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Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I called my local SSA office this morning and got some additional information. They confirmed what many of you said - my son can receive both benefits, but the SSI amount will be reduced. They also explained that the autism diagnosis doesn't affect his current benefits from his dad at all. I'm going to go ahead with the SSI application mainly for the Medicaid coverage. Really appreciate all your help navigating this complicated system!
That's great news! Make sure you keep copies of ALL his medical records related to the autism diagnosis when you apply for SSI. They'll need documentation from doctors, therapists, and even his preschool if he attends one. Good luck with everything!
I'm so glad you got the confirmation you needed from SSA! Just wanted to add that when you do apply for SSI, make sure to ask about expedited processing if available. Some offices can fast-track applications for children with certain conditions like autism, especially if you have all the medical documentation ready. Also, don't be discouraged if the first application gets denied - it's unfortunately common and doesn't mean your son doesn't qualify. Many families have to go through the appeals process. The most important thing is that you're getting him the services he needs. Wishing you and your son all the best!
This is really helpful advice about the expedited processing! I didn't know that was even an option. Do you happen to know what specific documentation they look for to qualify for the fast-track? I have his diagnosis letter from the developmental pediatrician and some early intervention assessments, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important before I submit the application.
For expedited processing, they typically want comprehensive diagnostic reports from qualified specialists (like your developmental pediatrician), functional assessments showing how the autism affects daily activities, and any therapy evaluations (speech, occupational, behavioral). School IEP documents can also help if he's in an early intervention program. The key is showing the severity of functional limitations. Each SSA office has slightly different requirements, so I'd recommend calling ahead to ask what specific documentation they prefer for autism cases. Having everything organized and ready definitely helps speed up the process!
As someone who just went through this process with my own family, I want to emphasize something that saved us a lot of headaches - when you do contact SSA, ask them to run a "what-if" scenario calculation for you. They can show you exactly how different claiming strategies would affect both your benefits and your son's. One thing I learned is that the timing of when you claim can make a huge difference. Since your son is likely receiving DAC benefits on your deceased husband's record at 75% of his PIA, and those are protected from family maximum reductions, you might actually have more flexibility than you think. Also, keep detailed notes of every conversation with SSA - date, time, representative's name, and what they told you. I had three different reps give me three different answers about family maximums, so having everything documented helped when I had to escalate to a supervisor to get the correct information. The calculations can be complex, but once you get the right person who understands DAC benefits, they can walk you through all the scenarios step by step.
This is such great advice about asking for "what-if" scenarios! I'm definitely going to request that when I call SSA. The documentation tip is especially helpful - I've heard so many stories about getting inconsistent information from different representatives. It's reassuring to know that DAC benefits have those protections from family maximum reductions. Did you find that having all your documentation helped speed up the process when you did need to escalate to a supervisor? I'm trying to prepare myself for what might be a long process of getting clear answers about our specific situation.
I wanted to share something that might be helpful - when dealing with complex Social Security situations like yours, consider requesting a formal benefit estimate in writing rather than just calling. You can submit a request through your my Social Security account online or by visiting a local SSA office. This forces them to provide you with documented calculations rather than verbal estimates that might vary between representatives. Also, since you mentioned you're 62 and still working full-time, make sure to ask about the "do-over" rule if you do decide to claim survivor benefits early. If your financial situation changes or you get better information later, you have a limited window to withdraw your application and repay any benefits received, which could allow you to restart with a different strategy. The interaction between survivor benefits, your future retirement benefits, and your son's DAC benefits is definitely one of the more complex scenarios in Social Security. Don't feel bad about being confused - even SSA representatives sometimes need to consult with specialists for these multi-generational family maximum situations!
This is excellent advice about getting everything in writing! I never thought about requesting a formal benefit estimate through the online portal - that's so much smarter than relying on phone conversations that might be inconsistent. The "do-over" rule is also something I hadn't heard about before. Since I'm still working and not in immediate financial distress, having that safety net of being able to withdraw and restart could give me more confidence to test the waters with survivor benefits while I'm still employed. Do you know how long that withdrawal window typically lasts? I want to make sure I understand all my options before making any moves, especially with the family maximum complications involving my son's benefits.
Just wanted to add one more important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your wife is caring for your child who is under 16 or disabled, she could potentially receive survivor benefits immediately (regardless of her age) as a "mother's benefit" or "caregiver benefit." This benefit would be 75% of your PIA and wouldn't have the same age restrictions as regular survivor benefits. Also, don't forget that any unmarried children under 18 (or up to 19 if still in high school, or any age if disabled before 22) would also be eligible for survivor benefits of 75% of your PIA each. These family benefits are subject to a family maximum, but it's something to factor into your overall planning. The planning you're doing now is really smart - having all this information ahead of time can make an incredibly difficult situation much more manageable for your wife.
Thanks for bringing up the mother's/caregiver benefit - that's such an important point that often gets overlooked! Even though the original poster didn't mention having minor children, this is crucial information for anyone in similar situations who might be reading this thread. It's reassuring to know that surviving spouses with young children don't have to wait until 60 to receive some support. The fact that you're thinking through all these scenarios really shows how much you care about your family's financial security.
This is such valuable information everyone is sharing! As someone who works with families going through these situations, I want to emphasize one key point that might not be obvious: the timing of when you pass away can significantly impact the survivor benefit calculation. Since you're 63 and haven't claimed yet, if something happened to you now, your wife's survivor benefit would be based on your current PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). But if you wait until, say, age 67 or 70, she'd get the benefit of any delayed retirement credits you've earned - which could be 24-32% higher than your PIA. However, there's a balance to consider: waiting longer means fewer years of potential survivor benefits. It might be worth running the numbers both ways - claiming earlier vs. waiting for delayed retirement credits - to see what maximizes the total lifetime benefit for your family situation. Also, make sure your wife knows where to find all the important documents she'd need (your Social Security number, marriage certificate, death certificate, etc.) and consider creating a simple guide for her about the steps to take with SSA. The last thing you want is for her to be searching for paperwork during an already difficult time.
This is excellent advice about the timing considerations! The point about delayed retirement credits potentially increasing survivor benefits by 24-32% is huge - that could mean thousands more per year for the surviving spouse. But you're absolutely right that it's a balancing act between maximizing the benefit amount versus the number of years it could be received. Creating that document guide is such a thoughtful suggestion too. I've seen families struggle just to locate basic paperwork during grief, and having everything organized ahead of time would be such a gift to a surviving spouse. Maybe include account information, contact details for SSA, and even a simple checklist of steps to take. The more you can handle the logistics now, the more your wife can focus on healing if the worst happens.
Great questions! I'll try to help based on what I learned when my mom went through this process: 1. There isn't a specific form to fill out beforehand - it's all handled during the phone appointment. The SSA rep will gather all the info and process the application during that call. They'll send any paperwork that needs signatures by mail. 2. For documents, definitely have ready: marriage certificate, death certificate, birth certificates (yours and spouse's), Social Security cards, last few years of tax returns, bank account info for direct deposit, and any military discharge papers if applicable. Also helpful to have your spouse's W-2s or self-employment records to verify earnings history. 3. You absolutely need to ask them to verify the delayed retirement credits calculation! Don't assume they'll get it right automatically. My mom had to specifically ask them to walk through the math showing how they calculated her benefit amount. The first rep got it wrong and we had to call back to get it corrected. I'd also suggest creating a simple one-page summary with all your key info (SSNs, dates of birth, marriage date, etc.) so your wife doesn't have to hunt for details during an already stressful call. The more organized and prepared she is, the smoother the process will go. The SSA website really doesn't prepare you for the reality of dealing with their system. These real-world experiences are invaluable!
This is incredibly thorough - thank you! I'm definitely going to create that one-page summary you mentioned. It's smart to have everything in one place so she doesn't have to scramble for information during what will already be an emotional and stressful time. The point about verifying the delayed retirement credits calculation is especially important. It sounds like even though the law says she should get those credits, you can't trust that SSA will automatically apply them correctly. I'm starting to think I should document not just where our papers are, but also the key questions she needs to ask and the specific benefits she should be entitled to. Has anyone found it helpful to bring a family member or friend to the SSA appointment for support? I'm wondering if having someone else there to take notes and ask follow-up questions might be beneficial, especially since it sounds like the reps sometimes rush through the process.
As someone who just went through the survivor benefits process 6 months ago, I can confirm that bringing someone with you is EXTREMELY helpful. My sister came with me to the SSA office and it made all the difference. She took notes while I focused on answering questions, and she caught several things the rep glossed over quickly. A few additional tips from my experience: - Write down the rep's name and direct number if they give one - Ask for a written summary of what benefits you'll receive and when - If they say you're not eligible for something, ask them to explain exactly why in writing - Don't leave without a clear timeline of when your first payment will arrive One thing that really helped was that my husband had written a simple letter before he passed explaining our situation and what benefits I should be entitled to. When the SSA rep tried to shortchange me on the delayed retirement credits calculation, I was able to reference his notes and push back confidently. The rep "suddenly" found the error and corrected it. The whole system is unfortunately designed to wear you down, but being prepared and having support makes it manageable. Document everything and don't be afraid to advocate for yourself!
This is such valuable advice, thank you for sharing your experience! The idea of your husband writing a letter beforehand is brilliant - that's something I never would have thought of but could be incredibly powerful when dealing with SSA reps who might try to shortchange benefits. I'm curious about the written summary you mentioned asking for. Did they readily provide that, or did you have to push for it? It seems like having everything documented would be crucial, especially given all the stories about getting different answers from different reps. Also, when you say the rep "suddenly" found the error after you referenced your husband's notes - that's exactly what I'm worried about for my wife. It sounds like they might initially try to give lower amounts hoping people won't know better. Having that documentation and being prepared to advocate seems essential. Did your husband include specific dollar amounts in his letter, or more general information about what benefits should be calculated? I'm thinking of putting together something similar and want to make sure I include the right level of detail.
Emma Wilson
As someone who's been following Social Security policy changes closely, I want to add a few practical considerations for your decision. The WEP/GPO repeal is indeed a game-changer, but you're right to think carefully about timing. Since you mentioned having 11 zeros in your 35-year calculation, continuing to work until 70 serves a dual purpose: replacing those zeros with actual earnings AND getting the 8% delayed retirement credits. That's potentially a significant boost to your monthly benefit. Also, keep in mind that your teaching pension is substantial at $3,750/month, so you're not in a position where you desperately need the Social Security income right now. The math strongly favors waiting if you're in good health and have family longevity on your side. One tip: create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it should eventually reflect the WEP elimination in your benefit estimates, though as others noted, the system updates are still rolling out.
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Isaiah Cross
•This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about the dual benefit of working until 70 - both replacing zeros AND getting the delayed credits. That makes the decision much clearer. I do have a my Social Security account but you're right, the estimates still show the old WEP-reduced amounts. I'll keep checking periodically for updates. Given that I'm financially stable with my pension, waiting seems like the smart move. Thanks for breaking down all the factors so clearly!
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Mohammed Khan
Congratulations on reaching this milestone! The WEP/GPO repeal is absolutely life-changing for so many of us with government pensions. I'm in a similar boat - retired from the postal service with 28 years and have been agonizing over my Social Security timing. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly enlightening. The key insight that really resonates is that with your pension already providing solid income, you have the luxury of optimizing for maximum lifetime benefits rather than immediate need. With 11 zeros to replace and the 8% annual credits, waiting until 70 seems like a no-brainer mathematically. I'm curious though - have you considered what happens to your spousal benefits if you're married? The WEP elimination affects those calculations too. Also, for those still waiting on SSA system updates, I called last week and the representative mentioned they're expecting the new benefit calculations to be available online by late spring, so keep checking those estimates!
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Ella Harper
•Thanks for bringing up spousal benefits - that's something I hadn't fully considered! I am married, and my spouse has their own Social Security record from private sector work, so the WEP elimination should help with any spousal benefit calculations too. Good to know about the late spring timeline for updated online estimates - I'll mark my calendar to check back then. It sounds like we're both in similar situations with government pensions giving us the flexibility to optimize timing. Your point about having the "luxury" to wait really puts it in perspective. Between replacing those zeros and the delayed credits, the math seems pretty clear. Appreciate you sharing your experience with calling SSA too!
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