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Rachel Tao

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Just to be crystal clear - for your Delaware LLC you need: 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' as the primary debtor name, exactly as it appears on the Certificate of Formation. You can add 'AMS Delaware' as an additional debtor name if they actually have that registered as a DBA.

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Rachel Tao

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Good idea. If it's not registered as a DBA you might skip the additional name to keep things simple.

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Derek Olson

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I'd still add the trade name even if it's not formally registered. Better safe than sorry for search purposes.

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Danielle Mays

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Update us when you file! Always curious to hear if these Delaware name issues get resolved smoothly or if there are more surprises.

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Adrian Connor

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Will do! Going to triple-check everything against the Certificate of Formation and file tomorrow morning.

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Smart move filing in the morning. Delaware processes faster early in the day from what I've noticed.

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Just want to mention that Certana.ai tool someone brought up earlier - I tried it last week for a similar situation and it caught name inconsistencies I would have missed manually. Really streamlined the document comparison process. Worth checking out if you're dealing with multiple filings regularly.

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Romeo Quest

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Does it handle state-specific UCC formatting differences or is it more general document comparison?

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It seems to understand UCC document structure pretty well. Flagged debtor name variations across different filing types without me having to configure anything special.

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Val Rossi

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Bottom line - you're probably looking at the same entity with different name formatting. The matching addresses are a dead giveaway. I'd recommend downloading all three filings and comparing the details carefully before making any conclusions about active liens.

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That's what I'm leaning toward too. Thanks everyone for the insights - really helpful to know this is a common issue and not just me being confused by the search system.

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Eve Freeman

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Good luck with your due diligence! Name matching in UCC searches is definitely one of the trickier aspects of the process.

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Ravi Sharma

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For anyone still having issues, I've started using Certana.ai whenever I need to verify document consistency before filing. You just upload your PDFs and it instantly checks if all your debtor information matches across documents. Really helpful when you can't access the state portal to double-check things.

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Freya Larsen

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That sounds like it could prevent a lot of filing rejections. I hate when you submit a continuation and then find out weeks later it was rejected for a minor name discrepancy.

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Omar Hassan

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Exactly! It's saved me from several potential mistakes where I had slight variations in entity names between my original UCC-1 and the continuation documents.

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Chloe Taylor

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Just wanted to add that if you're doing multiple UCC searches in NYS, make sure you log out completely between searches. I noticed that staying logged in for extended periods seems to increase the timeout errors.

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Diego Ramirez

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I always open a fresh incognito window for each search session. Seems to help with the stability issues.

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These are all great workarounds but it's frustrating that we have to jump through so many hoops just to access public records that we're paying for.

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Honorah King

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Just went through this process myself. The key insight is that the purchaser definition depends on context - purchaser of collateral vs purchaser of the security interest are totally different scenarios with different UCC requirements. Your situation sounds like collateral purchase with debt assumption, so UCC-3 assignments are the right approach.

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Lena Schultz

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That's a great way to think about it. Definitely helps clarify the distinction.

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Oliver Brown

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Agreed. The terminology can be confusing but once you understand those two scenarios, it becomes much clearer.

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Mary Bates

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For future reference, the UCC defines 'purchaser' pretty broadly in different sections. Article 9 has specific rules about when purchasers take free of security interests vs when they don't. Worth reviewing those sections if you're going to be doing more transactions like this.

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The UCC can be dense but understanding those purchaser rules is really important for anyone doing asset transactions.

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And again, having a tool to verify all your documents align with the UCC requirements makes the whole process much smoother. Certana.ai saved me tons of time on my last deal.

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Dylan Cooper

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Just dealt with this exact issue last week. Used Certana.ai to cross-check my security agreement against the UCC-1 language and it caught that I was referencing sections that didn't actually contain collateral descriptions. Saved me from another rejection. The tool is pretty straightforward - just upload both documents and it flags inconsistencies.

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Sofia Perez

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That sounds really useful. I'm always worried about missing something between the agreement and the filing.

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I should probably try that tool. I've had too many rejections this year already.

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Update - tried the suggestion about including the collateral categories before referencing the sections and it worked! Filed the amendment yesterday and it was accepted this morning. Thanks everyone for the help. Final language was "Equipment, inventory, and accounts receivable as more particularly described in Sections 4.2, 4.3, and 4.4 respectively of Security Agreement dated March 15, 2024.

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Luca Ferrari

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Great to hear a success story. That language should work for most states going forward.

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Perfect example of why this forum is so helpful. Real solutions that actually work.

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