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Quick question - does anyone know if the address is different if you're filing 843 for something OTHER than Social Security overpayment? I need to submit one for a penalty abatement request.
Yes, the address can differ based on the reason for filing Form 843. For penalty abatement requests, you should send it to the same IRS service center where you'd file your regular tax return. If you've already submitted your return, send it to the same service center where you filed. If you haven't filed yet, use the address listed in your tax return instructions based on your state. The IRS has different service centers for different regions of the country.
I went through this exact same situation last year with overpaid Social Security taxes from two jobs. The Kansas City address that Muhammad mentioned is correct for New Jersey. One thing I wish someone had told me - make sure to calculate your overpayment carefully before submitting. The Social Security wage base for 2024 was $160,200, so if your combined wages from both employers exceeded that amount, you likely overpaid. The excess Social Security tax rate is 6.2%, so multiply the amount over the wage base by 0.062 to get your refund amount. Also, don't forget to attach a statement explaining why you believe you overpaid - the IRS processes these much faster when they have a clear explanation. I got my refund in about 10 weeks, which was faster than I expected. Good luck!
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm definitely in the overpayment situation since my combined wages were around $175,000 between the two jobs. Quick math question - when you say multiply the excess by 0.062, do I use the full amount over $160,200 or do I need to account for the fact that each employer was withholding Social Security tax separately? I want to make sure I'm calculating this correctly before I submit the form.
Have you considered what would happen if you need these transcripts during tax season? The IRS systems get incredibly bogged down between February and April, don't they? What if you need immediate access for something time-sensitive like a loan application or audit response? The mail option can take weeks during peak periods, and the online system often crashes when volume is high. It might be worth setting up access now while the systems aren't overwhelmed.
Great point about timing! I learned this the hard way when I waited until March to request transcripts for a refinance. The IRS processing times went from 5-10 business days to nearly 6 weeks. My loan officer wasn't happy, and we almost missed our rate lock. Now I always tell people to get their transcript access set up in the fall when systems are running smoothly. Plus, having that access year-round means you can monitor for identity theft or processing issues without waiting for snail mail. The peace of mind is worth the initial setup hassle with ID.me verification.
This is such valuable advice that I wish I'd known earlier! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now - trying to get our transcripts for a mortgage application and it's taking forever because I waited until the busy season. The ID.me verification process was confusing at first, but you're absolutely right that it's worth setting up when there's no time pressure. Do you happen to know if there's a way to get notifications when new transcripts become available, or do you just have to check periodically?
Has anyone successfully claimed a deduction for JUST the materials portion of a combined job? Our company did something similar ($55k project, about $35k materials and $20k labor) and I'm worried about how to document this correctly without raising audit flags.
Yes! We did exactly this last year. The key is proper documentation. We created a detailed invoice showing the full project costs, then specifically marked the materials that were donated. We got the non-profit to provide an acknowledgment letter specifically for the materials (valued at fair market value). We also took photos of all the donated materials.
Make sure your invoice and documentation clearly separates the materials from labor. I'd also recommend having the non-profit explicitly acknowledge receiving the materials as a donation separate from any services. Our accountant suggested creating two separate transactions - one for the labor we charged and another for the materials we donated.
Based on my experience handling similar situations for construction companies, I can confirm what others have mentioned - you can deduct the materials but not the labor portion. However, I want to add a crucial point that hasn't been fully addressed yet. Since your materials were valued at $28,000 (over $5,000), you'll need a qualified appraisal for the non-cash contribution. The appraiser needs to be independent and meet IRS qualifications. Don't use your own internal valuations or supplier quotes - the IRS is very strict about this for larger donations. Also, timing matters for S-Corps. Make sure the donation was actually completed in 2024 (meaning the non-profit took possession of the materials and you have their acknowledgment letter dated in 2024). The deduction flows through to shareholders' K-1s based on ownership percentages. One more tip: keep detailed records of your material costs, purchase receipts, and any delivery documentation. If you're ever audited, the IRS will want to see the complete paper trail showing how you arrived at the $28,000 valuation and that the materials were actually transferred to the non-profit.
This is really helpful information about the appraisal requirements! I'm curious though - when you say "qualified appraisal," does this need to be done by a certified appraiser, or can it be someone with specific expertise in construction materials? Also, is there a time limit on when the appraisal needs to be completed relative to when the donation was made? I want to make sure we don't miss any deadlines if we haven't gotten this done yet.
Great question about the appraisal requirements! For IRS purposes, a "qualified appraiser" must be someone who has earned an appraisal designation from a recognized professional organization OR has met specific education/experience requirements outlined in IRS regulations. For construction materials, this could be a certified appraiser who specializes in building materials, equipment, or real estate improvements - they don't necessarily need to be a general certified appraiser. Regarding timing, the appraisal must be conducted no earlier than 60 days before the donation date and no later than the due date (including extensions) of the return on which the deduction is first claimed. So if you donated in 2024 and are filing by the typical S-Corp deadline, you still have time to get this done, but don't delay too long. The appraiser will need to complete Form 8283 Section B and provide a detailed appraisal report. Make sure they understand this is for a charitable donation so they value the materials at fair market value, not replacement cost or wholesale cost.
This is really helpful information everyone! I'm leaning toward the actual expense method since I'll be using a truck with higher operating costs. Quick clarification question - when you mention keeping detailed mileage logs, should I be recording odometer readings at the start and end of each business trip, or is just noting the total miles sufficient? And for mixed trips (like going to the post office but also stopping for gas), do I need to calculate the exact business portion or can I count the whole trip if the primary purpose was business? Also @Lena Kowalski, that Section 179 tip is gold! I'm looking at trucks in that weight range specifically for hauling inventory, so that could be a game changer for my first year deductions.
For mileage logs, you don't need odometer readings for every single trip - just recording the total business miles per trip is sufficient as long as you include the date, destination, and business purpose. However, you should record your odometer reading at the beginning and end of each tax year to establish your total annual mileage for calculating business use percentage. For mixed trips, if the primary purpose is business, you can generally count the entire trip as business mileage. The IRS looks at the "primary purpose" test - so your post office trip with a gas stop would be fully deductible since shipping products is clearly the main reason for the trip. One pro tip: consider using your phone's location services or a GPS app to automatically track your routes. This creates a digital trail that can support your mileage log if you're ever questioned. Apps like Google Timeline can be really helpful for reconstructing forgotten trips when you're updating your records. @Alexander Zeus The Section 179 deduction can be massive for business vehicles, but make sure you run the numbers both ways since you might also benefit from bonus depreciation depending on when you purchase the truck.
Great discussion here! One additional point that might be relevant for your LLC - make sure you're familiar with the "luxury vehicle" depreciation limits if your truck costs over a certain threshold (around $64,000 for 2024). These limits can significantly impact your actual expense deductions and might make the standard mileage deduction more attractive in some cases, even for trucks. Also, since you mentioned this is your first year switching to actual expenses, remember that once you choose the actual expense method for a vehicle, you're generally locked into that method for the life of that vehicle. You can't switch back to standard mileage later. So it's worth doing the math carefully for your expected usage patterns over the next several years, not just year one. One more thing - if you're planning to finance the truck, the interest on the business portion of the loan is also deductible as a business expense when using the actual expense method. This can add up to significant savings over the life of the loan.
Jacob Smithson
Don't forget that as a non-resident alien, you can't file jointly with a US spouse if you have one! My buddy got absolutely wrecked by this rule last year. He's from UK, married to American, and they filed jointly which is a big no-no. IRS rejected everything and he had to refile as married filing separately on 1040-NR. Also, the tax rate depends on visa type too sometimes. What visa are you on? That can change everything.
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NeonNova
ā¢I'm coming on an L-1 visa for this intracompany transfer. I'm not married, so at least I won't have that joint filing issue! Do you know if L-1 has any special tax rules I should watch out for? My company's HR didn't mention anything specific.
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Jacob Smithson
ā¢L-1 visa holders follow the same substantial presence test as others - if you're in the US for less than 183 days in the year, you're typically a non-resident alien for tax purposes. But be super careful with counting days if you visit the US frequently! For L-1, watch out for tax home issues since you're on intracompany transfer. If your tax home remains in Germany, you might qualify for foreign earned income exclusion on part of your income. Also, some moving expenses related to your L-1 assignment might be deductible - the rules changed after 2018, but there are still some provisions for foreign transfers. Keep very detailed records of all your travel dates in and out of the US - that'll be critical for determining your exact tax status.
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Isabella Brown
Quick question - I need to understand how tax treaties work for non-residents. I'm from India working in US, but all the tax software I try doesn't seem to handle non-resident status with treaty benefits properly. Any recommendations?
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Maya Patel
ā¢Most regular tax software struggles with non-resident returns. I've had good luck with Sprintax which specializes in non-resident returns, but it's still not perfect with all treaty provisions. For India specifically, Article 21 of the US-India tax treaty has special provisions for students and business apprentices that can reduce your tax liability. Article 12 covers royalties with a reduced 15% rate, and Article 11 addresses interest income with a 15% rate instead of the standard 30% for non-treaty countries.
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Isabella Brown
ā¢Thanks for the Sprintax recommendation, I'll check it out. I'm particularly concerned about my dividend income from US stocks - I've heard there's a reduced withholding rate under the treaty but wasn't sure how to claim it. Sounds like I need to look into those specific articles you mentioned. Do you know if I need to file any special forms to claim these treaty benefits? My employer withholds at standard rates and I'm worried I'm overpaying.
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