the software handles it automatically - I've been overthinking the whole process. Quick question though: does the confirmation receipt with the control number come immediately after submission, or does it take some time to generate?

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Zoey Bianchi

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dont forget to check wmr too. sometimes it updates b4 transcripts

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whats wmr?

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Zoey Bianchi

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Wheres My Refund on the irs website

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Just went through this same thing last week! The DLN is usually formatted like XXXXXXXX-XXX-XX and you'll see it right after the filing date. For EIC filers, make sure you also look for the 766 credit code - that's your earned income credit showing up. The transcript can be overwhelming at first but once you know what to look for it gets easier!

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NebulaNomad

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This is super helpful! I'm also new to reading transcripts and didn't know about the 766 code for EIC. Is there a specific spot on the transcript where that shows up or do I just scroll through and look for it?

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