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Has anyone used TurboTax with this same issue? I'm having the exact same problem but with TurboTax and their customer service was useless. They just said to contact SSA but didn't offer any solution for filing my taxes now.
I had this happen with TurboTax last year. What I ended up doing was printing my return and mailing it in with a copy of my birth certificate attached. It took longer to process (about 9 weeks) but it went through fine and I still got my refund. Then I fixed the SSA issue separately.
This is such a frustrating but surprisingly common issue! I work for a tax prep company and we see this all the time during filing season. The birthdate mismatch rejection usually means there's a one-day discrepancy in SSA's records, often due to clerical errors made when the SSN was originally issued. A few things that might help while you're working on getting this fixed: 1. You can still file a paper return by mail to meet the deadline - just print, sign, and send it in. The IRS will manually verify your info against your birth certificate if there are discrepancies. 2. When you go to the SSA office, bring both your original birth certificate AND a certified copy. Sometimes they need to keep documentation on file. 3. Ask the SSA rep to give you a printout or confirmation letter showing the correction was made. This can be helpful if you have issues next year or need to prove the change was processed. The whole process usually takes 2-4 weeks for the SSA and IRS systems to sync up, so you should be good to e-file next year without any problems. Hope this helps!
The whole system is a joke tbh. We shouldn't have to wait this long for OUR money π€‘
fr fr they quick to take it but slow to give it back π
Same situation here - filed in late January and still stuck on "processing" π© Been checking the VA tax website daily like it's social media at this point lol. At least now I know about the new fraud detection system causing delays. Guess we're all in this waiting game together!
Literally same! I've been refreshing that VA website like I'm waiting for concert tickets to drop π At least we're not alone in this mess. The fraud detection thing explains a lot though - better safe than sorry I guess, even if it means waiting forever for our own money back
Just wanted to chime in with some encouragement! I know getting that CP5071 notice is super stressful, but you've got this! πͺ Reading through all these responses, it sounds like everyone who stuck with the process got it resolved. A few things that haven't been mentioned yet: if you're married filing jointly, make sure your spouse is available during the call too - they might need to verify both of you. Also, I'd recommend calling from a quiet place where you can focus and take notes. The verification process can feel overwhelming but the agents really are there to help you, not to make your life difficult. One last tip - if you get disconnected or the call doesn't go well the first time, don't give up! Sometimes it just takes a second attempt with a different agent. You'll get your refund, it's just taking the scenic route! π
@Lucas Lindsey This is such a thoughtful and encouraging response! I really appreciate you mentioning the married filing jointly detail - that s'something I definitely wouldn t'have thought about and could have caused a major headache during the call. The tip about taking notes is spot on too, I can imagine there s'a lot of information to keep track of during the verification process. Thanks for the reminder that it s'okay if the first call doesn t'go perfectly - sometimes we put so much pressure on ourselves to get everything right on the first try. Your positive attitude is exactly what someone dealing with this stressful situation needs to hear! π
I just went through this exact situation a couple months ago and wanted to share what worked for me! The CP5071 notice is definitely scary at first, but it's really just the IRS being extra cautious about identity verification. Here's my step-by-step experience: I called the number on the notice at exactly 7:59am (they open at 8am) and got through after about 20 minutes on hold. The agent was actually really professional and walked me through everything patiently. They asked for my SSN, DOB, filing status, and then some questions about my tax history - like amounts from previous years' returns and addresses I've lived at in the past 3-4 years. The whole call took maybe 30-40 minutes, and my refund was released exactly 9 days later! Pro tip: have your last 2-3 years of tax returns pulled up on your computer or printed out, along with this year's return if you filed already. Also write down your address history with approximate dates beforehand. Don't panic - thousands of people go through this every year and it gets resolved! You've got this! πͺ
@CyberNinja This is incredibly detailed and helpful, thank you! I'm dealing with this exact situation right now and your timeline breakdown is really reassuring. The fact that your refund was released in just 9 days after the call gives me so much hope! I love the tip about calling at 7:59am - that's the kind of strategic thinking I need π Question: when they asked about tax history from previous years, were they looking for exact dollar amounts or just ballpark figures? I'm worried about not remembering the precise numbers from my 2022 return. Thanks again for taking the time to share such a comprehensive walkthrough of the process!
Has anyone formed an LLC just for the prototype phase? I'm wondering if I should form an LLC now to start getting these deductions, or if I can just track my expenses and form the LLC later when I'm closer to having a sellable product?
You don't actually need an LLC to claim startup deductions. I started as a sole proprietorship using just a DBA (doing business as) filing, which cost only $35 in my county. This let me open a business bank account and track expenses properly while I was in the development phase. Later converted to an LLC when I was ready to launch. The key is documenting your clear business purpose and keeping good records of all expenses. Save emails, notes from meetings, research documents - anything that shows you're seriously pursuing a business, not just a hobby.
Great question about startup costs! One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the timing aspect of when you can actually claim these deductions. You can't just spend money on prototype development and immediately deduct it - the IRS requires that your business has "begun operations" to claim startup cost deductions. For your prototype situation, here's what I learned when I went through something similar: The expenses you incur before your business begins operations are considered "startup costs" under Section 195. However, you can only deduct them in the tax year when your business actually starts operating (even if you don't have sales yet). The good news is that "beginning operations" doesn't require sales - it just means you're actively engaged in the business activity you intend to pursue. So if you're seriously developing prototypes with the intent to launch a business, that could qualify. My advice: Start keeping detailed records NOW of all prototype expenses, even if you haven't formed a business entity yet. Include invoices, receipts, and documentation of your business plan/intent. When you do officially start operations, you'll be able to claim up to $5,000 of those pre-operational costs as a current year deduction, with any excess amortized over 15 years. Also consider consulting with a tax professional about whether some of your prototype costs might qualify for R&D credits instead of (or in addition to) startup cost treatment - sometimes that can be more valuable depending on your situation.
This is really helpful clarification on the timing! I'm just getting started with my research on this topic and had been wondering about that exact issue - whether I need to wait until I'm "officially" in business to claim these deductions. Your point about documenting business intent is spot on. I've been keeping all my research notes and prototype sketches, but I should probably be more systematic about tracking expenses and creating a clearer paper trail of my business development process. Quick follow-up question - when you say "actively engaged in business activity," does that include things like market research, competitor analysis, and talking to potential customers? Or does it need to be more concrete like actually manufacturing prototypes?
Liam O'Connor
Hey, just wanted to add another perspective. We had the same issue in 2022 and ended up owing about $5k in healthcare subsidies. We didn't know about the income threshold either until it was too late. What we did was amend our tax return to include some overlooked deductions (home office for self-employment, some business expenses we initially thought weren't deductible). This brought our MAGI down juuuust enough to qualify for the repayment cap. Ended up paying back only about $2,700 instead of the full amount. Definitely talk to your tax person about any possible deductions you might have missed!
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Amara Adeyemi
β’This is exactly what I was going to suggest. Look at HSA contributions too - you can actually make those up until the tax filing deadline (including extensions!) and they'll count for the previous year. Could help reduce MAGI enough to hit that cap threshold.
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StarSurfer
β’That's really helpful, thank you! We definitely have some business expenses from our side gigs that we might not have fully accounted for. And I had no idea about being able to make HSA contributions even now for last year. Will definitely look into all of this before we finalize our return!
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Giovanni Gallo
One thing nobody mentioned yet is that the marketplace subsidies are totally separate from the Premium Tax Credit you calculate on your return. If you can show that your income increase was unpredictable (like your bonus or sudden business growth), you might qualify for the IRC Section 6662 "reasonable cause" exception for the underpayment penalty. It won't help with paying back the actual subsidy, but could save you hundreds in penalties. Just make sure to include a detailed letter explaining the circumstances with your return.
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Fatima Al-Mazrouei
β’Is this really true? I thought the marketplace subsidies ARE the advance payment of the Premium Tax Credit. They're the same thing, just paid in advance based on your estimate. Am I missing something?
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Cole Roush
β’You're absolutely right - the marketplace subsidies are advance payments of the Premium Tax Credit. I think Giovanni might be confusing some terminology here. The reconciliation happens on Form 8962 where you compare what you received in advance versus what you were actually eligible for based on final income. However, the "reasonable cause" exception for penalties is still valid advice. If you can demonstrate that the income increase was unexpected and not due to negligence, you might avoid accuracy-related penalties. But it won't change the actual subsidy repayment amount - that's based purely on the income thresholds.
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