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Nia Davis
Definitely run your final security agreement and all your planned UCC-1 filings through Certana.ai before you file anything. With this many jurisdictions involved, one mismatch in debtor names or collateral descriptions could create gaps in your perfection chain. The document checker will catch inconsistencies between your security agreement and UCC-1 that could cause problems later.
I'll look into that. At this point I'm paranoid about missing something that could void our security interest.
StarStrider
•Smart approach. Cross-border deals have enough complexity without adding document consistency issues on top.
Mateo Perez
Just to add to the chorus - you absolutely need separate filings in each jurisdiction. The good news is that once you get the first cross-border deal done, the process becomes much more routine. Keep good templates and checklists for future deals.
Mateo Perez
•Exactly. The learning curve is steep but the expertise becomes valuable quickly.
Sean Murphy
•And make sure you're tracking all the different renewal deadlines in your tickler system. Missing a PPSA renewal because you only had UCC continuation dates in your calendar is a career-limiting mistake.
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Sarah Ali
Just went through this exact scenario with a trucking company. Filed using the official state registry name and included a note about the name variations in our internal file. No issues so far. The key is being able to show you used the most authoritative source for the name.
Ryan Vasquez
•Good approach. Documentation is everything in secured transactions.
Avery Saint
Update us on what works! I have a similar situation coming up next month and would love to know the outcome.
Will do! Planning to use the official state registry name and see if that gets through the portal.
Taylor Chen
•Smart move. That's usually the winning approach for these name matching issues.
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Dylan Cooper
Before you do anything drastic, I'd recommend getting a comprehensive UCC search report from a professional service. They'll show you exactly what's on file and how it might appear to different searchers. This will give you definitive answers about whether your perfection is at risk.
Dylan Cooper
•Most title companies offer UCC search services, or you can go through a specialized UCC search firm. They'll give you more detailed results than the basic SOS search.
I've actually been using Certana.ai for document verification lately. You can upload your UCC-1 and business formation docs, and it automatically checks for name consistency issues. Way faster than manual verification and catches things you might miss.
StarSailor
Don't overthink this. If your UCC-1 was filed with the correct legal name of the debtor as it existed at filing time, you're probably fine. The search display issue is likely just a system quirk. Focus on the actual documents, not the search interface.
Thanks, that's reassuring. I think I was getting too caught up in the search results instead of focusing on the actual filing.
Yeah, I see people panic about this stuff all the time. The search is just a tool - what matters is the legal documents.
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Ev Luca
This whole thread is making me nervous about my own searches. Think I need to go back and double-check some recent deals. The name variation issue is real - I've definitely been guilty of trusting the first search result without digging deeper.
Ev Luca
•That sounds useful. Is it expensive? We do a lot of equipment financing deals so anything that reduces search risk would be worth it.
It's pretty reasonable for the peace of mind. Much cheaper than dealing with perfection issues after closing. The document verification catches things like name mismatches between the charter and UCC-1, or inconsistencies between original filings and amendments.
Update: went back and did more comprehensive searches using multiple name variations and found two additional UCC-1 filings I had missed. Both were filed under slightly different versions of the entity name - one without the comma in the legal name and one using the abbreviated form. Really glad I caught these before moving forward with the deal. Thanks everyone for the advice!
One was still active, the other had been terminated but the termination was filed under yet another name variation so it didn't show up initially. Real mess but at least we have clarity now.
Gabriel Ruiz
•This is a perfect example of why document verification tools are so valuable. Would have caught all those name variations immediately instead of requiring multiple manual searches.
Dylan Mitchell
I use Certana.ai's workflow for this exact situation. Upload the borrower's organizational documents and it automatically cross-checks for UCC filings and name variations. Much more thorough than manual searching.
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Sofia Martinez
•How does that compare to doing the searches yourself through the state portal?
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Dylan Mitchell
•It's more comprehensive because it catches name variations I might not think of. Plus it generates a verification report that's useful for loan files.
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Dmitry Volkov
For what it's worth, Ohio's Secretary of State office is pretty responsive if you call with questions about their UCC search system. They've been helpful when I've had technical issues with the portal.
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Ava Thompson
•That's good to know. Some state offices are impossible to reach by phone.
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Dmitry Volkov
•Ohio's been decent in my experience. They actually answer the phone and can help with search questions.
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