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I just want to thank everyone for their helpful responses. I had no idea I might still be eligible for survivor benefits after all these years! I've scheduled an appointment with my local SSA office for next week and will bring all the documents suggested. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high since my husband was so young when he died and didn't have a long work history, but even a small increase would be helpful with my medical bills. I'll update once I find out what they say. I appreciate all of you taking the time to respond to my situation!
Good luck with your appointment! One more tip: take notes during your meeting and ask for any benefit calculations in writing. Sometimes different SSA representatives give different answers, so having written documentation of what you were told can be helpful if you need to follow up later. Please do come back and let us know how it goes!
I'm so glad you're pursuing this! Your situation really highlights how important it is for people to know about all their potential benefits. The fact that you've been eligible for survivor benefits this whole time but didn't know it is unfortunately way too common. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - when you go to your appointment, you might also want to ask about Medicare Supplement Insurance benefits if you're not already enrolled. Sometimes people on disability retirement miss out on certain Medicare enrollment opportunities, and survivor benefits can sometimes affect your Medicare options too. Also, don't be discouraged if the first person you talk to seems unsure about the calculations for such an old case. These situations with decades-old survivor benefits don't come up every day, so you might need to ask to speak with a supervisor or specialist who has more experience with complex survivor benefit calculations. Persistence really pays off with SSA! Wishing you the best of luck - I really hope you get some good news that helps with those medical expenses!
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I feel much better now. To summarize what I've learned: 1. The inheritance from my father's retirement account won't affect my Social Security benefits 2. Since I'm at FRA, I don't need to worry about the earnings test regardless 3. The 20% tax withholding is standard but I might be able to adjust it 4. I should keep my SSA appointment to discuss the survivor benefits from my ex-spouse I'll call the retirement plan administrator on Monday to get more details about the account type and tax implications, but I won't stress about it affecting my Social Security. Really appreciate all the insights!
That's a perfect summary! One last tip - keep documentation of both the retirement account distribution and your Social Security benefit determination letters together in a folder. Having everything in one place will be helpful when you file your taxes next year, as there can be tax implications regarding how much of your Social Security benefits are taxable based on your overall income.
Great advice from everyone here! Just wanted to add that when you do receive the distribution, make sure to save all the paperwork (1099-R form, etc.) that the retirement plan sends you. Even though this won't affect your Social Security benefits, you'll definitely need those documents for tax filing purposes. Also, since you mentioned you're new to navigating all these Social Security rules - the SSA website has a really helpful benefit calculator tool that can give you estimates for different scenarios. It's under the "Retirement Estimator" section. Might be worth checking out before your appointment so you have a better sense of what to expect with the survivor benefits vs. your own retirement benefit. Good luck with your appointment next week!
have u thought about reducing ur hours just enough to get under the limit? might be worth it depending on how much ur kid would get
One thing to keep in mind is that the earnings test applies monthly, not just annually. So if you're planning to retire completely at some point during the year (even if you turn 65), you could potentially receive benefits for the months after you stop working, even if your total annual earnings exceed the limit. The SSA uses a monthly test of $1,770 (for 2025) in addition to the annual limit. This might give you some flexibility in timing if you're considering full retirement in the next year or two. Also, make sure you understand exactly when your FRA is - for someone turning 65 in 2025, your FRA is likely 66 and some months, not 66 exactly.
To follow up on my earlier comment, when your wife files, SSA should automatically determine which is higher - her own reduced retirement benefit or her reduced spousal benefit. However, there's an important timing consideration here. Since you haven't filed for your own benefits yet, your wife can only get her own retirement benefit initially. Once you file next month, SSA should automatically recalculate to see if she qualifies for an additional amount as a spouse. This happens because spousal benefits can't be paid until the primary worker (you) has filed. This two-step process sometimes gets overlooked in the system, which is why having records of everything and following up is crucial. I'd suggest calling SSA or using the Claimyr service someone mentioned about 30 days after you file to ensure the spousal calculation was properly processed.
This is really helpful information. So if I understand correctly, she should apply for her retirement benefits now, and then after I file next month, SSA should automatically check if she qualifies for additional spousal benefits? Does she need to file anything additional after I apply, or is this supposed to happen automatically?
It should happen automatically, but the keyword is "should." Given SSA's current staffing issues and backlog, things that should be automatic sometimes fall through the cracks. When you file next month, I'd recommend specifically mentioning that your wife is already receiving benefits and you want to ensure her spousal benefits are evaluated. Then follow up in 30-60 days if you don't see any changes to her payment amount. Documentation and persistence are your best tools when dealing with SSA.
Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work as a benefits coordinator and see these dual filing situations regularly. Your approach is solid, but I'd recommend getting everything in writing from SSA when you meet with them or speak by phone. One thing I've noticed is that the online system sometimes doesn't capture the nuances of spousal benefit calculations correctly, especially when there are timing differences like yours. The representatives can manually override the system when needed, but only if they understand your full situation. Also, keep detailed records of when each of you files and what amounts you're initially awarded. This makes it much easier to catch errors early. I've seen cases where the spousal benefit adjustment took 3-6 months to process correctly, and having your own documentation helped expedite the corrections. Your timing strategy makes financial sense - getting some income flowing now while maximizing the higher earner's benefit is often the optimal approach for couples with significant age or earnings differences.
Thank you for sharing your professional perspective! This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping to find. The point about getting everything in writing is especially important - I've heard too many stories about miscommunications that cost people money later on. Could you clarify what you mean by "manually override the system"? Is this something I should specifically ask the SSA representative to do, or will they know to check for this automatically? I want to make sure I'm asking the right questions when we meet with them. Also, when you mention keeping records of initial award amounts, should I be documenting the monthly payment amounts or also things like the calculation methods they used? I'm trying to figure out what level of detail is actually useful versus just creating unnecessary paperwork for myself.
Fatima Al-Rashid
my aunt had this happen she just called and cried to the lady and they reduced what she had to pay back. worth a try lol
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Jamal Brown
•That's not how it works. If her repayment was reduced, it was through an official partial waiver after she demonstrated financial hardship, not because she cried to someone. SSA agents don't have authority to just reduce overpayments based on sympathy.
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Reginald Blackwell
I went through a similar situation a few years back with a $22,000 overpayment due to unreported workers' comp benefits. Here's what I learned from the experience: First, you're absolutely right to self-report - this will definitely work in your favor during the waiver process. When I finally got through to SSA (took weeks of trying), they noted in my file that I voluntarily disclosed the issue. Regarding the tax situation, everyone here is correct - SSA won't reduce the overpayment amount because of taxes you paid. However, I want to emphasize how valuable that tax relief can be. In my case, using the "claim of right" provision when I filed taxes the year I made repayments resulted in about $4,800 back from the IRS. It doesn't eliminate the sting, but it helps significantly. My advice for the process: When you call SSA, immediately request Form SSA-632 (waiver request) and ask about setting up a payment plan while the waiver is being reviewed. In my case, they approved a $75/month payment plan which was manageable on my fixed income. The waiver took about 8 months to process (they denied it, but the payment plan stayed in place). One more tip: document EVERYTHING. Take notes during phone calls including the representative's name and badge number. I had to reference these notes multiple times when information got mixed up in my file. Good luck - this process is stressful but manageable if you stay organized and persistent.
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Fernanda Marquez
•Thank you so much for sharing your detailed experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this process with a similar amount. The fact that you got $4,800 back through the claim of right provision gives me hope that the tax relief could be substantial in my case too. I'm definitely going to take your advice about documenting everything - I hadn't thought about getting badge numbers, but that makes total sense given how often information seems to get lost in their system. Did you end up paying the full amount over time, or were you eventually able to get any portion waived through appeals?
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