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I'm in almost the same boat (69, working full-time, taking SS since Jan 2025). My tax guy told me that the payroll withholding counts exactly the same as quarterly estimated payments. But he did say to check what my actual tax liability is likely to be. Don't forget that up to 85% of your SS benefits could be taxable depending on your total income. Make sure your extra $200/paycheck covers that. I'm having $275 extra taken out per paycheck just to be safe.
That's good to know! I think I might need to increase my withholding a bit to be safe. Did your tax person mention anything about penalties if you don't withhold enough?
Yes - he said if you don't pay enough throughout the year (either through withholding or quarterly payments), you can get hit with an "underpayment penalty." But he also mentioned there's a safe harbor - if you pay at least 100% of what you owed last year (or 110% if your income is over $150k), you won't get penalized even if you end up owing more when you file.
I went through this exact same situation last year when I turned 67 and started collecting SS while still working! The frustration with getting clear answers from both SSA and IRS is so real - I must have spent 6 hours on hold between the two agencies. What you're doing with the extra $200 withholding is perfect. I did something similar and had no issues at tax time. The key thing I learned is that as long as your total withholding (regular + extra) covers either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax, you're golden. No penalties, no quarterly payment forms needed. One tip: keep good records of when you started the extra withholding and how much. It helped me when I filed my taxes to have everything documented. Also, don't let anyone scare you into thinking you need to do BOTH withholding AND quarterly payments - that's overkill and completely unnecessary. You're handling this the smart way. The extra withholding from your paycheck is actually better than quarterly payments because the IRS treats it as if you paid evenly throughout the year, even though you didn't start until August.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's such a relief to hear from someone who actually went through this exact situation. The part about keeping good records is really smart advice - I'll make sure to document everything about my extra withholding. Six hours on hold sounds about right for what I experienced too! It's crazy how neither agency wants to give you a straight answer about something so many working retirees deal with. Your confirmation that the extra withholding worked perfectly for you gives me a lot more confidence that I'm on the right track.
I read somewhere that for couples with big differences in their benefit amounts, there's almost ALWAYS an advantage to the lower-benefit spouse filing early and the higher-benefit spouse delaying, especially considering survivor benefits. Has anyone else seen research on this? Or is this just conventional wisdom that doesn't always hold up with actual numbers?
You're referencing what's often called the "62/70 Split" strategy, which does tend to optimize benefits for couples with significant benefit disparities. The research supporting this comes from economists like William Reichenstein and William Meyer, who've published extensively on Social Security claiming strategies. The lower earner filing early provides income during the delay period, while the higher earner's delay maximizes the eventual survivor benefit. The strategy is particularly effective when: 1. There's a significant PIA difference (as in OP's case) 2. The couple has sufficient assets to fund the delay period 3. At least one spouse (typically the lower earner) has a strong likelihood of exceeding average life expectancy But you're right - actual numbers should always be run for individual situations, as specific circumstances can sometimes lead to different optimal strategies.
As someone who went through this exact decision process two years ago, I can share what we learned. My wife and I had a similar PIA gap ($850 vs $3,900), and after consulting with a fee-only financial planner who specialized in Social Security, we ended up with the "62/70 split" strategy that others have mentioned. The key insight was realizing that the break-even calculations change dramatically when you factor in the survivor benefit scenario. Yes, the lifetime benefit difference might seem small when both spouses are alive, but the protection for the surviving spouse (likely you) is substantial. We also discovered that having other retirement assets actually makes delaying MORE valuable, not less, because you can afford to let the higher benefit grow while living off savings. The enhanced survivor benefit essentially becomes a form of longevity insurance that you can't buy anywhere else. One practical tip: Get your actual benefit estimates from SSA (not calculators) and run the numbers assuming you live to 90-95, not just average life expectancy. The differences become much more meaningful over longer time horizons. Given your solid retirement savings, I'd strongly consider having your husband delay to 70 while you file at 62. The survivor benefit protection alone is probably worth it.
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your real experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone who actually implemented the 62/70 split with similar circumstances. I'm curious about one thing: when you say to get actual benefit estimates from SSA rather than calculators, did you find significant differences between what the calculators projected versus what SSA told you? I've been relying heavily on online calculators but now I'm wondering if I should prioritize getting the official numbers first before making any final decisions.
@Maya Lewis, thank you so much for sharing your experience! This is exactly the kind of real-world perspective I needed. Your situation sounds nearly identical to ours, and it's reassuring to hear that the 62/70 split worked well for you. I'm particularly interested in your point about using other retirement assets to fund the delay period. We've been thinking about it backwards - worrying that we'd need Social Security income earlier. But you're right that having the $900K in retirement accounts actually gives us the flexibility to optimize the Social Security strategy for maximum long-term protection. The longevity insurance concept really resonates. When I think about potentially living 20-30 years as a widow (like so many women do), that enhanced survivor benefit becomes much more valuable than the relatively small difference in total lifetime benefits while we're both alive. Did you find that your financial planner used any specific software or methodology that was particularly helpful in modeling the different scenarios?
Thank you all so much for the helpful information. I'm going to try calling SSA again tomorrow and ask specifically about: 1. The exact amount I would receive if I switch to survivor benefits now vs. at my FRA 2. Whether I should continue with my own benefit or switch to survivor benefits 3. That $255 death benefit I hadn't heard about I'll ask to speak with a technical expert if the representative seems unsure. I'm feeling much more prepared now thanks to all your explanations. I'll update here once I get some answers from SSA.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Isabella. You're asking all the right questions and it sounds like you're getting great advice here. One additional thing to consider - when you call SSA tomorrow, also ask about retroactive benefits. Since your husband passed in February and you're just now getting this sorted out, you may be entitled to survivor benefits dating back to the month after his death. This could result in a lump sum payment for the months you've missed. The SSA doesn't always mention this automatically, so make sure to specifically ask about it. Also, bring a copy of the death certificate when you visit in person if the phone calls don't work out - sometimes having all documentation in hand speeds up the process. Wishing you the best with this difficult situation.
I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now! Got approved for SSDI in March 2024 with an onset date in late 2023, and I'm pretty sure my 2023 earnings aren't reflected in my benefit amount either. Reading through all these responses is super helpful - I had no idea about the AERO process or that there was a specific name for what we're waiting for. It's frustrating that SSA doesn't communicate this stuff clearly upfront. Like, a simple notice saying "we'll automatically review your case in October to include any additional earnings" would save everyone so much anxiety. @Ravi - definitely keep us posted on what happens! I'm planning to wait until mid-December before calling, based on what everyone's saying here. Fingers crossed we both get those retroactive payments!
I'm also in a similar boat - got approved earlier this year and suspect my recent earnings aren't included! It's really frustrating how unclear SSA is about these processes. I had no idea about AERO either until reading this thread. The lack of communication from SSA about what to expect timeline-wise is honestly one of the most stressful parts of this whole experience. Thanks for mentioning you'll keep us posted - I'm curious to see how both your cases turn out. Definitely going to bookmark this thread and follow the December timeline advice everyone's shared!
Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work as a disability advocate and see this issue come up frequently. The AERO process that Omar mentioned is real, but it's not as reliable as it should be. In my experience, about 30-40% of cases that should get automatic recomputations don't happen on schedule. A few additional tips: 1. Document everything - keep records of your 2023 earnings (W2s, tax returns, etc.) 2. If you do call SSA, ask for a case summary to be sent to you in writing 3. Consider filing a written request for recomputation if phone calls don't work - sometimes written requests get processed differently The most important thing is to be persistent but patient. SSA is understaffed and these recomputations can take time to process even when they do them. But you're absolutely entitled to have all your earnings years properly considered, so don't give up! Also, for those mentioning congressional help - that's a great nuclear option if SSA isn't responsive after multiple attempts.
Diego Rojas
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful information! This cleared up so much confusion. Based on what I'm hearing, it sounds like my best strategy is to continue working until my FRA and then apply for benefits - either my own or ex-spouse benefits, whichever is higher at that point. I'm going to try to get through to SSA to confirm all these details for my specific situation. It's frustrating that these rules are so complicated, but I'm grateful for all your insights!
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Anastasia Sokolov
•That's the smartest approach. One last tip: about 3-4 months before you reach your FRA, go ahead and schedule an appointment with SSA to review both benefit options. By then, they'll have your complete earnings record (including these additional years of work), and can give you precise benefit estimates. Good luck!
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Gemma Andrews
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - since you mentioned your ex's benefit will be about twice yours, make sure you're comparing apples to apples. When you say "twice what mine would be," are you comparing both benefits at full retirement age? Also, don't forget that your own benefit can continue to grow with delayed retirement credits if you wait past your FRA (up to 8% per year until age 70), but ex-spouse benefits don't get those delayed credits. So depending on how much higher your ex's benefit actually is, it might be worth running the numbers on waiting until 70 for your own benefit vs. taking the ex-spouse benefit at FRA. The Social Security website has a retirement estimator that can help you model different scenarios, though talking to SSA directly is still your best bet for personalized advice!
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