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Has anyone noticed how these "calendar week" rules are NEVER clearly explained when you're filing?! The questions just ask if you were "available for work" without explaining what they mean by that! And then they hit you with these technical overpayments months later! It's like they WANT people to make mistakes so they can collect overpayments!

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You make a good point. The UI handbook does explain the calendar week definition, but it's buried among hundreds of other rules and most people don't read the entire thing. This is definitely something that could be made clearer in the weekly claim questions themselves.

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My cousin had this exact problem last year. He was on a hunting trip that went from Thursday-Monday (only 5 days) but got hit with a two-week overpayment. What worked for him was bringing printed calendar evidence to his appeal hearing showing the actual days he was gone. The judge ended up reducing it to just the actual days he was unavailable instead of full weeks. Bring as much documentation as you can to your hearing!

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That's encouraging to hear! I have my travel itinerary that clearly shows the dates, so I'll definitely bring that to the hearing. Did your cousin represent himself or get a lawyer?

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He represented himself. He said the judge was pretty understanding once he showed the actual timeline. Just be super organized with your paperwork and dates when you go in!

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my freind had this same problem but with L&I not ESD i think all the state agencys dont talk to eachother lol. she got her money back after like 2 months. good luck!!

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L&I and ESD both terrible! But at least your friend got her money back. Some people never see a dime after the government wrongfully takes it!

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Just to follow up on this thread: I checked with a colleague at ESD today about the current timing. For refunds of tax offsets when there's an approved waiver, they're currently processing these in about 4 weeks if you provide all the documentation correctly. Make sure you've submitted the Form 483-B specifically, as this initiates the refund process in their system. Without this form, your case might get delayed even if you've called and emailed.

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Thank you for checking! I finally got through to someone yesterday and they confirmed they received my Form 483-B. They said it would take 3-5 weeks to process. I'm just glad there's a path to getting our money back. I'll update here when we get it!

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so how'd it go??? was it ok??

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It went fine! You were all right - just a quick 15 minute call where the judge explained the hearing process, confirmed my subpoena requests (approved 2 out of 3), and made sure we all had the same documents. My employer was there but barely said anything. Now I feel much better prepared for the actual hearing next week! Thanks everyone for calming me down yesterday!

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Good luck with your actual hearing! Quick tip - write down all your key points beforehand so you don't forget anything important when you get nervous. And remember to address all your comments to the judge, not directly to your former employer, even if they say something you want to respond to. The judge really appreciated when I maintained that formality.

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That's excellent advice, thank you! I'm definitely going to prepare a list of talking points. And good reminder about addressing the judge - I probably would have fallen into arguing directly with my ex-boss which wouldn't look good.

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To directly answer your question: Yes, this is normal. The governor's office liaison team can only expedite claims; they cannot access the ESD system or tell you why you're in adjudication. Their role is limited to flagging claims for priority review. Regarding the identity verification issue: This is currently the most common reason for adjudication. The September 2025 date is likely just when your identity verification expires in their system (they typically set it for 12 months from verification). Here's what you should do: 1. Make sure ALL identity documents are uploaded again (both sides of ID, SS card, proof of address) 2. Call ESD directly - the expedite request doesn't guarantee immediate action 3. Check your spam/junk folders for any ESD correspondence 4. If you uploaded docs via smartphone, try re-uploading via computer if possible (better image quality) In January 2025, ESD implemented a new identity verification system that has been causing many claims to be flagged for review. The average resolution time is currently 17-21 days even with expedite requests.

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Thank you for such a detailed explanation! I never thought to check my spam folder - just did and found a message from ESD requesting additional verification. Uploading everything again right now. This is so helpful!

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Has your issue been resolved yet? It's been a few days since your post. If not, I really recommend trying to get through to an actual ESD agent rather than waiting. The governor's office expedite is helpful but still leaves you waiting without knowing what's happening.

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Finally got it resolved yesterday! After re-uploading all my documents (including the back of my ID which I missed before), I used Claimyr to reach an agent who confirmed they received everything. The agent removed the adjudication flag and my payment was processed this morning. Such a relief!

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wait so ur parents own a rental and ur living there? does ESD know thats where u moved? they might think ur just trying to help ur family business or something

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My parents own a small rental property that happened to be vacant when I needed to move. I'm supposed to pay them rent (which I'm now behind on). But you bring up a good point - maybe ESD misunderstood the situation. I'll make sure to clarify that this is a legitimate landlord-tenant arrangement with my parents.

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Looking at the exact wording of your denial, I'd recommend requesting copies of all documents in your claim file through a formal records request ASAP. You need to see exactly what the adjudicator documented in their fact-finding. Sometimes they misinterpret information or record something incorrectly. For housing-related quits, ESD is specifically looking for documentation that: 1. The housing change was truly involuntary 2. The cost of available housing near your job would create significant financial hardship 3. The commute would be unreasonable by normal standards For your second appeal, I strongly recommend submitting a pre-hearing brief that clearly addresses each point in the denial letter with corresponding evidence. This gives the judge a roadmap to follow during your hearing.

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I didn't know I could request my claim file! I'll do that right away. And I've never heard of a pre-hearing brief - is there a template or format I should follow? Also, should I bring witnesses to the hearing? My former landlord agreed to testify about the eviction if needed.

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