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Diego Flores

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Just a heads-up based on personal experience: be VERY careful with your record keeping if you're doing Roth corrections or backdoor contributions. I messed up my basis tracking over multiple years and got hit with a CP2000 notice claiming I owed taxes on conversions that should have been tax-free. It took me months to untangle everything because I didn't have proper documentation for which contributions had been withdrawn as excess vs. which ones were converted properly. Make sure you keep ALL your 5498 and 1099-R forms indefinitely!

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Thank you for that warning. I'll definitely keep better records going forward. Should I be requesting any specific forms from my IRA provider to help document the excess contribution removal? And how many years of these documents should I be keeping?

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Diego Flores

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You should specifically request a statement or letter confirming the excess contribution removal and make sure they code the 1099-R properly. The code should indicate it was a "return of excess contributions" - usually code P or JP in box 7 of the 1099-R. As for how long to keep the documents, I personally now keep ALL retirement account documentation indefinitely. The technical requirement is 3 years from filing, but since IRA contributions and conversions can affect your basis for decades, it's safer to keep everything. I learned this the hard way when the IRS questioned transactions from 5 years prior. Just create a digital folder system and save everything - Form 5498 (showing contributions), 1099-R (showing distributions), account statements showing the removal of excess, and any correspondence with your provider about corrections.

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Based on your description, it sounds like you handled the excess contribution removal correctly by withdrawing before the filing deadline, which should have avoided the 6% penalty. However, there are a couple of areas that need attention: Your basis calculation is indeed incorrect. Since you withdrew the entire 2023 contribution of $1,500, that amount should NOT be included in your ongoing basis. Your basis should only reflect contributions that remain in the account - so for 2024, it should just be $7,000 (assuming you're eligible for the 2024 contribution). You should have received a 1099-R for the 2024 withdrawal showing the $1,530 distribution. The $1,500 principal portion isn't taxable since it was a return of excess contributions, but the $30 in earnings should be reported as taxable income on your 2024 return. If you're under 59½, those earnings are also subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty. Make sure your IRA provider coded the 1099-R correctly - it should show code P or JP in box 7 to indicate "return of excess contributions." This helps the IRS understand the nature of the distribution. For 2024, double-check that your income still qualifies you for the $7,000 Roth contribution. If you're over the limit again, you'll want to address this before the filing deadline to avoid repeating the same issue. You likely don't need to amend your 2023 return if you properly reported the excess on Form 5329, but you should verify that your 2024 return correctly reports the earnings portion of the withdrawal as taxable income.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is really helpful - I think I've been making this more complicated than it needs to be. Just to clarify one more thing: when you say the $30 in earnings is subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty, does that apply even though the withdrawal was to correct an excess contribution? I thought there might be an exception since it wasn't a voluntary distribution but rather a required correction. Also, should I expect to receive an amended 1099-R if my provider initially coded it incorrectly?

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LongPeri

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Absolutely make copies of everything before mailing! I learned this the hard way years ago when the IRS claimed they never received some documents I sent (though that was a different situation). For something this voluminous and important, I'd recommend: 1) Scan or photocopy every single page before packaging 2) Store digital copies in multiple places (cloud storage, external drive, etc.) 3) Keep physical copies in a safe place for at least 3 years With 1000+ pages, the copying cost might seem annoying, but it's nothing compared to the headache of trying to recreate everything if the package gets lost or damaged in transit. Plus, having digital copies makes it much easier to reference specific transactions if the IRS has questions later. The peace of mind alone is worth the extra effort and cost!

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Great advice on making copies! I'd also suggest creating a simple inventory sheet that lists exactly what you're sending - like "Form 8453 (2 pages), Form 8949 Pages 1-847, Cover Letter (1 page)" etc. Include this as the second page after your cover letter. If there are ever questions about what was received, you have a clear record of exactly what was in the package. I do this for any important document submissions now after having disputes about missing paperwork in other situations (not IRS related, but same principle applies). Also, take photos of the packed box before sealing it so you have visual proof of how everything was organized and packaged. Might seem overkill, but with this much important tax documentation, better to be overly cautious!

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Kaitlyn Otto

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As someone who went through a similar massive Form 8949 situation last year, I want to add a few practical tips that saved me headaches: First, consider breaking your submission into multiple packages if you're hitting over 1000 pages. The IRS can handle multiple packages for the same return as long as each one clearly references your e-filed return and includes your identifying information. Second, use page protectors for at least the first few pages (your 8453 and the first page of Form 8949). These documents are critical for connecting everything to your e-filed return, and you don't want them getting damaged or illegible during handling. Third, include your phone number and email on your cover letter. While the IRS rarely calls taxpayers directly, if there are processing questions about such a large submission, having multiple ways to contact you can prevent delays. Finally, mail early in the week (Monday or Tuesday) so it doesn't sit in a postal facility over the weekend. With that much paperwork, you want it moving through the system as quickly as possible after you send it. The three-day rule gives you some breathing room, but don't push it - mail as soon as possible after your e-file is accepted!

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This is incredibly helpful advice! The multiple package suggestion is brilliant - I hadn't thought about breaking it up but that makes so much sense for handling and processing. Quick question: if I do split into multiple packages, should I number them somehow (like "Package 1 of 3") or just make sure each references the same e-filed return? Also, do you think it's better to send them all on the same day or stagger them a day apart so they don't overwhelm whoever processes them?

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How to Verify My IRS Identity When I Never Received the 5071C/5447C Letter with 14-Digit Control Number

I need to verify my identity with the IRS but I'm stuck at their verification system. I'm on the "Verify Your Return" page where it says "Verify Your Letter" at the top. The website specifically asks "Did you receive an IRS return verification letter (5071C, 5447C, 5747C, or 6331C) in the mail?" and wants me to enter a 14-digit control number provided on the letter. The exact text on the screen says: "You will need this letter to continue with this online service. If you received a letter, but don't have it with you, please come back later." There are two options: - "Yes" with a field to "Enter the 14-digit control number provided on your letter" - "No, please resend the letter" Problem is, I never received any of these letters in my mail. The system won't let me continue with the online service without this letter. I see the option that says "No, please resend the letter" but I'm concerned about how long that might take. I need to get this verification done soon and waiting for a letter in the mail could take weeks. How am I supposed to verify my identity without these verification codes? I'm worried because I've heard the IRS is backed up with processing, and I need to resolve this identity verification issue quickly. Has anyone gone through this process before? Did selecting "No, please resend the letter" work efficiently? Is there any alternative way to verify my identity with the IRS that doesn't require waiting for this letter?

Paloma Clark

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I went through this exact situation a few months ago! The IRS verification system is frustrating when you never got the letter in the first place. Here's what I learned from my experience: 1. **Phone verification is your best bet** - Call 800-830-5084 (Identity Protection Specialized Unit) early in the morning. I called at 7:05 AM EST and waited about 30 minutes. They can absolutely verify you without the 14-digit control number using alternative methods. 2. **Have these documents ready**: Previous year's tax return (they'll ask for your prior year AGI), Social Security card, government ID, and W-2s from the tax year in question. 3. **The "resend letter" option** takes 2-3 weeks typically, but honestly the phone route is much faster if you can get through. 4. **In-person appointments** at Taxpayer Assistance Centers are also an option, but you need to schedule ahead and they're often booked out 2-3 weeks. The phone agents have different verification protocols than the online system - they can use your tax history, personal information, and other security questions to confirm your identity without needing that letter. Don't give up on the phone option even if it's busy - persistence pays off with early morning calls!

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This is super helpful! Just wanted to add that when I called that number last month, they also asked me to verify some info from my credit report (like previous addresses and account details) as an additional security layer. So if you have access to your credit report, it might be worth reviewing it beforehand. Also, the agents were really understanding about the whole "never got the letter" situation - apparently it happens more often than you'd think due to mail delays and address issues with USPS.

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I've been dealing with IRS verification issues for my small business and wanted to share another option that worked for me. If you're self-employed or have business income, you can also try calling the Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933. They have a dedicated identity verification process for business taxpayers that sometimes moves faster than the individual line. Also, a tip I learned from my tax preparer: if you're married filing jointly and your spouse hasn't been flagged for verification, sometimes they can call on behalf of the joint return. The IRS agent will verify the spouse's identity first, then ask them to put you on the phone for your verification questions. This helped us get through faster since my spouse wasn't stuck in the same verification loop I was. One more thing - make sure you're calling the right number for your specific situation. The 800-830-5084 number is specifically for identity protection cases, but if you're dealing with a different type of verification issue, there might be other specialized lines that are less congested.

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Great tip about the Business & Specialty Tax Line! I didn't know they had separate verification processes. Quick question though - do you know if that business line works for people who just have a side hustle or 1099 income, or is it mainly for people with actual business entities? I do some freelance work but file as an individual, so I'm wondering if I'd qualify to use that line instead of waiting in the regular identity protection queue.

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Lucy Lam

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Just wanted to share my recent experience with the W-7 process since I see a lot of helpful advice here! My husband needed an ITIN and we were really stressed about the whole thing. We ended up going the TAC route that Anastasia mentioned - definitely call ahead because they're booking appointments weeks out. The agent there was super helpful and caught a mistake we would have made on the form (we almost checked the wrong box for his reason code). One thing I didn't see mentioned - if your spouse has any previous U.S. tax history or SSN applications that were denied, make sure to bring documentation of that. The IRS agent told us it helps speed up their background verification process. The whole appointment took about 45 minutes, and we walked out knowing our application was complete and correct. Got the ITIN in about 6 weeks. Way less stressful than wondering if we mailed the right stuff!

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Liv Park

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This is really helpful! I'm curious - did you have to bring any specific documents about previous SSN application denials? My wife applied for an SSN years ago when she first came to the US but was denied because she wasn't authorized to work at the time. I'm wondering if we need to dig up that old paperwork or if the IRS can just look it up in their system. Also, thanks for mentioning the appointment time - 45 minutes seems totally reasonable compared to the stress of potentially having to resubmit everything by mail!

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I went through this exact situation two years ago when I got married to someone who needed an ITIN. The confusion around the W-7 form is totally understandable - the instructions are written in classic IRS bureaucrat-speak! Here's what worked for us: We filed "Married Filing Jointly" and attached the W-7 form directly with our tax return. You'll need to write "ITIN TO BE REQUESTED" in the space where her SSN would go on your 1040. A few key things that helped us avoid delays: - Make absolutely sure you check box "e" on the W-7 (spouse of US citizen/resident), NOT box "d" - Include a copy of your marriage certificate as supporting documentation - If mailing, use certified mail with tracking - these documents are too important to send regular mail The processing time was about 9 weeks for us, but we got both our tax refund and the ITIN. You can definitely file your taxes while the ITIN application is pending - just be prepared for the longer processing time. Good luck! Tax season stress with immigration paperwork is no joke, but you've got this!

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you! I'm definitely going with the "Married Filing Jointly" option since it sounds like the most straightforward approach. The tip about writing "ITIN TO BE REQUESTED" is super helpful because I was wondering exactly what to put in that SSN field. Quick question about the marriage certificate - does it need to be a certified copy or will a regular photocopy work? We got married in another state so getting additional certified copies would take some time, but I want to make sure we include the right documentation to avoid any delays. Also really appreciate the reminder about certified mail. You're absolutely right that these documents are way too important to risk with regular mail!

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Jacob Lee

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Hey Aliyah! Welcome to the world of doing your own taxes - you're definitely not alone in feeling confused by all the different screens and options! Just to reinforce what others have said, the Federal carryover worksheet is 100% something you can skip as a first-time filer. It's basically TurboTax's way of asking "do you have any unfinished tax business from previous years?" Since you've never filed before, the answer is automatically no. One tip for navigating TurboTax as a first-timer: don't stress about every single screen or option they show you. The software is designed to cover every possible tax situation, so it'll present you with sections that might not apply to your simple W-2 situation. When in doubt, if you don't have the specific documents or situations they're asking about, you can usually skip those sections safely. You're doing great by being careful and asking questions! The fact that you're taking your time to understand each step will serve you well. Good luck with the rest of your return!

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Micah Trail

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Thanks Jacob! This is really reassuring. I was definitely overthinking every single screen and wondering if I was missing something important. It's good to know that TurboTax just throws everything at you even if it doesn't apply to your situation. I feel much more confident about moving forward now that I understand the carryover worksheet is just for "unfinished business" from previous years. Appreciate everyone taking the time to help out a tax newbie!

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Hey Aliyah! Just wanted to chime in as someone who also filed for the first time recently - you're absolutely on the right track by asking questions and being careful! Everyone else has given you great advice about the carryover worksheet, but I wanted to add one more reassuring point: TurboTax is actually pretty good at guiding you through what you need vs. what you can skip. Since you mentioned you're being super careful not to mess anything up, here's a helpful mindset that worked for me: if a section is asking for information from "last year's return" or "previous tax years" and you've never filed before, you can confidently skip it. The software will never penalize you for not having information that doesn't exist! You've got this - the hardest part is honestly just getting started, and you're already doing great by working through it step by step. Once you get through your first return, next year will feel like a breeze in comparison!

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