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I'm so glad you found this information helpful! As someone who went through a similar situation, I wanted to add one more important point: when you call SSA, make sure to specifically ask about the "deemed filing" rules since you're already receiving SSDI. Sometimes the SSA representatives aren't familiar with how SSDI interacts with spousal benefits, so you might want to mention that you understand you can receive the higher of either your SSDI amount or the spousal benefit amount, but not both in full. Also, since you're 62, ask them to calculate both what you'd get now versus what you'd get if you waited until your full retirement age - sometimes the math works out better to wait depending on your specific situation. One last thing - if the first person you talk to seems uncertain about the rules, politely ask to speak with a supervisor or specialist. These cases can be complex and not every rep handles them regularly. Wishing you the best of luck with this process!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't heard about the "deemed filing" rules before, so I'll make sure to bring that up specifically when I call. You're absolutely right that I should ask them to calculate both scenarios - getting benefits now versus waiting until full retirement age. Given that I'm struggling financially right now, any increase would be welcome, but it's smart to understand the long-term implications too. I really appreciate you mentioning that I might need to ask for a supervisor if the first rep isn't familiar with these rules. It sounds like these SSDI/spousal benefit combinations can be tricky even for SSA staff. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's giving me much more confidence going into this process!
I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share what I learned when I helped my neighbor with a similar situation last year. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you should ask SSA about any potential "government pension offset" (GPO) or "windfall elimination provision" (WEP) that might affect your benefits. These rules can reduce Social Security benefits if you receive certain types of pensions, though they typically apply to government pensions rather than SSDI. Also, since you mentioned being in Florida now, you might want to check if there's a local SSA field office near you. Sometimes it's easier to get help in person, especially for complex cases like yours where you're dealing with both SSDI and potential ex-spousal benefits. You can find local offices on the SSA website. One more tip: if your ex-husband's earnings were significantly higher than yours (which sounds likely given the potential benefit amounts others have mentioned), this could be a game-changer for your monthly budget. Don't get discouraged if the first call doesn't go smoothly - persistence really pays off with SSA. Good luck!
Welcome to the community, and thank you for sharing such helpful information! I really appreciate you mentioning the GPO and WEP - I had never heard of those before. Since I'm only receiving SSDI and don't have any government pensions, hopefully those won't apply to my situation, but it's definitely something I'll ask about when I call SSA just to be sure. The suggestion about visiting a local SSA office is great too. I've been dreading trying to handle this all over the phone, especially after reading about the long wait times. There's actually an SSA office about 20 minutes from me in Tampa, so maybe I'll try scheduling an in-person appointment instead. That might be easier for such a complex situation. Your point about persistence is really encouraging. After reading everyone's experiences here, it's clear that this process can be challenging but potentially very rewarding. The thought that this could significantly help my monthly budget is what's motivating me to push through whatever obstacles come up. Thank you for the encouragement and practical advice!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm bookmarking it for future reference. It's really reassuring to see how common these Medicare premium adjustment payments are when transitioning to Social Security. The lack of immediate explanation from SSA definitely causes unnecessary anxiety, but seeing everyone's experiences here shows it's just part of their standard process. For anyone else dealing with mysterious payments - it seems like the pattern is: if you're transitioning from direct Medicare payments to SS deductions, expect some kind of adjustment payment that might not be immediately explained in your online account. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to those with professional knowledge who provided the detailed explanations!
Absolutely agree! As someone new to navigating Social Security benefits, threads like this are incredibly valuable. It's frustrating how SSA doesn't provide clearer communication upfront about these adjustment payments, but it's comforting to see how many people go through the same confusion and that it usually resolves itself. The community knowledge here really fills in the gaps where official communication falls short. I'm saving this thread too - the explanations about Medicare premium transitions and IRMAA adjustments are things I never would have figured out on my own. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and expertise!
This thread is incredibly helpful for anyone dealing with unexpected SSA payments! I just went through something similar when I started my disability benefits - got a random $67 payment about three weeks before my regular benefits began, with zero explanation. Like others mentioned, it turned out to be related to Medicare premium adjustments since I had been paying Part B premiums directly. The frustrating part is that SSA's customer service seems to assume everyone understands their complex payment systems, but for those of us new to the process, these mystery deposits can be really stressful. It's great to see the community filling in these knowledge gaps where official communication fails. For future readers: if you're transitioning any type of Medicare premium payment method when starting SS benefits, expect some kind of adjustment payment that may not be immediately explained!
Update: I finally got through to someone at SSA today after trying for three days. The agent explained that they had initially calculated my benefit based on my husband's estimated earnings for his last year of work, but when the actual earnings were processed, it was lower than estimated. They're giving me options to either have reduced payments for 10 months or pay a lump sum (which I can't afford). I'm still going to file for reconsideration because I don't think I should be penalized for their estimation error. Thank you all for your helpful advice and support during this stressful time. The forms and information you suggested really helped me understand what was happening and what my options are.
That's a very common cause of overpayments, unfortunately. When applying for survivor benefits, SSA often has to estimate the deceased's final earnings if tax information hasn't been fully processed yet. Later, when actual earnings are recorded, they adjust the benefit amount, which can result in an overpayment notice. Definitely proceed with the reconsideration, and be sure to emphasize that you had no way of knowing their estimate was incorrect and that recovery would cause financial hardship. Best of luck, and let us know how it goes!
I'm so glad you were able to get through and get some clarity on what happened! That estimation issue is incredibly frustrating - you're absolutely right that you shouldn't be penalized for their error. When you file your reconsideration, make sure to emphasize that: 1. You relied on SSA's benefit determination in good faith 2. You had no way to verify their earnings estimate was incorrect 3. The overpayment was entirely due to their administrative process, not any action on your part Also consider requesting a waiver alongside the reconsideration. Even if the overpayment stands, you might still qualify for waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship. Many people don't realize you can pursue both options simultaneously. Keep us posted on how the reconsideration goes - your experience could really help others in similar situations!
This is such valuable information, and I really appreciate how thorough everyone has been in explaining the rules. As someone who's been helping folks navigate Social Security for years, I can confirm what others have said - your husband's early filing absolutely will NOT reduce his survivor benefits. One thing I'd add that might be helpful: if your husband does become a survivor, he'll want to understand his timing options. Since his own benefit will be permanently reduced due to early filing, but your survivor benefit would be based on your full amount, he might benefit from what's called a "restricted application" strategy where he could potentially switch between benefits at different times to maximize his total lifetime benefits. Also, just a heads up - when the time comes (hopefully many years from now), make sure to apply for survivor benefits promptly. Unlike retirement benefits, survivor benefits can't be paid retroactively for more than 6 months, so timing matters for maximizing the total amount received. You're doing great by planning ahead and getting the facts straight!
Thank you for that additional insight about the restricted application strategy! That's something I hadn't considered before. It sounds like there could be some strategic timing decisions to make if the situation ever arises. I'm definitely going to research that concept more and add it to our planning documents. The 6-month retroactive limit is also really good to know - I'll make sure to include that information in the file I'm putting together for my husband. It's reassuring to hear from someone with professional experience that we're on the right track with our planning.
As someone who went through this exact scenario with my parents, I can confirm what everyone else is saying - your husband's early filing won't affect his survivor benefits at all. My dad filed at 62 and my mom waited until her FRA of 66. When mom passed away two years ago, dad was able to switch to her full benefit amount without any reduction due to his early filing. One thing that really helped us was creating a simple one-page summary of all the key facts - both of their Social Security numbers, their projected benefit amounts, and the key rules about survivor benefits. We kept copies in multiple places so it would be easy to find when needed. The SSA office actually commented on how organized we were and it made the whole process much smoother during an already difficult time. Your planning ahead like this will really pay off if your husband ever needs to navigate this situation. The peace of mind alone is worth it!
Thank you for sharing your family's experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this process. I'm sorry for the loss of your mom. The one-page summary idea is brilliant! I'm definitely going to create something like that with all our key information in one easy-to-find place. It sounds like being organized really does make a difference when dealing with SSA during such a difficult time. I appreciate you taking the time to share these practical tips along with confirming the benefit rules.
Emma Olsen
Does anyone know if the benefit increase happens RIGHT AWAY after they do the recalculation?? Or is there another waiting period? With Social Security there's ALWAYS some complication they don't tell you about until afterwards!!!
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Makayla Shoemaker
•The benefit increase is applied immediately once the recalculation is completed (typically in October of the year following your work year). There's no additional waiting period - you'll simply see the increased amount in your payment. Sometimes you might receive a small retroactive payment if the increase applies to benefits you've already received in the current year.
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Noah Irving
This is such great information! I'm in a similar situation - took early retirement at 62 but now considering part-time work. Reading through all these responses, I'm curious about one thing: does it matter HOW MUCH you earn when it comes to the recalculation? Like, if I only work part-time and earn say $15,000 a year, would that still potentially increase my benefit if it's higher than one of my lower earning years from the past? Or do the new earnings need to be substantial to make any meaningful difference in the monthly payment? Also, for those who've been through this process - do you get any notification from SSA when they do the recalculation, or does your payment just quietly increase one month?
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Liam McGuire
•Great questions! Yes, even part-time earnings of $15,000 can definitely increase your benefit if that amount is higher than one of your lowest earning years in your top 35. Since you retired at 62, you might have some very low or zero earning years that could easily be replaced by even modest part-time work. The increase might seem small on a monthly basis, but remember it's permanent for the rest of your life, so even a $20-30 monthly increase adds up over time. And yes, SSA does send you a letter explaining the recalculation when it happens - they're actually pretty good about documenting benefit changes. The letter will show your old benefit amount, new amount, and briefly explain why it changed (usually says something like "due to additional earnings"). Just keep in mind that since you claimed at 62, you're subject to the earnings test until you reach your FRA, so watch those earning limits if you're still a few years away from full retirement age!
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