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This thread is making me feel so much better! I've been worried about similar issues with my Oklahoma filings. Sounds like it's just the system being 'helpful' with formatting rather than actual filing problems.
Yeah, Oklahoma definitely takes some liberties with how they display information. The underlying filings are solid though - it's just their search interface that makes things look different.
Ethan Moore
Bottom line: if Oklahoma accepted your UCC-1 and issued a filing number, your security interest is perfected regardless of how the search results display the debtor name. The variations you're seeing are almost certainly just cosmetic formatting by their system. Keep your original filing confirmations and you'll be fine if anyone ever questions the perfection.
This is the most reassuring answer in the thread. Sometimes we overthink these things when the basics are actually working fine.
CosmicCowboy
•Agreed, this thread has been super helpful. Going to order those certified copies just to have them on file, but feeling much more confident about the perfection status now.
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Yara Haddad
UPDATE: I filed the correct UCC-1 this morning and it's already been accepted. Ran a UCC search and thankfully no competing liens were filed during my gap period. Still working with legal on the loan covenant issue but feeling much better about the secured position now. Thanks everyone for the quick responses and clarification on the terminology.
Andre Moreau
•I'm leaving the amendment on record for now. My attorney said it's harmless since it references a non-existent financing statement, and filing a termination might just add more confusion to the record.
Paolo Conti
•Smart approach. Sometimes the best solution is just moving forward with the correct filing rather than trying to clean up every administrative artifact.
Amina Sow
For anyone else who might make a similar mistake: most electronic filing systems now have confirmation screens that show exactly what type of filing you're submitting before you hit final submit. Always read that confirmation screen carefully. I know it seems obvious but when you're rushing through filings it's easy to miss.
GalaxyGazer
•This is so true. I've seen people blow past those confirmation screens and file amendments when they meant to file initial statements, or terminations when they meant to file continuations. Slow down and read the screen.
I always print or screenshot the confirmation screen for my files. Helps with compliance documentation and gives you proof of what you intended to file if there are ever questions later.
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Liam Brown
I remember being confused about UCC liens when I first started my business. Now I have several and they're all just routine secured loan paperwork. You'll get used to seeing them as your business grows.
True, it becomes second nature after a while. Just another part of commercial lending.
Noah Lee
One more thought - you might want to run a UCC search on your business periodically just to keep tabs on what's out there. Sometimes there are old filings that should have been terminated but weren't.
How did you get that cleaned up?
Had to contact the old lender and provide proof of payment. They filed the termination after some back and forth.
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Zainab Yusuf
Indiana Article 9 filings require exact name matching but their rejection notices are terrible at explaining what's wrong. I'd suggest calling their UCC hotline first thing in the morning - they're usually most helpful early in the day before they get swamped with calls.
Zainab Yusuf
•The main Secretary of State number can transfer you to the UCC division. Sometimes you can get through directly if you ask for Business Services first.
QuantumQuest
•Perfect, I'll try that approach tomorrow morning. Thanks for all the help everyone!
Following this thread because I'm about to file a UCC-1 in Indiana next week. Hoping I don't run into the same name matching issues. Sounds like their system is pretty finicky about exact formatting.
Zainab Yusuf
•Just be extra careful with punctuation and capitalization. Pull a fresh Certificate of Good Standing right before filing.
Will do. Might also check out that Certana thing people mentioned to double-check everything before submitting.
Rajiv Kumar
The 10-day notice period for equipment is generally correct, but make sure you're sending it to the right address. Last known address isn't always enough if you have reason to believe the debtor has moved.
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Rajiv Kumar
•Reasonable efforts to find a current address are part of proper notice. Check with the Secretary of State for updated business filings.
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Joshua Hellan
•Also consider sending to any personal addresses you have for guarantors or principals.
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Aria Washington
Just a thought - have you considered whether the debtor might be in bankruptcy? That would completely change your enforcement options and could explain why they're unresponsive.
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Aria Washington
•PACER system for federal bankruptcy filings. If they're in bankruptcy, the automatic stay would prevent most collection activities.
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Jibriel Kohn
•Good point. Always check PACER before starting enforcement. Violating the automatic stay can get you in serious trouble.
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