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Wait I'm still confused about one thing - if she takes her own benefit now at 62 ($850) and then her husband files at his FRA when she's 64, will her spousal benefit be based on her being 62 or 64? Does she get penalized based on when she first filed for ANY benefit or based on her age when she becomes eligible for spousal?
The reduction is based on when she first filed for her own benefits (62 in this case). Once you file for any retirement benefit, that early filing reduction sticks with you and affects your spousal benefits as well. This is called deemed filing - when you file for one benefit, you're deemed to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for either now or in the future. The reduction percentages are different for own benefits vs. spousal, but the early filing impact remains.
I'm dealing with a very similar situation and after months of research, I think I can help clarify a few things. You're absolutely right that you cannot get spousal benefits until your husband actually files - there's no way around this rule anymore since they eliminated file-and-suspend. However, I want to make sure you understand exactly what happens with the "spousal top-up" when you file early. If you take your $850 at 62, your spousal benefit later won't simply be 50% of his benefit minus your $850. Instead, it's calculated based on the difference between your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA - what you'd get at full retirement age) and 50% of his PIA, then that difference gets reduced because you filed early. So if your PIA is around $1,200 (which would be reduced to $850 at 62), and his PIA is $3,200, then 50% of his would be $1,600. The spousal top-up would be based on $1,600 - $1,200 = $400, but that $400 would be reduced for early filing. You might only get an additional $300 or so when he files. I'd strongly suggest getting your exact PIA numbers from SSA before making the final decision. The math can be surprising either way!
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for breaking down the actual math! I had no idea the spousal top-up calculation was so complex. So essentially I'd be looking at my current $850 plus maybe only $300-400 more when my husband files, rather than getting anywhere close to half of his $3,200 benefit. That's a much smaller total than I was expecting. I definitely need to get those exact PIA numbers from SSA before I make this decision. Do you happen to know if there's a specific form or document I should request to get those numbers?
Another important point: If you apply for spousal benefits now and your husband passes away later, you can switch to survivor benefits. The reduction in your survivor benefit would be based on your age at the time you apply for survivor benefits, not when you applied for spousal benefits. If you can manage financially, waiting until your full retirement age to claim spousal benefits would give you the full 50% of his PIA. However, there's always the time value of money to consider - getting some benefits for 4 years versus waiting for the full amount. I suggest creating a simple spreadsheet to calculate your lifetime expected benefits under different claiming scenarios. This can help you make a more informed decision based on your specific financial situation.
I went through something very similar with my mom a few years ago! One thing that really helped us was getting her complete earnings record from SSA (not just the online summary) to make sure all her work history was captured. You can request this by calling or visiting a local office. Also, since you mentioned your husband just turned 65, his SSDI benefits will automatically convert to regular retirement benefits at his full retirement age, but the dollar amount stays exactly the same. This won't affect your spousal benefit calculations at all. For what it's worth, we decided to have my mom start her spousal benefits early because we needed the monthly income, even though it meant a permanent reduction. Every family's situation is different, but sometimes the guaranteed money now is worth more than the potential for higher payments later. The peace of mind was valuable too. Have you considered visiting your local SSA office in person? I know it's a hassle, but we found the face-to-face service was much better than trying to get through on the phone.
Thank you for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to hear how it worked out for your family. I think you're right about visiting the local office - I've been putting it off because of the hassle, but it sounds like it might be worth the trip to get clear answers face-to-face. I'll also look into getting my complete earnings record like you suggested. The peace of mind factor is definitely something to consider too - sometimes knowing you have that monthly income coming in is worth more than optimizing for the highest possible amount later.
I'm new to this community and going through a very similar situation with my disabled daughter's SSI application. Our representative also told us that property taxes and homeowners insurance weren't needed, which immediately seemed wrong to me since these are major housing expenses. Reading through all of your experiences has been incredibly helpful and confirms my suspicions that this is a widespread training issue across SSA offices. The consistency of representatives giving identical incorrect information is really concerning, especially when it affects benefit calculations for our most vulnerable children. Emma Wilson's insider perspective has been invaluable - having confirmation from someone who actually worked in the system that ALL housing expenses should be included gives me the confidence I need to call back and advocate properly. I had no idea Technical Experts who specialize in childhood SSI claims even existed, but I'm definitely going to ask for one when I call. It's frustrating that we have to become SSA policy experts just to ensure our disabled children get the benefits they're entitled to, but I'm grateful for this community support. The advice about documentation, POMS references, and being persistent but polite is exactly what I needed to hear. Rachel, I hope your call went well! Please update us when you can - your experience will definitely help guide the rest of us who are dealing with this same issue.
I'm new here but wanted to share that I went through something very similar with my disabled son's SSI application last year. Our initial representative told us the same thing about property taxes and insurance not being needed, and we ended up with a benefit calculation that seemed too low. After reading stories like yours in various forums, I called back and specifically asked for a Technical Expert. The difference was night and day - the TE immediately recognized that all housing costs should have been included and corrected our case. It took about 6 weeks to get the adjustment processed, but my son's monthly benefit increased significantly once they factored in our complete housing expenses. The key things that helped me were: 1) Being persistent but polite when asking for a specialist, 2) Having all my documentation ready (property tax bills, insurance statements, utility bills), and 3) asking them to note in the file that incomplete information was collected during the initial interview due to rep error, not parent oversight. Don't wait - call as soon as possible before they finalize the determination. Once it's processed incorrectly, fixing it takes much longer. Your grandson deserves the full benefit amount he's entitled to, and you're absolutely right to question this. Good luck!
Isaac, thank you so much for sharing your success story! It's incredibly encouraging to hear from someone who went through this exact situation and got it resolved. The fact that your son's benefit increased significantly once they included all housing expenses really drives home how important this issue is. Your advice about being persistent but polite when asking for a Technical Expert is spot-on - I think that's going to be key for all of us dealing with this. And having all the documentation ready beforehand is such a smart approach. I'm definitely going to follow your example and ask them to note that the incomplete information was due to rep error, not my oversight. The timeline you mentioned (6 weeks for adjustment) is really helpful to know too. While that seems long when you're waiting for benefits, it's much better than going through a full appeal process like some others have mentioned. Your point about not waiting until after they finalize the determination is crucial. I'm planning to call first thing tomorrow morning, and your success story gives me confidence that this can be resolved if I'm prepared and persistent. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience - it really helps to know that other families have successfully navigated this challenge!
Isaac, your success story gives me so much hope! It's exactly what I needed to hear right now. The fact that you were able to get your son's benefit amount corrected by working with a Technical Expert proves that persistence really does pay off when dealing with these issues. Your three-step approach is incredibly practical and I'm going to follow it exactly: be persistent but polite, have all documentation ready, and make sure they note the rep error in the file. The 6-week timeline for adjustment is also really helpful to know - while it's frustrating to wait that long, it's so much better than the appeal process that others have mentioned. I'm calling tomorrow morning and your experience gives me confidence that I can get this resolved before they finalize my grandson's determination. Thank you for taking the time to share your story - it's proof that advocating for our children really can make a difference in getting them the full benefits they deserve!
I'm dealing with the exact same situation! Applied online in mid-February for benefits starting in September 2025 (I'll be 66 and 4 months). Haven't heard a peep from SSA and my status has been stuck on "under review" for almost a month now. I was really starting to panic, especially after seeing so many posts about people getting calls within 48 hours of applying. But after reading through all these responses, I feel so much better! The explanation about SSA prioritizing immediate start cases first and then working backwards makes perfect sense. Since we're all still 5-6 months out from our benefit start dates, we're just not urgent cases right now. It's actually reassuring to know that no contact often means everything is proceeding normally for straightforward applications like ours. Thanks for posting this question - you've helped calm the nerves of quite a few of us who are in the same boat!
I'm so glad to see I'm not alone in this! I applied around the same time as you (mid-February) for benefits starting in August 2025, and I've been having the exact same worries. It's incredible how much anxiety we put ourselves through when everything is actually proceeding normally! Reading all these responses has been like a masterclass in how SSA really operates behind the scenes. The fact that so many people have shared nearly identical experiences - no calls, "under review" status for weeks, then everything processing smoothly - really drives home that this is just how the system works for delayed start applications. I think I'm going to bookmark this thread to come back to if I start getting anxious again before my August start date. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's made such a difference in my stress level!
I'm in almost the exact same situation and this thread has been a lifesaver for my anxiety! Applied online in early February for benefits starting in September 2025 (I'll be 66 and 2 months). Like so many others here, no call from SSA and my status has been "under review" for over a month. I was convinced I'd made some error on my application, especially after seeing posts about people getting calls within days. What really helped me understand was the explanation about SSA processing applications in different queues based on start date proximity. It makes total sense that they'd prioritize immediate benefit cases over those of us who are still 6+ months out. The fact that so many people here have shared nearly identical experiences - no contact, months of "under review" status, then smooth processing - really confirms this is just how the system works for delayed start applications. I'm definitely going to follow the advice about waiting until I'm about 3 months out before getting concerned. For now, I'll just check my mySocialSecurity account monthly instead of obsessing over it weekly. Thanks to everyone who shared their timelines - it's amazing how much peace of mind comes from knowing this is completely normal!
Talia Klein
This is such a great discussion! I'm in a similar situation and have been wrestling with the same decision. One additional consideration I'd add is to make sure you and your wife both understand the "deemed filing" rules that might apply if she claims benefits before her FRA while you're still alive. If she files for her own retirement benefit before reaching her FRA and you're already collecting, she would be required to also file for spousal benefits at the same time (if eligible), and both would be permanently reduced. This could affect the timing strategy some couples use. Also, have you considered using the Social Security calculators on ssa.gov to run different scenarios? They can help you see the break-even points for different claiming strategies. Given your family's longevity and the significant benefit difference, delaying to 70 really does seem like the smart move for maximizing lifetime household benefits.
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Nia Harris
•This is really helpful additional information! I hadn't fully considered the deemed filing rules and how they might affect our timing strategy. My wife is 64 now, so if she needed to claim her own benefit before her FRA while I'm collecting, that could complicate things. I'll definitely check out those SSA calculators you mentioned to run through different scenarios. It's reassuring to hear from someone else in a similar situation who's also leaning toward the delay-to-70 strategy. Thanks for adding these important details to consider!
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QuantumQuasar
As someone who works with retirement planning, I want to emphasize that your strategy is excellent and add one more consideration: make sure to keep detailed records of your Social Security decisions and the reasoning behind them. When your wife eventually needs to claim survivor benefits, having documentation about when you claimed, what your benefit amount was, and any relevant dates can make the process much smoother for her. The SSA keeps records, but having your own documentation can be helpful. Also, consider discussing this plan with a fee-only financial advisor who can help you coordinate your Social Security strategy with your other retirement accounts (401k, IRA, etc.). Sometimes the optimal Social Security claiming strategy affects how you should draw down other retirement assets for tax efficiency. Your plan to delay until 70 is textbook perfect for your situation - higher earner with longevity and a spouse with significantly lower benefits. You're setting both of you up for maximum lifetime benefits.
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