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i had the OPPOSITE problem with ESD last year lol. i WASNT in school & they somehow marked me AS attending school & disqualified me. took 6 calls & 2 months to fix. double check all your weekly claims to make sure you answered the school question correctly each week?
I definitely double-checked my answers before submitting each week. I answered "yes" to the school question and explained that I was taking evening classes that wouldn't interfere with full-time work. Maybe that's where things went wrong? Should I have answered "no" since the classes don't affect my work availability?
Actually, that might be part of the problem. When you answer "yes" to attending school, the system often flags your claim for review because it assumes you might not be available for work. This is why many people recommend applying for Training Benefits approval before starting classes. For now, I recommend: 1. File your appeal right away (30-day deadline!) 2. Try to reach an ESD agent (using Claimyr or persistent calling) 3. Keep filing weekly claims, but be consistent with your answers 4. Gather documentation showing your availability despite school And don't get discouraged - many people successfully overturn these kinds of disqualifications when they can prove the school schedule doesn't interfere with work availability.
This is all excellent advice. One more thing: when you file your appeal, specifically request back payment for all those weeks you were filing. If your appeal is successful, ESD should pay you for all properly filed weeks retroactively. Just make sure you don't miss any weekly filings while waiting for the appeal decision.
Just double checking - did you get an actual determination letter for your September claim saying you were denied for insufficient hours? Or are you just assuming that's why it was denied? Sometimes claims get denied for other reasons like job separation issues.
Yes, I did get a determination letter back in September. It specifically said I didn't have enough hours in my base year to qualify. It showed my hours and they were just under the minimum requirement.
One more important thing - when you file your new claim, you'll need to have your employment information ready for all jobs in the last 18 months. That includes employer names, addresses, phone numbers, employment dates, and why you're no longer working there. Also be prepared to verify your identity again through ID.me if you haven't used your ESD account recently.
Thank you for the reminder! I do have most of that information saved from my previous application, but I'll make sure to update everything. I did the ID.me verification already for my first claim - will I need to do it again?
Based on everything you've shared, you're in a pretty strong position for the appeal. Having the written layoff notice is extremely valuable evidence. The fact that the employer is now changing their story to claim it was for tardiness, when they documented it as a layoff due to reduced work, severely undermines their credibility. One other thing to prepare for: ESD may try to say you have to repay while the appeal is pending. You can request a "waiver of collection" due to financial hardship while your appeal is in process. This stops them from taking actions like garnishing wages or tax refunds until after the hearing decision. Please come back and let us know how the hearing goes!
Yes, absolutely request to record the hearing! OAH records it anyway, but having your own copy is helpful. Also, take detailed notes during the employer's testimony - they often contradict themselves, which you can point out during your response. One last tip: use the exact terminology from the ESD handbook when possible. For example, don't just say "I was laid off" but instead say "I was separated from employment due to lack of work, which is not misconduct connected with the work." Using their language shows you understand the standards they're applying.
My uncle works for ESD and he told me they always use the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters. It's just how the system works. Also, make sure you're doing your job search activities every week (3 per week) or they'll deny your benefits.
One more important thing to understand: After your claim is processed and investigated, you'll receive a "Monetary Determination" letter that shows exactly which wages were counted from which quarters, and how your weekly benefit amount was calculated. This usually takes 2-3 weeks. If you notice any wages missing from the determination that should be in your base year (7/1/22-6/30/23), you can request a redetermination. But they won't include wages outside your base year unless you don't qualify at all under the standard base year calculation. Just make sure to keep filing your weekly claims while waiting for the final determination. Your first payment won't process until the investigation is complete, but you'll get paid retroactively for all weeks you've properly claimed.
Lourdes Fox
Did you switch jobs during your claim period or have multiple employers? That's often the cause of these mysterious overpayment notices. ESD's system sometimes fails to properly connect all your employment records, especially if you worked for multiple places or had gig work. Make sure your appeal specifically addresses this possibility if it applies to your situation.
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Landon Morgan
•Yes! I was working at two different bars during that time - one closed down temporarily during renovations which is why I qualified for partial unemployment. I bet that's the issue. I'll make sure to explain that clearly in my appeal.
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Alejandro Castro
One important thing to note: if your appeal is successful, you'll want to request a formal "waiver of overpayment" form from ESD. Even if they agree the overpayment was their error, they sometimes still expect repayment unless you specifically request a waiver. Don't skip this step! The form basically asks you to explain why repayment would cause financial hardship. Also, continue filing your weekly claims if you're still on unemployment - an overpayment notice doesn't automatically disqualify you from current benefits.
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Landon Morgan
•I finally got through to ESD this morning! Turns out they think I was working full-time at both bars simultaneously, which wasn't the case at all. I was working part-time at each, totaling less than 30 hours weekly. The agent sent me the appeal form and told me exactly which pay periods they're questioning. Going to submit all my documentation tomorrow. Thank you everyone for the help and keeping me from panicking!
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