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My aunt thought she was gonna get backpay for the COLA starting from her birthday month all the way to January lol. I had to explain that's not how it works! The SSA does such a bad job explaining this stuff.

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Amina Sy

I can see why she thought that! The whole system seems unnecessarily complicated. Thanks for all the helpful responses everyone. I now understand that I'll see my increase in my February payment.

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As someone who just went through this process myself, I wanted to add that you can actually see the exact dates and amounts on your my Social Security account online. If you log in and go to "Message Center" they usually send you a notice in December explaining the COLA increase and when it takes effect. Also, don't panic if your first payment with the increase seems delayed - sometimes there are processing delays in January/February that can push payments back a day or two, but you'll still get the full increased amount. The key thing everyone's mentioned is correct - January increase, but you see it in your February deposit!

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my sister got QI last yr and she got 2 payments in december just like theyre telling you! its normal

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I went through this exact same thing when I got approved for QI about 6 months ago! The double payment in the transition month is totally normal - you're not getting overpaid. The SSA rep was right. What happens is your October benefit gets paid on November 27th (your old schedule), then your November benefit gets paid on December 3rd (your new schedule). After that, you'll just get payments on the 3rd each month. The payment date change happens because when you qualify for QI, SSA has to adjust how they process your account since the state is now handling your Part B premium instead of deducting it from your Social Security. It's just an administrative thing. Definitely keep that letter they sent you - it's your proof that this change was authorized. And like others mentioned, your payment amount should be higher now since they're not taking out the Part B premium anymore. Mine went up by the full premium amount and it's been smooth sailing ever since!

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I'm dealing with a similar GPO situation and wanted to share what I learned from my experience. When you have a "suspended" status showing since 2018, that's typically just an administrative record created when you enrolled in Medicare through your spouse - it doesn't mean you were actually entitled to benefits then. From what I've gathered through my own research and calls to SSA, you're definitely limited to the 6-month retroactive payment from your January 2024 application date. The key is making sure they calculate your GPO reduction correctly (2/3 of your gross monthly pension) and that you explicitly request the maximum retroactive benefits allowed. One tip that helped me: when you call SSA, have your pension award letter ready and ask to speak with someone who specializes in GPO cases. The regular representatives often don't fully understand how GPO works with spousal benefits. Also, document everything - dates, names, what they told you - because you'll likely need to make multiple calls to get consistent information. Good luck with getting this sorted out! The whole process is frustrating but it sounds like you should be entitled to some benefits after the GPO reduction.

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Thank you for sharing your experience and those helpful tips! I really appreciate the advice about asking for someone who specializes in GPO cases - that's something I hadn't thought of. You're right that the regular representatives seem confused about how GPO works with spousal benefits. I've been documenting my calls but will make sure to be even more detailed going forward. It's reassuring to hear from others who've navigated this process successfully. I'll definitely have my pension award letter ready and be very specific about requesting the maximum retroactive benefits when I call again.

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I went through something very similar with GPO and retroactive benefits last year. The confusion about the "suspended" status is completely understandable - it's misleading because it makes you think you were entitled to benefits since 2018, but you're absolutely right that you can only get 6 months retroactive from your January 2024 application date. Here's what worked for me: I called SSA first thing in the morning (8 AM EST) and specifically asked to speak with someone experienced in GPO calculations. I had my state pension award letter, my husband's Social Security statement, and a calculator ready. The representative was able to walk through the GPO reduction (2/3 of my pension amount) and confirm my retroactive entitlement on the spot. One thing to watch out for - make sure they don't accidentally apply WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) instead of GPO to your case. Some representatives get these two provisions confused, but GPO applies to spousal/survivor benefits while WEP applies to your own retirement benefits. With your pension amount of $3,750/month, your GPO reduction would be about $2,500, so if your spousal benefit calculation is higher than that, you should receive the difference. Don't give up - persistence with SSA is key, and that retroactive payment can really add up!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for breaking down the GPO calculation so clearly! I hadn't thought about the possibility of them confusing GPO with WEP, but that's a great point to watch out for. With my pension at $3,750/month, the GPO reduction would indeed be $2,500, and since my husband's spousal benefit calculation should be around $1,400 (half of his $2,800 PIA), I'm looking at potentially receiving nothing after the offset. But I want to make sure they calculate it correctly just in case. I really appreciate the tip about calling at 8 AM EST and asking specifically for someone experienced with GPO - I'll definitely try that approach. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who successfully navigated this process!

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To answer your question about COLA timing: The official 2025 COLA will be announced in mid-October 2024 when the September 2024 CPI-W data is released. The increase (if any) will be applied to benefits beginning January 2025. You'll receive an official notice by mail in December 2024, and it will also appear in your my Social Security account in December if you have one set up. Based on current inflation trends, analysts are projecting a COLA between 2.5-3.1% for 2025, but that's just an estimate until the official announcement in October.

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only 3%?? with grocery prices going up like 20%?? what a joke

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Thanks for the clear explanation of the timeline! That helps me know when to expect legitimate information.

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As someone new to Social Security benefits, this is really eye-opening and scary! I had no idea these phishing scams were so common. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and the detailed advice about protecting ourselves. I'm definitely going to bookmark this thread and share it with my parents who are also on SS. It's amazing how these scammers target people during COLA announcement periods when we're all naturally more anxious about our benefits. I'll make sure to only ever go directly to ssa.gov and never click email links. Stay safe everyone!

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Congratulations on finally getting through! That's such a relief after weeks of trying. For anyone else reading this thread who might be in a similar situation, I'd also recommend checking if your state has a SHIP (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) counselor who can help with Social Security questions. They're free and sometimes have better connections or knowledge about navigating these complex benefit situations. Also, when you go to your appointment next Tuesday, don't forget to ask about whether you're eligible for any Medicare premium assistance programs - sometimes people with government pensions qualify for help with Part B premiums but don't know about it. Good luck with everything!

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Thanks for mentioning SHIP counselors! I had no idea those existed. I'll definitely look into that as a backup resource. And great point about Medicare premium assistance - with my teacher's pension being modest, I might actually qualify for some help there. I've been dreading the Medicare maze but having someone knowledgeable to guide me through it sounds amazing. Really appreciate all the helpful suggestions from everyone in this thread!

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As someone who went through a similar situation after losing my spouse, I completely understand your frustration. The SSA phone system is incredibly difficult to navigate, especially when you're already dealing with grief and financial uncertainty. A few additional tips that helped me beyond what others have mentioned: 1. Consider calling the Spanish-language line (1-800-772-1213 press 7) even if you speak English - sometimes they have shorter wait times and many agents are bilingual 2. If you have any military connection (yours or your husband's), try the veterans service organizations - they sometimes have advocates who can help navigate SSA For your GPO situation specifically, make sure you bring documentation of ALL your government employment, not just your teaching years. Sometimes people forget about summer jobs with parks departments or other government work that can affect calculations. One thing that really helped my peace of mind was creating a simple spreadsheet with different scenarios (taking survivor benefits at 60 vs waiting, taking my own retirement early vs waiting) so I could see the long-term financial impact of each choice. The SSA agent was actually impressed that I came prepared with questions about specific scenarios. Hang in there - once you get through the initial hurdle of reaching someone, the actual benefit application process is much smoother. You've got this!

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