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One other consideration: if you take your benefits at 62 and continue working before your FRA, you'll be subject to the earnings test. In 2025, if you earn more than $22,750, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. After FRA, there's no earnings test. Just something to factor into your planning if you're still working.

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they give that money back to you later tho! my brother had benefits withheld and when he hit fra they recalculated and his check went up to account for the months they didnt pay him. not many people know that!

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Just wanted to add one more important detail that might help your planning - when you do eventually switch to survivor benefits, you can do it at any time after your husband passes, not just at your FRA. If you're already past FRA when he dies, you'd get the full survivor benefit immediately. But if you're younger than FRA, you can choose to take reduced survivor benefits right away OR wait until your FRA to get the full amount. This gives you flexibility based on your financial needs at the time. Given your age difference, this timing flexibility could be really valuable for your long-term planning.

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This is really helpful to know about the timing flexibility! So if something happened to my husband before I reach FRA, I could potentially take reduced survivor benefits temporarily if I need the income, then switch to full survivor benefits once I hit 67? Or would I be locked into the reduced amount once I start collecting survivor benefits?

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say how incredibly valuable this entire discussion has been! I'm about a year away from retirement and recently discovered I have a similar birth date discrepancy - my birth certificate shows one date but I've been using a different date (off by just one day) throughout my entire 35-year career. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a relief. The advice to check your Social Security statement online first is absolutely genius - I logged in immediately after reading this thread and was thrilled to see they have the date I've been using all along! What seemed like a potential retirement disaster is actually just a common administrative situation with clear procedures. The insights from the retired SSA claims representative and HR professional have been particularly reassuring. Learning that these 1-day discrepancies were historically common due to inconsistent record-keeping decades ago, and that SSA has established procedures for handling them, has given me so much peace of mind. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their real-world experiences and expertise. This community is proving to be an invaluable resource for navigating retirement planning - the practical wisdom here goes far beyond what you can find on official government websites!

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Welcome to the community, Dmitri! Your situation sounds very similar to what many of us have discovered. It's amazing how that one simple check of your Social Security statement can transform what feels like a crisis into a non-issue! I'm about 6 months behind you in retirement planning and found myself in the exact same boat - birth certificate showing one date, but I've used a different date consistently for decades. Like you, checking my SS statement online was such a relief when I saw they already had the "correct" date (the one I'd been using) in their system. The collective wisdom in this thread about SSA relying on consistent work history rather than minor birth certificate discrepancies has been invaluable. Sounds like your 35-year career with consistent documentation puts you in a great position. Thanks for adding your voice to this discussion - it helps reinforce for others that these situations are very manageable!

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Welcome to the community! Your experience really resonates with me as someone who discovered a similar issue just a few months ago. It's such a relief when you check that Social Security statement and see they already have the "right" date, isn't it? I was amazed to learn through this thread how common these birth date discrepancies are - it really puts things in perspective that what feels like a unique crisis is actually a well-documented situation that SSA deals with regularly. The fact that you have 35 years of consistent work history using the same date is exactly what the experts here have said matters most for benefit calculations. It sounds like you're in great shape for your retirement application! This community has been such a lifesaver for understanding these nuances that you just can't get from the official websites.

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As someone who's new to this community and just starting to research retirement planning, I'm absolutely amazed by how helpful and detailed this entire discussion has been! I had no idea that birth date discrepancies were such a common issue, and reading through everyone's real-world experiences has been incredibly educational. The systematic approach that keeps coming up - checking your Social Security statement online first, gathering supporting documentation, and being proactive about explaining any discrepancies - provides such a clear roadmap for anyone dealing with similar situations. What really stands out to me is how many people have successfully navigated these exact circumstances, from one-day differences to more complex documentation issues. The expertise shared by the retired SSA claims representative and HR professionals, combined with personal success stories from community members, creates such a comprehensive resource. It's reassuring to learn that SSA has established procedures for handling these historically common discrepancies and that they typically rely on consistent work history records rather than getting hung up on minor birth certificate variations. This thread is a perfect example of why communities like this are so valuable - you get practical wisdom and real-world guidance that simply isn't available through official government websites. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their experiences and help others approach retirement planning with confidence!

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Hi Keisha! Welcome to the community - I'm new here too and your question really speaks to me since my husband and I are facing the exact same decision! From everything I've read in this thread (and it's been incredibly educational), it sounds like you're in great shape to both receive your own Social Security checks based on your individual work histories. What's been most eye-opening to me from all these responses is learning about the strategic timing aspect. I had no idea that when each spouse claims could make such a huge difference in lifetime benefits! It sounds like since your husband will be 65 in December and you're turning 62 next month, you have some flexibility to stagger your claiming dates in whatever way works best for your specific financial situation. I'm definitely planning to follow the advice several people have given about creating that ssa.gov account to see the actual numbers. Sometimes seeing the real estimates makes everything click into place better than trying to understand all the rules in the abstract. One thing I'm curious about - for those of you who scheduled in-person appointments at Social Security offices, how far out are they booking appointments these days? With so many people approaching retirement age, I'm wondering if there are long wait times. Thanks for starting this discussion - it's been incredibly helpful for someone like me who's just beginning to navigate all of this!

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Hi Harper! Welcome to the community - it's great to meet another newcomer who's navigating this same situation! You're absolutely right about the strategic timing aspect being eye-opening. I had no idea before posting this question that when each spouse claims could make such a significant difference over our lifetimes. It really changes how I'm thinking about the whole decision. Regarding appointment wait times at Social Security offices, I'm curious about that too! From what I've been reading online, it seems like wait times vary quite a bit by location, but I've heard anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on your area and the time of year. I'm planning to call our local office early next week to see what their current scheduling looks like. Some people have mentioned that calling right when they open (usually 8 AM) gives you the best chance of getting through quickly. I'm so glad I started this discussion too - this community has been absolutely incredible! The level of knowledge and willingness to share real experiences has been amazing. I went from feeling completely overwhelmed to having a clear action plan. I think we're both in good hands here for working through all these retirement planning decisions. Good luck with your own planning process!

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Hi Keisha! Welcome to the community - I'm also new here and found myself in almost the exact same situation last year. Your question brought back all the confusion I felt when trying to figure out Social Security for married couples! I can absolutely confirm what everyone else has said - YES, both you and your husband can receive your own Social Security retirement checks if you've both worked enough to qualify. I was initially worried about the same thing (thinking maybe married couples could only get one benefit), but Social Security really does treat each person's work record individually. What helped me the most was understanding that the "spousal benefit" your neighbor mentioned isn't something that gets added on top of your own benefit - it's an alternative option in case 50% of your spouse's benefit would be higher than what you earned on your own. Since you both worked consistently, you'll likely each get your own earned benefits, which is usually better than the spousal option anyway. One practical tip: when you do get that ssa.gov account working (try different browsers or clear your cache like others suggested), pay special attention to your earnings record. Even though you took 8 years off for kids, as long as you worked at least 10 years total throughout your life, you should easily qualify for your own benefits. The timing advice everyone's given about having the higher earner wait longer is really smart from a financial planning perspective. Take your time with this decision - you've got great support here in this community! Good luck with your planning!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, and I can only imagine how difficult this must be for your entire family. What you're describing is actually a very common situation that the Social Security Administration handles regularly. Both your mom and your father's widow can absolutely receive survivor benefits based on his work record, and importantly, these benefits are calculated completely independently - one person's benefit doesn't reduce what's available to the other. Since your mom was married to your father for 22 years, never remarried, and is 67, she meets all the eligibility requirements for divorced spouse survivor benefits. His widow, having been married to him for 15 years at the time of his death, also clearly qualifies for widow's benefits. The SSA system is specifically designed to handle these situations because they recognize that people's lives and families can be complex. One thing that might help reduce family tensions is to explain to both women that they don't need to coordinate their applications or even be aware of each other's filing status. Each will work directly with SSA based on their own circumstances. Also, since they're different ages, their optimal claiming strategies might be different - they should each ask about the best timing for their individual situations. I'd encourage both of them to gather their documentation (marriage certificates, divorce decree, death certificate, Social Security statements) before contacting SSA, as this will make the process much smoother. The fact that you're helping both sides navigate this with such care and sensitivity speaks volumes about your character during an already difficult time.

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Thank you so much, Beatrice. Your reassurance that this is a common situation that SSA handles regularly is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been feeling like we were in some kind of unusual or problematic situation, but hearing from so many people here that this is actually routine helps put everything in perspective. Your point about them not needing to coordinate applications is really important - I think both women have been worried about stepping on each other's toes or somehow interfering with the other's claim. Knowing they can each work directly with SSA independently should relieve a lot of that anxiety. I'll definitely make sure they both have their documentation ready before making contact. The list you provided matches what others have mentioned, so I feel confident about what they'll need. I'm really grateful for your kind words about handling this sensitively - it's been challenging trying to help both sides while staying neutral, but everyone's advice here has given me the tools to approach this in a way that honors both relationships and keeps the focus on getting them the benefits my father earned for them.

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I'm so sorry for your loss. This is such a difficult time, and navigating Social Security benefits while grieving adds another layer of stress that no family should have to deal with. What you're experiencing is actually quite common, and I want to reassure you that both your mom and your father's widow are likely eligible for survivor benefits without one affecting the other. The Social Security system is designed to handle exactly these situations - it recognizes that people have complex family histories and that multiple people can have legitimate claims based on the same work record. Since both marriages lasted over 10 years and your mom never remarried before age 60, she meets the key eligibility requirements for divorced spouse survivor benefits. Your father's widow also clearly qualifies for widow's benefits. The important thing to understand is that these benefits come from different "buckets" in the system - they're calculated independently and don't reduce each other. I'd suggest encouraging both women to contact SSA sooner rather than later, as there can be protective filing date benefits. When they call, they should ask specifically about their individual benefit estimates and the optimal timing for filing, since they're different ages and may have different financial situations. Most importantly, try to help both sides understand that this isn't about who "deserves" benefits more - both women contributed to your father's life during their respective marriages, and he paid into Social Security with the expectation it would provide security for his eligible family members. This is the system working exactly as it was designed to. You're doing an amazing job helping both sides navigate this during such a painful time. This really doesn't have to become another source of family conflict - with the right information and approach, it can be resolved straightforwardly.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive explanation, Lydia. Your point about the benefits coming from different "buckets" in the system is really helpful - I hadn't heard it described that way before, but it makes perfect sense. I think that analogy will really help both my mom and his widow understand why one doesn't affect the other. The protective filing date issue is something several people have mentioned now, so I'll definitely make sure both of them ask about that right away when they contact SSA. I really appreciate your emphasis on this being the system working as designed rather than some kind of exception or problem. That perspective has been so helpful throughout this thread - it changes the whole emotional tone from something that feels like a conflict to something that feels like appropriate recognition of both relationships. You're absolutely right that my father paid into Social Security expecting it would provide security for his eligible family members, and that's exactly what's happening here. I feel much more confident now about helping both women navigate this process without it becoming a source of additional family stress during an already difficult time.

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I'm a benefits coordinator at a disability services organization and want to add one more important consideration that hasn't been fully addressed - the timing of when your daughter's SSI will actually terminate versus when her DAC benefits begin. There can sometimes be a gap between when SSI stops (due to the new SSDI income) and when the first DAC payment arrives. This gap can be 1-3 months in some cases. During this period, make sure you have a plan for covering her essential expenses, especially medical costs if there are any Medicaid coverage interruptions. Also, I want to emphasize that you should specifically request that SSA calculate and show you IN WRITING what your daughter's exact DAC benefit amount will be. Don't accept verbal estimates - ask for the written computation showing 50% of your husband's $3400 PIA. This protects you if there are any calculation errors and gives you documentation to reference if you need to appeal anything later. One final point: if your state has a Medicaid Buy-In program for working people with disabilities, your daughter might be eligible for that as an additional safety net even after the DAC transition. These programs often have higher income limits and could provide backup coverage. Worth investigating as part of your overall healthcare planning strategy. The $450/month difference you're fighting for adds up to over $5,400 per year - definitely worth being persistent about getting the correct benefit amount!

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This is such an important point about the potential gap in payments! I hadn't even thought about the timing between when SSI stops and DAC begins. That could create a real financial hardship if we're not prepared for it. I'm going to ask SSA specifically about this timeline when we file the application. The advice about getting the calculation in writing is excellent too. After all the conflicting verbal information we've received, having written documentation of the exact benefit amount ($1700/month based on 50% of the $3400 PIA) will be crucial. I'm definitely going to request that they show me the computation on paper. I'll also look into our state's Medicaid Buy-In program as a potential backup option. It's so helpful to know about these additional safety nets that exist. Between the Section 1634(c) protection that others mentioned and potentially a Buy-In program, hopefully we can avoid any gaps in her healthcare coverage. You're absolutely right that $5,400 per year is worth fighting for - that's a significant amount of money that could make a real difference in her quality of life. Thank you for adding these practical timing and documentation tips to all the other great advice in this thread!

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I'm a parent of an adult disabled child and have been following this thread with great interest. Just wanted to add my support to everything that's been said here - you are absolutely entitled to 50% of your husband's full retirement age amount ($1700/month), not the reduced amount. I also wanted to mention something that might help with the application process: when we applied for DAC benefits for our son, we found it helpful to prepare a chronological summary of his disability history with dates and key medical milestones. This made it much easier for the SSA examiner to understand his case and establish the "disabled before age 22" requirement. Include things like first diagnosis dates, when he started receiving services, major medical evaluations, etc. Another tip - if your daughter has an ABLE account or you're considering opening one, the DAC benefits won't count against the $2,000 asset limit for SSI (since she'll be on SSDI instead), but ABLE accounts can still be useful for saving money for disability-related expenses without affecting other benefits. Keep fighting for the correct benefit amount - that $450/month difference is absolutely worth pursuing! This community has given you excellent advice, and I hope your application goes smoothly once you get to work with someone at SSA who actually knows the DAC rules.

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Thank you so much for the suggestion about preparing a chronological summary! That's such a practical tip that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. Creating a timeline with key dates like first diagnosis, early intervention services, school evaluations, etc. will definitely help organize all the scattered information we have from over the years. The ABLE account information is really valuable too. We haven't opened one yet but have been considering it, so it's good to know that the asset limits work differently with SSDI versus SSI. That could give us more flexibility for saving for her future needs. I really appreciate the encouragement to keep fighting for the correct amount. This whole thread has been so empowering - going from feeling confused and uncertain after that first SSA call to now feeling informed and confident about what we're entitled to. The collective knowledge and support from this community has been incredible. We're definitely going to push for that full $1700/month and won't settle for anything less!

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