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Has anyone tried requesting penalty abatement for first-time penalties? I heard the IRS has some program for this but don't know if it applies to multiple years of unfiled returns.

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Peyton Clarke

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Yes! It's called First Time Penalty Abatement. I got approved for it last year after not filing for 2 years (independent contractor). You need to have a clean compliance history for the 3 years before the first year you're requesting abatement for. You file all your returns first, then request the abatement by calling the IRS or submitting a letter. They waived about $1,800 in penalties for me, though I still had to pay the interest.

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Zoe Papadakis

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I was in almost the exact same boat as you about 2 years ago - 4 years of unfiled taxes as a freelance web developer, around the same income range, complete anxiety spiral every tax season. I know how overwhelming this feels, but you CAN get through this. Here's what I wish someone had told me: the IRS is actually pretty reasonable when you voluntarily come forward. I ended up owing about $18,000 total including penalties across all years, but I got on a payment plan for $285/month and they even approved partial penalty abatement later. My biggest mistake was waiting so long because I thought it would be "too complicated" - but once I actually started gathering documents and filing, it wasn't nearly as bad as the anxiety made it seem. Start with whatever records you have, even if they're messy. Bank statements can substitute for missing receipts in many cases. One thing that really helped me was setting up a dedicated workspace just for tax stuff and tackling one year at a time. Don't try to do everything at once or you'll get overwhelmed again. You've already taken the hardest step by deciding to fix this - the rest is just paperwork and patience. You've got this! Future you will thank present you for finally addressing it.

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Lucas Turner

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This is so reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through the same situation! The $285/month payment plan sounds way more manageable than I was imagining. Can I ask how long your payment plan is for? And when you mentioned partial penalty abatement - was that something you requested after getting on the payment plan, or did you ask for it upfront when filing everything? I'm definitely going to try your approach of tackling one year at a time. The idea of setting up a dedicated workspace just for this makes so much sense - I keep avoiding it partly because I don't want tax stress contaminating my regular work area where I'm trying to earn money to pay for this mess!

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Caden Turner

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Dont forget about state taxes too!! Depending on your state, you might owe significant state taxes on that gain. Some states give preferential rates to capital gains, but many tax them as ordinary income at the state level.

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This is super important. I'm in California and got destroyed on state taxes for a property sale because CA taxes capital gains as ordinary income at rates up to 13.3%. Make sure you check your state's rules!

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Great thread everyone! As someone who went through a similar situation with a large inherited property sale, I want to emphasize a few key points that have been mentioned: 1. **Form 8949 β†’ Schedule D β†’ Form 1040 flow is correct** - Don't try to separate them. The tax software/worksheets handle the preferential rates automatically. 2. **Definitely make estimated payments** - With a gain that large, you're looking at roughly $1.5M+ in total taxes (federal + NIIT + state). The underpayment penalties on that amount would be painful. 3. **State taxes vary wildly** - Some states have no capital gains tax, others treat it as ordinary income. This could easily add another $500K+ to your tax bill depending on your state. 4. **Consider tax-loss harvesting** - If you have any other investments with losses, now might be the time to realize them to offset part of this gain. One additional tip: if this was inherited property, make sure you're using the stepped-up basis from the date of inheritance, not your grandparents' original purchase price. That could save you hundreds of thousands in taxes if the property appreciated significantly while they owned it. With this much money involved, definitely get professional help - either a CPA who specializes in high-net-worth situations or use multiple verification methods like the tools others mentioned. Better to spend a few thousand on professional advice than make a costly mistake!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for breaking it all down so clearly! The stepped-up basis point is especially important. I actually need to go back and verify I'm using the correct basis from when my grandparents passed away rather than what they originally paid for the property decades ago. One quick follow-up question - you mentioned tax-loss harvesting. Is there a limit to how much of the capital gain I can offset with losses? I do have some underperforming stocks I've been holding onto, but I wasn't sure if there were restrictions on offsetting such a large gain. Also, does anyone know if there are any timing considerations for when I realize those losses? Should I do it before year-end, or does it matter as long as it's within the same tax year as the property sale?

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StarSurfer

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16 Has anyone dealt with the IRS sending notices after filing late? I'm worried that even after I file, I'll start getting threatening letters in the mail.

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StarSurfer

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4 If you're owed a refund, you probably won't get any notices at all - just your refund! I filed 2 years late once (also was owed a refund) and just got my check about 6 weeks later, no scary letters.

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Don't beat yourself up about this - it happens to more people than you'd think! I work as a tax preparer and see late filers regularly. The key thing is that you're taking action now. Since you mentioned you're likely owed a refund, you're in a much better position than someone who owes money. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. Gather all your 2023 tax documents (W-2s, 1099s, receipts for deductions, etc.) 2. File your return as soon as possible - you can use the same tax software you'd normally use 3. Don't worry about requesting an extension now since you're already past the deadline One thing to keep in mind: if you had any estimated tax payments or withholding that resulted in overpayment, you want to file sooner rather than later. While you have 3 years to claim a refund, getting your money back faster is always better. The IRS processes late returns the same way as on-time returns when you're due a refund, so you should receive your refund within the normal timeframe (usually 6-8 weeks for paper returns, faster for e-filed returns). You've got this! Just take it one step at a time and you'll be back on track.

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Thank you so much for the reassurance! It's really helpful to hear from someone who works in tax preparation. Just to clarify - when you say I can use the same tax software, do I need to specifically look for a "prior year" version or will the regular 2023 tax software still be available? I'm worried that since we're already in 2025, the 2023 versions might not be accessible anymore.

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As someone who recently went through a similar situation with inherited farmland, I'd strongly recommend getting multiple perspectives before making your decision. The $12,000 annual rental income you're receiving works out to about $185 per acre, which is actually pretty competitive for central Illinois. Before switching to CRP, consider that you'd be locking yourself into a 10-15 year contract. While CRP payments might be similar or slightly higher, you lose the flexibility to adjust rental rates or change land use as market conditions evolve. Farm rental rates have been increasing in many areas, so your current arrangement might become more valuable over time. Also, don't forget that your current rental income is truly passive - the tenant farmer handles all the work and maintenance. With CRP, you'll have ongoing responsibilities for conservation compliance and maintenance that could eat into your returns. I'd suggest getting quotes from both your FSA office for CRP rates and from a few other local farmers for rental rates before making your final decision. This way you can make an informed choice based on actual numbers rather than speculation.

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This is excellent advice about getting multiple perspectives! I'm actually in a very similar situation - just inherited 40 acres in Iowa and have been renting it out for two years. The flexibility aspect you mentioned is something I hadn't really considered seriously before. My current tenant has been great about maintaining the land and even made some improvements to the drainage without me having to invest anything. Reading through this thread has made me realize that while CRP might offer environmental benefits, the hands-off nature of my current rental arrangement has real value too. I think I'll follow your suggestion and get actual quotes from both FSA and a few other local farmers before making any major decisions. It's reassuring to hear from someone who's been through this process recently - thanks for sharing your perspective!

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the Wildlife Habitat Incentive Program (WHIP) and the Environmental Quality Incentives Program (EQIP) - these might be alternatives worth exploring alongside CRP. Since your land is highly erodible, you might qualify for cost-share programs that allow you to continue renting while implementing conservation practices. This could give you the best of both worlds - maintaining your rental income while receiving additional payments for conservation improvements. Also, given that you're in central Illinois, check if your county participates in any state-level conservation programs. Illinois has some additional incentive programs that can supplement federal programs and might offer more flexibility than a long-term CRP commitment. I'd recommend contacting both your local FSA office and your county's Soil and Water Conservation District - they often have different programs available and can help you understand all your options before committing to any single approach.

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Andre Dupont

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This is really helpful information about the alternative programs! I hadn't heard of WHIP or EQIP before. The idea of being able to continue renting while still getting conservation payments sounds like it could be the perfect compromise for my situation. Since I'm pretty new to all of this and live in the city, I'm wondering - when you contact the Soil and Water Conservation District, do they typically do site visits to assess what conservation practices might work? And do these cost-share programs have the same long-term commitment requirements as CRP, or are they more flexible? I really appreciate you mentioning these options because I was starting to feel like it was an either/or decision between my current rental arrangement and CRP enrollment.

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Ava Garcia

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Does using TurboTax make handling crypto taxes easier? I've got some Ethereum I bought last year but I also did a small amount of trading between different coins. Not sure if I should use TurboTax or maybe try a more specialized crypto tax software?

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Miguel Silva

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In my experience, if you only have a few simple transactions, TurboTax can handle it fine. But if you've done a lot of trading between different coins, you might want something more specialized. I used CoinTracker integrated with TurboTax this year and it worked well. It calculated my cost basis for all my trades and then imported directly into TurboTax. Made the whole process pretty seamless.

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Great breakdown, Jamal! This is super helpful timing since I'm about to start my 2024 taxes. I've been sitting on some Bitcoin and Dogecoin I bought last spring and had no idea how to handle that cryptocurrency question. One thing I'd add for anyone reading - make sure you keep good records of your purchase dates and amounts even if you're just buying and holding. I learned this the hard way when I couldn't find my Coinbase statements from early 2024. Even though I didn't have reportable transactions this year, having that documentation will be crucial if/when I do decide to sell in the future for calculating capital gains. Also, does anyone know if the rules are the same for crypto you receive as gifts? My brother sent me some Bitcoin for my birthday but I didn't do anything with it.

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