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One thing no one has mentioned - make sure you file in the right order! Start with the oldest year first and work forward. This is important because some tax attributes carry forward from year to year. If you have any business losses, capital losses, or credits that might carry forward, filing out of sequence can really mess things up.
This is super important! I learned this the hard way when I filed 3 years at once but did them in random order. Had to amend everything and it was a nightmare.
Really glad to hear you're getting your life back on track! Six years of unfiled returns might seem overwhelming, but it's absolutely manageable and you're taking the right step by addressing it now. A few key points to keep in mind: Since you mentioned having steady W-2 income with proper withholding, there's a good chance you may have been owed refunds for some of those years (though you can only claim refunds for the last 3 years). The penalty situation might not be as bad as you think if you don't actually owe much. Before jumping into anything, I'd suggest requesting wage and income transcripts from the IRS for each of those years - you can do this online at IRS.gov. This will show you exactly what income the IRS has on file for you and help you gather any missing documents. It's free and can really help you understand your situation before you start filing. Given your income level and the fact that you had withholding, you might be able to handle some of the simpler years yourself using tax software for prior years, but definitely consider getting professional help for at least the first year to make sure you're doing everything correctly. The peace of mind is worth it, and they can often spot opportunities for penalty abatements or other relief you might not know about. You've got this! Taking action now is the hardest part, and it sounds like you're in a much better place to handle it than you were before.
This is really solid advice! I'm in a similar situation (3 years unfiled) and had no idea about requesting those wage and income transcripts. That sounds like a great first step to see what the IRS already knows before I start panicking about what I might owe. @Samantha Hall - definitely echo what Savanna said about starting with the transcripts. It ll'give you a clearer picture before you decide whether to go the DIY route or get professional help. And honestly, it sounds like you re'handling this way better than I am - at least you kept all your W-2s! I m'still hunting through boxes trying to find mine.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of understanding how partnership distributions affect your basis calculation. I learned this the hard way when I received a large distribution from one of my real estate partnerships last year. When you receive distributions from the partnership, they reduce your tax basis but don't necessarily change your capital account. If your distributions exceed your basis, you could have immediate taxable gain even if the partnership itself is profitable and your capital account is positive. This is another reason why tracking your actual basis (not just relying on the capital account) is so important. I almost missed a taxable distribution because I was only looking at my capital account balance on the K-1, which showed I still had plenty of "equity" in the partnership. Your partnership agreement should specify how distributions are allocated and whether they're considered returns of capital or something else. Make sure you understand this before you receive any large distributions, especially if you're planning to take money out for other investments.
This is such an important point that I wish I had understood earlier! I had a similar situation where I received what I thought was a "profit distribution" from my partnership, but it turned out to be a return of capital that reduced my basis below zero. The tricky part is that the timing of when you receive the distribution vs when the K-1 is issued can make it really confusing. I got a distribution in December but didn't get my K-1 until March, so I had no idea it was going to create a taxable event. Does anyone know if there's a way to estimate your basis during the year so you can plan for distributions better? It seems like waiting until you get the K-1 to find out the tax consequences is too late for planning purposes.
Great question about tracking basis during the year for distribution planning! I've found a few approaches that work well: 1. **Quarterly basis estimates**: I created a simple spreadsheet that tracks my beginning basis, then adds/subtracts items as they occur during the year. I add my estimated share of partnership income (based on monthly/quarterly reports from the partnership) and subtract any distributions I receive. 2. **Partnership reporting**: Better-managed partnerships will often provide quarterly or semi-annual statements that include estimated basis calculations for each partner. If your partnership doesn't do this, it might be worth asking them to start - especially for partnerships with active distribution policies. 3. **Conservative cushion approach**: Since distributions that exceed basis create immediate taxable gain, I always assume my basis is lower than my rough calculations suggest. I try to keep a cushion of at least 20-30% of any planned distributions in my estimated basis before taking money out. The key is getting regular financial reports from your partnership so you can estimate current year income/losses. Most real estate partnerships should be providing at least quarterly updates on property performance, which you can use to estimate your share of partnership income for basis calculations. It's definitely not perfect, but it beats the surprise of finding out in March that your December distribution created taxable income!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to partnership investments and just received my first K-1 last month. The quarterly basis tracking spreadsheet idea sounds perfect for my situation since I have distributions scheduled throughout the year. Quick question about the "conservative cushion approach" - when you say keep 20-30% cushion, do you mean you avoid taking distributions if they would use more than 70-80% of your estimated basis? I want to make sure I understand this correctly since I definitely don't want any surprise taxable events. Also, is there a standard format or template you'd recommend for the tracking spreadsheet? I'm decent with Excel but not sure what columns/calculations would be most important to include for partnership basis tracking.
just make sure u keep checking ur mail. i verified my identity online in May and thought i was good to go, but then they mailed me ANOTHER form to fill out two weeks later. the IRS is notorious for not communicating between departments.
I went through identity verification last month and it took exactly 6 weeks to get my refund, so definitely faster than the 9 weeks they quoted. The Where's My Refund tool updated after about 3 weeks showing "still processing" and then suddenly switched to "refund approved" one day. Definitely get that IP PIN - it's super easy to set up and gives you peace of mind. I wish I had done it years ago. The whole verification process is stressful enough without worrying about someone else filing under your SSN. One thing I learned is that the 9 weeks is their worst-case scenario timeframe. Most people seem to get their refunds within 4-6 weeks if there are no other issues with their return. Just be patient and don't stress too much about calling - the confirmation screen you got means everything went through properly.
This is really reassuring to hear! 6 weeks sounds much more reasonable than 9. I'm definitely going to set up the IP PIN today - seems like everyone who has it recommends it. Thanks for sharing your timeline, it helps to hear from someone who actually went through this recently. Did you notice any specific updates in Where's My Refund before it switched to approved, or did it just change suddenly?
As someone who's dealt with similar Schedule C loss concerns, I want to emphasize that the IRS hobby loss rule is really about demonstrating genuine business intent rather than just hitting specific profit targets. The fact that you paused operations in 2023 due to your partner's illness actually works in your favor - it shows you made rational business decisions rather than blindly continuing to generate losses. A few key points for your Colorado restart: 1. **Documentation is everything** - Keep detailed records of your business activities, not just expenses. Time logs, client communications, market research, networking events all help prove business intent. 2. **The 5-year window is flexible** - Since you had legitimate business reasons for the pause, and you're essentially restarting with new equipment and location, you have a strong case that this demonstrates serious business commitment. 3. **Depreciation strategy matters** - While depreciation does count toward your loss calculation, bonus depreciation on legitimate business equipment actually supports your case for having a real business with substantial investment. 4. **Consider professional consultation** - Given that you're in year 3 with a restart, it might be worth having a tax professional review your specific situation to ensure you're positioning everything correctly for IRS scrutiny. The key is showing this is a legitimate business venture, not a tax-loss hobby. Your equipment investment and strategic restart suggest you're on the right track!
This is really solid advice, especially the point about documentation beyond just expenses. I'm curious though - when you mention keeping time logs and client communications, how detailed should these be? Should I be logging every hour spent on business activities, or is a weekly summary sufficient? I'm also wondering about the market research documentation. Since I'm restarting in a new state, I've been doing research on Colorado market conditions and competitors. Should I be formally documenting this research process, or are things like saved web articles and notes sufficient to show business intent? One last question - you mentioned bonus depreciation supporting the case for having a real business. Does this mean I should lean into taking the full bonus depreciation on my $14k equipment purchase rather than spreading it out over several years? I want to make sure I'm positioning this correctly from both a tax strategy and hobby loss prevention perspective.
Clay, I've been following this thread and wanted to add some practical perspective from someone who went through an IRS audit specifically related to Schedule C losses and the hobby rule. First, yes - depreciation absolutely counts when determining profit/loss for the 2-of-5 year rule. However, the IRS isn't just mechanically applying this test. They're looking at the totality of circumstances to determine if you have a genuine profit motive. Your situation actually has several positive factors: 1) You made a rational business decision to pause operations in 2023 due to your partner's illness (this shows business judgment, not hobby behavior), 2) You're making a substantial equipment investment ($14k shows serious commitment), and 3) You're strategically relocating and restarting (again, shows business planning). Here's what I learned from my audit experience: Keep contemporaneous records of everything business-related. Don't just track expenses - document your business activities, decision-making process, market research, and efforts to improve profitability. The IRS agent specifically asked about my business plan and whether I had adjusted my approach based on prior losses. For your equipment depreciation, taking bonus depreciation can actually strengthen your case because it demonstrates significant business investment. Just make sure you can justify the business necessity of the equipment. Since you're essentially restarting in Colorado, this could be a good time to formalize your business structure (LLC, etc.) and create a detailed business plan showing how you'll achieve profitability within 2-3 years. The IRS gives more credibility to businesses that show they've learned from past losses and adjusted their approach accordingly. Bottom line: Document your business intent thoroughly, and you should be fine even with continued losses in the short term.
This is incredibly valuable insight from someone who's actually been through the audit process! I'm really curious about the business plan aspect you mentioned - when the IRS agent asked about your business plan, were they looking for a formal written document, or more about your ability to articulate your strategy and show you'd learned from previous losses? Also, you mentioned documenting the decision-making process - could you give an example of what that looked like in practice? I want to make sure I'm capturing the right level of detail as I restart operations in Colorado. The point about bonus depreciation strengthening the case is really helpful. I was worried it might look suspicious to take such a large depreciation hit in my restart year, but it sounds like it actually demonstrates serious business commitment. Thanks for sharing your audit experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world perspective that's hard to find elsewhere!
LunarEclipse
I've dealt with this exact situation multiple times! The "cost basis not reported to the IRS" checkbox is actually pretty common, especially for stocks purchased before 2011 when brokers weren't required to track cost basis for all securities. Here's what you should do: Use your own records to determine the cost basis and report it accurately on your tax return. When you enter these transactions in TurboTax, look for the option that says something like "Cost basis not reported to IRS" or similar - they have specific fields for this scenario. A few important points: - This won't trigger an audit just because the basis wasn't reported to the IRS - Make sure your sale proceeds match exactly what's on the 1099-B - Keep any documentation you have of your original purchase prices - If you're missing some records, try logging into your Fidelity account to see if you can access older statements or trade confirmations The key is to make a good faith effort to report the correct cost basis. Don't stress too much about this - it's a very routine situation that the IRS deals with constantly. Just be honest and thorough with your record-keeping.
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Harmony Love
ā¢This is really helpful, thanks! Just to clarify - when you say "make a good faith effort," does that mean I can estimate if I can't find the exact purchase price? For example, if I remember buying a stock around a certain date but can't find the confirmation, can I look up what the price was that week and use that? I'm worried about being too far off from what I actually paid.
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Anastasia Kozlov
ā¢Yes, that's exactly what "good faith effort" means! If you remember approximately when you bought the stock, you can absolutely look up historical prices for that timeframe and use a reasonable estimate. Many financial websites like Yahoo Finance, Google Finance, or your broker's platform have historical price charts going back years. Here's what I'd suggest: Look up the stock price for the week or month you think you bought it, and use either the closing price from the day you remember purchasing, or if you're not sure of the exact day, use an average price from that period. Document how you arrived at that number (like "estimated based on AAPL closing price of $150 on approximately 3/15/2019") and keep that note with your tax records. The IRS understands that perfect records aren't always available, especially for older transactions. As long as you're not wildly inflating your cost basis to avoid taxes, a reasonable estimate based on historical research is totally acceptable. The key is showing you made an honest attempt to determine the correct amount rather than just guessing randomly.
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Benjamin Kim
This is such a common situation - you're definitely not alone in dealing with this! I went through the exact same thing with my Vanguard account last year and was equally stressed about it. The good news is that TurboTax handles this scenario really well. When you get to the investment section, there's a specific workflow for entering 1099-B transactions where the cost basis wasn't reported. You'll see checkboxes or dropdown options that let you indicate this situation, and then you can enter your own cost basis data. A couple of practical tips that helped me: - Double-check that your sale proceeds match the 1099-B exactly (that's the number the IRS definitely has) - If you use Fidelity's website, try looking under "Accounts & Trade" > "Account Features" > "History" - they often have trade confirmations going back several years - For any missing records, I created a simple spreadsheet showing how I estimated each cost basis with notes like "researched historical price on MarketWatch for approximate purchase date" The "cost basis not reported" checkbox is actually the IRS telling you they expect YOU to provide this information, not a warning that something's wrong. You're doing exactly what you're supposed to do by using your own records. Just make sure to keep documentation of how you determined your numbers, and you'll be fine!
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Aidan Hudson
ā¢This is exactly the reassurance I needed! I've been losing sleep over this thinking I was doing something wrong. Your tip about checking Fidelity's history section is gold - I just logged in and found most of my old trade confirmations that I thought were lost forever. For the few transactions where I still can't find exact records, I'm going to follow your spreadsheet approach. It makes me feel so much better knowing this is routine and that TurboTax has specific workflows for it. Sometimes you just need to hear from someone who's actually been through it successfully. Thanks for taking the time to share such detailed advice - you probably just saved me from paying way more in taxes than I actually owe!
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