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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of understanding how partnership distributions affect your basis calculation. I learned this the hard way when I received a large distribution from one of my real estate partnerships last year. When you receive distributions from the partnership, they reduce your tax basis but don't necessarily change your capital account. If your distributions exceed your basis, you could have immediate taxable gain even if the partnership itself is profitable and your capital account is positive. This is another reason why tracking your actual basis (not just relying on the capital account) is so important. I almost missed a taxable distribution because I was only looking at my capital account balance on the K-1, which showed I still had plenty of "equity" in the partnership. Your partnership agreement should specify how distributions are allocated and whether they're considered returns of capital or something else. Make sure you understand this before you receive any large distributions, especially if you're planning to take money out for other investments.

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Amina Sy

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This is such an important point that I wish I had understood earlier! I had a similar situation where I received what I thought was a "profit distribution" from my partnership, but it turned out to be a return of capital that reduced my basis below zero. The tricky part is that the timing of when you receive the distribution vs when the K-1 is issued can make it really confusing. I got a distribution in December but didn't get my K-1 until March, so I had no idea it was going to create a taxable event. Does anyone know if there's a way to estimate your basis during the year so you can plan for distributions better? It seems like waiting until you get the K-1 to find out the tax consequences is too late for planning purposes.

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Great question about tracking basis during the year for distribution planning! I've found a few approaches that work well: 1. **Quarterly basis estimates**: I created a simple spreadsheet that tracks my beginning basis, then adds/subtracts items as they occur during the year. I add my estimated share of partnership income (based on monthly/quarterly reports from the partnership) and subtract any distributions I receive. 2. **Partnership reporting**: Better-managed partnerships will often provide quarterly or semi-annual statements that include estimated basis calculations for each partner. If your partnership doesn't do this, it might be worth asking them to start - especially for partnerships with active distribution policies. 3. **Conservative cushion approach**: Since distributions that exceed basis create immediate taxable gain, I always assume my basis is lower than my rough calculations suggest. I try to keep a cushion of at least 20-30% of any planned distributions in my estimated basis before taking money out. The key is getting regular financial reports from your partnership so you can estimate current year income/losses. Most real estate partnerships should be providing at least quarterly updates on property performance, which you can use to estimate your share of partnership income for basis calculations. It's definitely not perfect, but it beats the surprise of finding out in March that your December distribution created taxable income!

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to partnership investments and just received my first K-1 last month. The quarterly basis tracking spreadsheet idea sounds perfect for my situation since I have distributions scheduled throughout the year. Quick question about the "conservative cushion approach" - when you say keep 20-30% cushion, do you mean you avoid taking distributions if they would use more than 70-80% of your estimated basis? I want to make sure I understand this correctly since I definitely don't want any surprise taxable events. Also, is there a standard format or template you'd recommend for the tracking spreadsheet? I'm decent with Excel but not sure what columns/calculations would be most important to include for partnership basis tracking.

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Successfully verified my IRS identity after April delay - Is "up to 9 weeks" processing time accurate? Anyone track with Where's My Refund?

Just received my identity verification letter from the IRS after waiting since April! I immediately completed the verification online and got the confirmation screen saying my return verification process was successful. I received a message that said: "Congratulations! You have successfully completed the return verification process. We now have the necessary information to continue processing your return. Processing can take up to 9 weeks." This seems crazy long! Has anyone gone through this recently? How long did it actually take for your return to finish processing after verification? The confirmation page also mentioned something about getting an IP PIN as a protective measure against tax fraud. Specifically it said: "If you don't already have an Identity Protection PIN (IP PIN), you may get an IP PIN as a proactive step to protect yourself from tax-related identity theft. An IP PIN is a six-digit number that prevents someone else from filing a tax return using your Social Security number or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. The IP PIN is known only to you and the IRS. It helps us verify your identity when you file your electronic or paper tax return. Even if you may not a have a filing requirement, an IP PIN still protects your account." Wondering if I should do that too. The confirmation page also said "If there are other issues, you may receive a notice requesting additional information that will extend the time that you'll receive your refund. You may check the status of your tax refund using Where's My Refund or the IRS2Go mobile app after 2 to 3 weeks." Planning to call tomorrow just to confirm everything went through correctly. Has anyone used the Where's My Refund tool or IRS2Go app to track their refund after verification? Did it actually show up there within 2-3 weeks like they claim?

Margot Quinn

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just make sure u keep checking ur mail. i verified my identity online in May and thought i was good to go, but then they mailed me ANOTHER form to fill out two weeks later. the IRS is notorious for not communicating between departments.

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Paolo Ricci

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I went through identity verification last month and it took exactly 6 weeks to get my refund, so definitely faster than the 9 weeks they quoted. The Where's My Refund tool updated after about 3 weeks showing "still processing" and then suddenly switched to "refund approved" one day. Definitely get that IP PIN - it's super easy to set up and gives you peace of mind. I wish I had done it years ago. The whole verification process is stressful enough without worrying about someone else filing under your SSN. One thing I learned is that the 9 weeks is their worst-case scenario timeframe. Most people seem to get their refunds within 4-6 weeks if there are no other issues with their return. Just be patient and don't stress too much about calling - the confirmation screen you got means everything went through properly.

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This is really reassuring to hear! 6 weeks sounds much more reasonable than 9. I'm definitely going to set up the IP PIN today - seems like everyone who has it recommends it. Thanks for sharing your timeline, it helps to hear from someone who actually went through this recently. Did you notice any specific updates in Where's My Refund before it switched to approved, or did it just change suddenly?

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Jamal Wilson

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As someone who's dealt with similar Schedule C loss concerns, I want to emphasize that the IRS hobby loss rule is really about demonstrating genuine business intent rather than just hitting specific profit targets. The fact that you paused operations in 2023 due to your partner's illness actually works in your favor - it shows you made rational business decisions rather than blindly continuing to generate losses. A few key points for your Colorado restart: 1. **Documentation is everything** - Keep detailed records of your business activities, not just expenses. Time logs, client communications, market research, networking events all help prove business intent. 2. **The 5-year window is flexible** - Since you had legitimate business reasons for the pause, and you're essentially restarting with new equipment and location, you have a strong case that this demonstrates serious business commitment. 3. **Depreciation strategy matters** - While depreciation does count toward your loss calculation, bonus depreciation on legitimate business equipment actually supports your case for having a real business with substantial investment. 4. **Consider professional consultation** - Given that you're in year 3 with a restart, it might be worth having a tax professional review your specific situation to ensure you're positioning everything correctly for IRS scrutiny. The key is showing this is a legitimate business venture, not a tax-loss hobby. Your equipment investment and strategic restart suggest you're on the right track!

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Libby Hassan

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This is really solid advice, especially the point about documentation beyond just expenses. I'm curious though - when you mention keeping time logs and client communications, how detailed should these be? Should I be logging every hour spent on business activities, or is a weekly summary sufficient? I'm also wondering about the market research documentation. Since I'm restarting in a new state, I've been doing research on Colorado market conditions and competitors. Should I be formally documenting this research process, or are things like saved web articles and notes sufficient to show business intent? One last question - you mentioned bonus depreciation supporting the case for having a real business. Does this mean I should lean into taking the full bonus depreciation on my $14k equipment purchase rather than spreading it out over several years? I want to make sure I'm positioning this correctly from both a tax strategy and hobby loss prevention perspective.

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AaliyahAli

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Clay, I've been following this thread and wanted to add some practical perspective from someone who went through an IRS audit specifically related to Schedule C losses and the hobby rule. First, yes - depreciation absolutely counts when determining profit/loss for the 2-of-5 year rule. However, the IRS isn't just mechanically applying this test. They're looking at the totality of circumstances to determine if you have a genuine profit motive. Your situation actually has several positive factors: 1) You made a rational business decision to pause operations in 2023 due to your partner's illness (this shows business judgment, not hobby behavior), 2) You're making a substantial equipment investment ($14k shows serious commitment), and 3) You're strategically relocating and restarting (again, shows business planning). Here's what I learned from my audit experience: Keep contemporaneous records of everything business-related. Don't just track expenses - document your business activities, decision-making process, market research, and efforts to improve profitability. The IRS agent specifically asked about my business plan and whether I had adjusted my approach based on prior losses. For your equipment depreciation, taking bonus depreciation can actually strengthen your case because it demonstrates significant business investment. Just make sure you can justify the business necessity of the equipment. Since you're essentially restarting in Colorado, this could be a good time to formalize your business structure (LLC, etc.) and create a detailed business plan showing how you'll achieve profitability within 2-3 years. The IRS gives more credibility to businesses that show they've learned from past losses and adjusted their approach accordingly. Bottom line: Document your business intent thoroughly, and you should be fine even with continued losses in the short term.

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Eva St. Cyr

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This is incredibly valuable insight from someone who's actually been through the audit process! I'm really curious about the business plan aspect you mentioned - when the IRS agent asked about your business plan, were they looking for a formal written document, or more about your ability to articulate your strategy and show you'd learned from previous losses? Also, you mentioned documenting the decision-making process - could you give an example of what that looked like in practice? I want to make sure I'm capturing the right level of detail as I restart operations in Colorado. The point about bonus depreciation strengthening the case is really helpful. I was worried it might look suspicious to take such a large depreciation hit in my restart year, but it sounds like it actually demonstrates serious business commitment. Thanks for sharing your audit experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world perspective that's hard to find elsewhere!

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NeonNova

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my Shareworks ESPP account! The key thing that helped me figure it out was looking at my actual account statements more carefully. In the fine print of my quarterly statements, I found language that specifically mentioned "Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC" as the custodian, which is clearly a US entity. Even though the mailing address and some correspondence showed Canadian addresses, the actual legal entity holding my shares was US-based. You can also check your account opening documents or look in the "Important Disclosures" section of your online account. There should be clear language about which Morgan Stanley entity is your account custodian. If it says something like "Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC" or another US LLC/Corp designation, you're dealing with a US account and no FBAR required. If you're still not 100% sure after checking these documents, definitely call their customer service line and ask them directly to confirm which legal entity is the custodian of your account. They should be able to give you a definitive answer. Better to spend 20 minutes on the phone than worry about potential FBAR penalties!

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Zara Perez

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This is really helpful! I never thought to look at the fine print of my statements. I just checked and you're absolutely right - buried in the disclosures it says "Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC" as the custodian. I was so focused on the Canadian mailing address that I completely missed this crucial detail. Thanks for pointing out exactly where to look! This saves me from having to navigate their customer service phone tree.

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StarGazer101

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I've been dealing with this exact Shareworks/FBAR question for months and finally got clarity from my CPA. The bottom line is that most Shareworks ESPP accounts maintained through Morgan Stanley are actually US accounts, even with the Canadian address confusion. Here's what I learned: When Solium was acquired by Morgan Stanley, most existing US participant accounts were transferred to Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC, which is a US entity. However, some accounts might still be held by Morgan Stanley Canada depending on when your account was established and your company's specific arrangement. The easiest way to determine this is to log into your Shareworks account online and look for the "Account Details" or "Legal Information" section. It should clearly state which Morgan Stanley entity is the custodian. If it shows any US LLC or Corp designation, you're dealing with a domestic account and no FBAR is required. One thing to be careful about - even if you determine no FBAR is needed now, keep monitoring this if Morgan Stanley makes any changes to how they hold accounts in the future. Corporate restructuring can sometimes change the legal status of where accounts are maintained. Also worth noting: the $10,000 FBAR threshold is based on the highest balance at any point during the year, not just year-end balance. So if your account briefly hit $10,001 in March but was back down to $8,000 by December, you'd still need to file if it were indeed a foreign account.

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Sasha Ivanov

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This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I was hoping to find! The point about monitoring for future changes is really important - I hadn't considered that Morgan Stanley could potentially restructure how they hold accounts down the road. Quick question about the $10,000 threshold: if my account balance fluctuates around that mark, do I need to track the daily highs, or is it sufficient to check monthly statements? I'm worried about missing the exact peak if it only briefly crosses $10k during market volatility. Also, when you mention looking for "Legal Information" in the online account - is this typically under account settings, or buried somewhere else in the interface? I've been logged into my Shareworks portal but the navigation isn't super intuitive.

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Don't forget that your 1098-T might not show the correct amount for AOTC purposes! Many schools report tuition billed in Box 2 rather than tuition paid in Box 1. For AOTC, you need to claim based on amounts paid in 2022, not amounts billed. So if you paid spring 2022 tuition in December 2021, that technically wouldn't count for 2022's AOTC calculation. Similarly, if you prepaid some 2023 expenses in December 2022, those would count for 2022 taxes.

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This trips up so many people! I'm a tax preparer and this is probably the most common mistake I see with education credits. Always check when the payment was actually made, not when the school billed you.

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Marilyn Dixon

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As someone who went through this exact situation, I can confirm you're eligible for the AOTC! Since you were enrolled as an undergraduate for the first part of 2022 and completed your degree within the traditional 4-year timeframe, you definitely qualify. The key thing to remember is that the AOTC is based on your status at the beginning of the tax year and during qualified enrollment periods. Your spring 2022 semester counts as undergraduate education, so those expenses are AOTC-eligible. Make sure you keep your records straight - only include expenses from your undergraduate program (tuition, required fees, and course materials from January-May 2022) when calculating the AOTC. Your graduate school expenses from August onward would only qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit, but since you can only claim one education credit per student per year, you'll want to calculate which option gives you the better benefit. In most cases, the AOTC's higher credit amount ($2,500 vs $2,000) and partial refundability makes it the better choice. Good luck with your taxes!

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