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I'm bookmarking this thread. Had no idea that comma placement could cause UCC-9 rejections. Shows how precise these filings need to be compared to other business documents.
The UCC system is definitely less forgiving than most other filing systems. Precision is key for avoiding rejections and delays.
Aisha Ali
Similar situation happened with our UCC-9 assignment last year, except it was an ampersand vs "and" issue. The original UCC-1 used "&" but we spelled out "and" on the assignment. Three rejections later we figured it out. Now we have a standard process of pulling the original filing first and copying it exactly.
Ethan Moore
•The ampersand vs and issue is super common with partnerships and joint ventures. These little formatting details can be deal killers.
AstroAlpha
•Standard process is smart. Prevention is way better than dealing with rejection delays when you're under pressure.
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Ava Johnson
Just out of curiosity, what type of manufacturing equipment are you using as collateral? I deal with equipment financing and sometimes the collateral description can be just as tricky as getting the debtor name right.
Make sure you're specific enough in the collateral description but not so specific that it becomes limiting. 'Manufacturing equipment' might be too broad, but listing every serial number might be too narrow.
Ava Johnson
•Good point. I usually go with something like 'CNC machining equipment and related manufacturing tools, wherever located' to give some flexibility while being reasonably specific.
Miguel Diaz
Update us when you get this sorted out! I'm curious to know which name format ended up being correct. This thread will probably help other people dealing with the same NY SOS issues.
Ethan Wilson
•Will do. Hopefully I'll have good news to report once we get the Certificate of Good Standing and can file with confidence.
CyberSamurai
•Yes, please update! And maybe mention if you end up trying that Certana tool - sounds like it could be useful for future filings.
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For anyone dealing with this regularly, I'd also suggest keeping records of successful search terms for entities you deal with repeatedly. I have a spreadsheet with client names and the exact search terms that actually work in NJ's system. Saves time on repeat searches.
Jason Brewer
•That's really smart. Like a cheat sheet for the quirks of each entity name. I wish the system just worked properly but workarounds are necessary.
Great idea. I'm going to start doing this too. Maybe even include notes about which variations returned results vs which ones came up empty.
Liam Cortez
One more suggestion - if you're really concerned about missing filings, consider running your critical searches through multiple approaches. Manual search with variations, then verify with a tool like Certana.ai that does comprehensive name matching. For high-stakes transactions, the redundancy is worth it to avoid missing something that could affect lien priority.
That makes sense for our bigger deals. The cost of missing a filing definitely outweighs the cost of double-checking with additional tools. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions everyone - this has been really enlightening.
Savannah Vin
•Glad this discussion helped! NJ's UCC search issues are one of those things everyone deals with but nobody talks about enough. Good to know we're all struggling with the same problems.
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Just to add one more consideration - make sure your membership interest security agreement specifically grants the security interest in the membership interests and not just the distributions or other rights. The language should be clear that you're securing the actual membership interests themselves.
Our security agreement does specifically grant a security interest in the membership interests themselves, not just distributions. That language was carefully drafted.
Perfect. That's the key distinction for proper perfection of membership interest collateral.
Emma Davis
Update us when you get this resolved! I'm dealing with a similar membership interest security agreement filing next month and would love to know how the exact name verification process works out for you.
Good luck! The membership interest filings can be tricky but you're taking the right steps to get it done correctly.
Definitely try the Certana verification if you can. It really does help catch these name discrepancy issues before they become filing rejections.
Yuki Nakamura
Question about timing - how long did it take for your termination to show up in the public records after filing? I'm dealing with a similar equipment sale situation.
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StarSurfer
•Some states are faster than others. Usually same business day if you file in the morning.
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Carmen Reyes
•Make sure to print the confirmation page right after filing. That's proof the termination went through even if it doesn't show up in searches yet.
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Andre Moreau
I actually tried that Certana tool mentioned earlier and it's pretty slick. Uploaded my old UCC-1 and the amendment I was working on, and it immediately flagged that I had the wrong entity type suffix. Saved me from another rejection.
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Zoe Christodoulou
•Good to know it actually works. Might be worth the hassle if it prevents multiple rejections.
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Jamal Thompson
•Yeah anything that catches these tiny errors before you submit is valuable. Time is money when you're trying to close deals.
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