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Thanks everyone for all this helpful information! I'm new to navigating the SSA system and this thread has been incredibly valuable. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like the key is really planning around these holiday closures. @Ellie Simpson - your breakdown of the different processing timelines was especially helpful. I had no idea that DDS works on a different schedule than regular SSA processing. For anyone else reading this who might be in a similar situation, it seems like the consensus is either get everything submitted well before December 20th or wait until after the New Year rush dies down in mid-January. The protective filing date option that was mentioned could be a real lifesaver for people caught in between those windows.

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right - this thread has been a goldmine of practical information. I'm also relatively new to dealing with SSA and found the protective filing date tip particularly eye-opening. It's reassuring to see so many people sharing their real experiences, even if some of them highlight how frustrating the system can be during busy periods. The December 20th deadline seems to be the consensus from multiple people here, which gives those of us planning ahead a clear target to work with.

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This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who's dealt with SSA holiday delays before, I can confirm that the December 20th cutoff date mentioned by several people here is spot on. I submitted paperwork on December 22nd last year and didn't hear anything back until late February - it was a nightmare. One additional tip I'd add is to screenshot or print confirmation pages if you're submitting online during this period, because their system can get glitchy during high-volume times right before holidays. Also, if you do end up needing to call during January, try calling right when they open (8 AM local time) - you'll still wait, but it's usually shorter than calling later in the day when everyone else is also trying to get through.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - I turn 70 in January 2026 and I'm currently receiving spousal benefits. Do I need to do anything special to switch from spousal benefits to my own retirement benefits when I hit 70? I'm assuming my own benefits will be higher at that point with all the delayed retirement credits, but I want to make sure there isn't some automatic conversion I need to be aware of. Should I still apply 3-4 months in advance even though I'm already in the SSA system receiving spousal benefits? This thread has been so helpful for understanding the timing, but I'm wondering if being on spousal benefits changes the process at all.

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Great question about the spousal benefits transition! You're right to think ahead about this. Yes, you should definitely still apply 3-4 months in advance even though you're already receiving spousal benefits. SSA doesn't automatically switch you from spousal to your own retirement benefits - you need to actively apply for your own benefits. When you apply, they'll compare your spousal benefit amount to what your own retirement benefit would be at age 70 (with all delayed retirement credits), and you'll receive whichever is higher. In most cases, your own benefit at 70 will be higher than spousal benefits, but it's not guaranteed depending on your earnings history vs your spouse's. The good news is that the timing advice in this thread still applies - request January 2026 as your start month to get the maximum delayed retirement credits. Just make sure to mention to SSA that you want to switch from spousal to your own retirement benefits when you apply!

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I'm a newcomer here but this discussion has been incredibly eye-opening! I turn 70 in December 2025 and had been planning to wait until January 2026 to start benefits, thinking I'd get some kind of "bonus" for waiting the extra month. Reading through everyone's experiences, I now realize I would have been throwing away a full month of maximum benefits for absolutely no reason! It's amazing how the term "delayed retirement credits" can be so misleading - it really does make you think you should keep delaying indefinitely. But the consensus here is crystal clear: age 70 is the finish line, not a checkpoint. I'll be applying this September for December 2025 benefits. Thank you all for sharing your real-world experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical advice you can't get from the official SSA materials!

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Welcome to the community! I'm so glad you found this thread before making that costly mistake of waiting until January 2026. It's really eye-opening how many people (myself included when I was researching this) get tripped up by the "delayed" terminology. You're absolutely right that the official SSA materials don't make this nearly as clear as they should. The real-world experiences shared here have been invaluable - it's one thing to read the technical rules, but hearing from people who actually went through the process successfully really drives the point home. Your September application timeline for December benefits sounds perfect! You'll have plenty of processing time and can rest easy knowing you're maximizing every dollar you've earned. Thanks for sharing your initial misconception too - I bet there are other lurkers here who had the same thought about waiting that extra month and will benefit from seeing your realization!

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This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the same panic when I first started collecting early benefits while still working. What really helped me was understanding that there are basically three separate "buckets" to think about: 1. **Earnings Test**: Only wages/self-employment income count. SS benefits and IRA withdrawals are ignored completely. 2. **Income Taxes**: IRA withdrawals + other income can make more of your SS benefits taxable (but this is totally separate from the earnings test). 3. **Medicare Premiums**: If your income gets really high, you might pay higher Medicare premiums (IRMAA), and IRA withdrawals DO count for this. The key is that these are three completely different calculations! Your financial planner was probably thinking about the tax implications while your brother-in-law was focused on the earnings test. Both can be "right" about their specific piece but wrong about the others. I'd suggest getting clarity from your financial planner about which specific issue they were addressing.

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This breakdown is incredibly helpful! I think you're absolutely right that my financial planner and brother-in-law were talking about different things entirely. The "three buckets" way of thinking about it makes so much sense. I'm definitely going to follow up with my financial planner to clarify which specific issue they were warning me about - probably the tax implications since they handle my tax prep too. This whole thread has been a lifesaver for understanding the difference between the earnings test and everything else. Thank you!

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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through something similar last year. I was 64, taking early SS benefits, and working part-time at a retail job. I was SO worried about the earnings limit that I actually turned down extra shifts during the holidays! Turns out I was being way too conservative - I could have earned up to that $22,320 limit from my JOB without any issues. My SS payments themselves don't count at all toward that limit. Also took some money from my 401k for home repairs and that didn't affect the earnings test either. The key thing I learned is to keep really good records of your work income throughout the year so you know exactly where you stand. Don't leave money on the table like I did by being overly cautious!

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Ugh, I feel you on being overly cautious! I'm in a similar boat - just started collecting at 62 and I've been so paranoid about going over the limit that I've probably missed out on some good opportunities too. Your story is a good reminder that I need to actually do the math instead of just worrying. I've been tracking every penny from my part-time work but had no idea the SS payments themselves don't count toward the limit. That seems so obvious now but I was definitely confused about it. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's helpful to know I'm not the only one who was being too conservative about this stuff!

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One more tip - when your wife selects her benefit start month during the application, the system will display a message showing the percentage reduction if she were to start early. If she's selected her FRA month correctly, it should show 0% reduction. If it shows ANY reduction percentage, stop and fix the start date right away because it means she's accidentally selected an early start date.

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thats a really good tip!! wish id known that when i applied, would have saved me a lot of trouble

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Another thing to consider - if your wife is still working when she applies, make sure to review the earnings test implications. Even though she's applying for benefits to start at FRA (which means no earnings test), SSA will ask about her current employment status and projected earnings. This won't affect her benefit amount since she's waiting until FRA, but it's good to have that information ready when filling out the application. Also, if she has any pension from work where she didn't pay Social Security taxes (like some government jobs), make sure to mention that during the application process as it could affect her benefit calculation through WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) or GPO (Government Pension Offset). The key is being thorough and double-checking everything before submitting!

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I'm going through a similar situation right now - turning 62 in a few months and trying to figure out all these earnings limits! This thread has been incredibly helpful. What I'm curious about is the timing aspect. Since you're turning 62 next month, are you planning to file for benefits immediately, or waiting until later in the year? I've read that the timing of when you first claim can affect how they calculate the earnings test in that first year. Also, has anyone dealt with the situation where your part-time employer offers you overtime or bonus pay? I'm wondering if there's a way to decline extra compensation if it would push you over the limit, or if you're just stuck once they pay it to you. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice you can't find in the official SSA publications!

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Great questions @Jacob Lewis! Regarding timing, I'm planning to file for benefits as soon as I turn 62 next month since I've already done the math on the permanent reduction vs. my immediate financial needs. You're absolutely right about the first-year rules though - SSA applies a monthly test in your first year if it's more favorable than the annual test. So even if I had high earnings earlier this year before claiming, they'd only look at my earnings from the month I start collecting benefits forward. As for overtime/bonus pay, you're unfortunately stuck once it's paid to you - it all counts as "earned income" for that tax year regardless of when you actually wanted to receive it. I've heard some people try to negotiate with their employers to defer bonuses until the following year, but that gets complicated with tax implications. Probably the safest approach is just to track your earnings closely and communicate with your employer about staying under the limit. Some part-time employers are understanding about retirees' earnings restrictions. The monthly test thing is actually pretty helpful for people like us who are claiming mid-year after potentially higher earnings earlier in the year!

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation myself! Just wanted to add that when I called SSA about this exact question, they emphasized that the key distinction is between "earned" vs "unearned" income. Your pension and 401k withdrawals are considered unearned income, so they don't count toward the earnings test at all. What really helped me was getting this confirmation directly from SSA in writing. I requested they mail me a letter explaining how the earnings test would apply to my specific situation. Having that documentation gave me peace of mind and something to reference if there were ever any questions later. Also, just a heads up - if you end up working more hours than expected during busy seasons, you can actually contact SSA mid-year to report higher estimated earnings. They can adjust your benefit payments prospectively rather than waiting until the end of the year to do a big reconciliation. This helps avoid those surprise benefit suspensions that others have mentioned. Your $15,000 part-time income puts you in a really good position - well under the limit with room for some unexpected overtime if needed!

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That's really smart to get the confirmation in writing from SSA! I hadn't thought about requesting a letter explaining how the earnings test applies to my specific situation, but that would definitely give me peace of mind. The idea of being able to report higher estimated earnings mid-year is also really helpful - I was worried about being stuck with surprise suspensions if I accidentally worked too many hours during busy periods. Your point about the "earned" vs "unearned" income distinction is exactly what I needed to hear. It's reassuring to know that multiple people have gotten this same confirmation directly from SSA. I think I'll call them myself to get that written documentation, just to have it for my records. Thanks for the practical advice about mid-year reporting - that could really save me from the stress that @Dylan Wright went through with unexpected benefit suspensions!

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