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I'm new to this community but found this discussion incredibly helpful! I'm facing a somewhat similar situation where I'm trying to understand how SSA calculates the 10-year requirement. My marriage lasted about 8 years before we separated, but due to complex financial disputes and appeals, the divorce process dragged on for nearly 3 years before being finalized - putting me at just over 11 years total. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so reassuring, especially seeing how consistent SSA's approach is across different cases. It's clear they really do only care about the legal marriage start and end dates, not the separation period or living arrangements during that time. The fact that so many people have had nearly identical timelines with lengthy divorce proceedings really shows how common this situation is. I'm particularly grateful for all the practical tips shared here - getting certified copies of documents ready early, applying up to 4 months before turning 62, and most importantly, specifically requesting consideration for ex-spouse benefits rather than assuming they'll check automatically. That last point seems crucial and could save significant delays. It's such a relief to know that what initially seemed like a complicated situation is actually very routine for SSA. Thank you to everyone who shared their real experiences - it makes all the difference to hear from people who have successfully navigated this exact process!
Welcome to the community! Your timeline sounds almost identical to what so many of us have experienced - it's really striking how common these lengthy divorce processes are when there are complex financial issues involved. The 8 years before separation plus nearly 3 years of legal proceedings putting you at 11+ years total is very similar to multiple stories shared in this thread. I'm so glad this discussion has been helpful for you too! The consistency across everyone's experiences with SSA really is remarkable - it shows that what feels overwhelming and unique to us individually is actually quite routine for them administratively. The tip about specifically requesting ex-spouse benefits consideration seems to be one of the most valuable takeaways from this entire discussion. It's amazing how a detail like that, which seems like it should be automatic, can actually make such a huge difference in processing time. Thanks for adding your perspective to the conversation!
I'm also new here but wanted to chime in with some additional reassurance! I went through this exact scenario about 18 months ago - married for 8 years and 2 months when we separated, but the divorce took another 2 years and 10 months to finalize due to business asset disputes, giving me just over 11 years total. Like everyone else has said, SSA was completely straightforward about it. They asked for my marriage certificate (showing the wedding date) and final divorce decree (showing when the divorce became legally final), calculated the time between those two dates, and confirmed I met the 10+ year requirement. That's literally all they cared about - no questions whatsoever about our separation date, living arrangements, or any of the messy details of our divorce proceedings. The agent even mentioned that they see these situations constantly because contested divorces often take years to resolve, especially when there are significant assets involved. She said SSA has to stick to clear legal dates because they can't be investigating everyone's personal circumstances during marriage breakdowns. Based on your timeline (7 years together before separating, then almost 4 more years until final divorce), you're definitely well over the 10-year mark and should have no issues at all. Just make sure to have certified copies of both documents ready when you apply, and definitely specify that you want to be considered for ex-spouse benefits - don't assume they'll automatically check that option for you!
I'm in a similar situation - planning to retire abroad in the next few years and have been researching this extensively! One thing I'd add is to make sure you understand the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO) rules if you have any foreign pensions or government benefits. Portugal has a totalization agreement with the US which can help with benefit calculations, but it's worth understanding how your Portuguese residence might affect your overall retirement income picture. Also, consider opening a Portuguese bank account before you move if possible - some expat forums mention that it's easier to do while you're still a tourist rather than after you become a resident. The bureaucracy can be quite different there! Has anyone dealt with getting their Social Security benefit verification letters translated and apostilled for Portuguese residency requirements?
Great points about the totalization agreement and WEP/GPO! I hadn't considered how Portuguese pensions might interact with my US Social Security benefits. Regarding the benefit verification letters - I haven't dealt with this personally yet, but I've read that you can request official benefit statements from the SSA online through your my Social Security account. For apostille services, you'd typically need to get documents notarized first, then send them to the Secretary of State in the state where they were notarized. Some people on expat forums recommend using a service that handles the entire apostille process for you since it can be time-consuming to do yourself. Have you found any reliable services for this, or are you planning to handle it all yourself?
I've been living in Portugal for 2 years now and receiving my Social Security without any major issues! A few things that might help with your planning: 1. **Banking**: I kept my US account with Bank of America since they have good international partnerships. Wise (formerly TransferWise) has been excellent for currency transfers with much better rates than traditional wire transfers. 2. **Portugal specifics**: You'll want to get your NIF (tax number) as soon as possible after arriving - you'll need it for almost everything. The SEF (immigration service) appointments can take months to get, so book early. 3. **Annual questionnaire**: It's really not a big deal - just confirms you're alive and still eligible. Takes 5 minutes online. 4. **Healthcare**: Portugal has excellent public healthcare that you can access as a resident. Many expats get private insurance as a supplement, but the public system is quite good. The Facebook groups "Americans & FriendsPT" and "Portugal Expats" have been incredibly helpful resources with people sharing real experiences. Portugal is very expat-friendly and the bureaucracy, while slow, is manageable. Feel free to reach out if you have specific questions about the move!
This is incredibly comprehensive - thank you so much @Amina Diallo! I'm definitely going to look into Wise for transfers and those Facebook groups you mentioned. Quick question about the NIF - can you get that before you officially become a resident, or do you need to wait until after you have your residency status sorted? Also, did you find the language barrier to be much of an issue dealing with Portuguese bureaucracy, or do most offices have English speakers? I'm trying to decide if I should invest in Portuguese lessons before I make the move!
I'm so sorry for your loss. Losing a parent is incredibly difficult, and having to navigate these bureaucratic issues while grieving makes it even harder. I went through something very similar when my dad passed away three years ago. The Social Security payment timing is so confusing - I remember being completely bewildered by the whole "paid in arrears but must live the entire month" rule. It really doesn't seem fair that someone who lived most of the month doesn't get any portion of that payment. I'm glad you were able to get through to SSA and get clear instructions on returning the payment. The fact that you were proactive about it will save you headaches down the road. When my father passed, I initially thought I'd wait for them to contact me, but that was a mistake - it took months and created more complications. One thing I learned is to ask SSA for a case number or confirmation number for every interaction, even when they're just giving you information. It helps if you need to reference the conversation later. Wishing you peace and strength as you work through settling his affairs.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and for the condolences. It really helps to hear from someone who went through the same thing. You're absolutely right about being proactive - I'm glad I called rather than waiting for them to contact me. That's a great tip about getting case numbers for every interaction too. I'll make sure to do that going forward. It's reassuring to know that others have navigated this successfully, even though it's such a confusing and emotionally difficult process. I really appreciate you taking the time to offer guidance and support.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Losing a parent is heartbreaking, and dealing with these administrative matters while grieving adds such an extra burden. I went through this exact situation when my mother passed away in 2023. The Social Security payment system is incredibly confusing - I remember being so stressed about whether we'd done something wrong by not immediately returning a payment we received after her death. Like others have mentioned, the "must live the entire month" rule seems harsh, but that's unfortunately how the system works. I'm really glad you were able to get through to SSA and get clear guidance. Being proactive about returning the payment is definitely the right approach - it saves so much hassle later. One small thing I'd add is to keep copies of any correspondence you receive from SSA about returning the payment, just for your records. The estate settlement process involves so much paperwork, and having everything documented helps. This community has been such a valuable resource for navigating these complex situations. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your experience. It really does help to know that others have been through this same confusing process. You're absolutely right about keeping copies of all the correspondence - with everything that needs to be handled during estate settlement, having good records is so important. I've already started a folder with all the SSA documentation. This community has been incredibly supportive and informative during such a difficult time. I'm grateful for everyone who took the time to share their experiences and practical advice.
Great thread with lots of useful info! I wanted to add one more tip that helped me - if you're planning to apply for benefits at 62 like the original poster, remember that you'll face a permanent reduction in your monthly benefits (around 25-30% less than your full retirement age amount). Before you apply, it's worth using the SSA calculators to see exactly how much that reduction will be in dollars. Also, if you're still working when you start collecting early benefits, be aware of the earnings limit - in 2024 it's $22,320 annually. If you earn more than that, they'll reduce your benefits temporarily until you reach full retirement age. This caught me off guard initially! The good news is those "lost" benefits get added back to your monthly amount once you hit full retirement age, but it's good to know upfront so you can plan accordingly. The document gathering advice everyone's given is spot-on though - having everything ready definitely makes the process smoother!
Thanks for bringing up the earnings limit - that's such an important detail that gets overlooked! I'm actually still planning to work part-time after I turn 62, so this is really good to know. Do you happen to know if that $22,320 limit is just for wages, or does it include other income like rental property or investment earnings? I want to make sure I understand all the implications before I make my decision about when to start benefits.
@Sophia Carson The earnings limit only applies to wages from employment and net earnings from self-employment. It doesn t'include things like investment income, rental income, pensions, or other retirement account withdrawals. So if you re'earning rental income or have dividend/interest income, that won t'count toward the $22,320 limit. Only actual work earnings count. This is definitely something to factor into your retirement planning since many people have multiple income streams!
This is such a comprehensive thread - thank you everyone for sharing your experiences! As someone who works in retirement planning, I'd like to add a few quick points that might help: 1. **Timing tip**: Consider setting up your MySocialSecurity account at least 3-4 months before you plan to apply. This gives you time to review your earnings record and fix any errors without rushing. 2. **Document organization**: Create a simple checklist and keep both physical and digital copies in a dedicated folder. I've seen too many people scramble at the last minute! 3. **State-specific considerations**: Some states don't tax Social Security benefits, while others do. If you're considering relocating in retirement, factor this into your timing and planning. 4. **Medicare enrollment**: Don't forget that you'll also need to enroll in Medicare when you turn 65, which has its own set of required documents and deadlines. It's worth researching this simultaneously since the timelines often overlap. The advice about checking your earnings record early cannot be overstated - I've helped clients who discovered significant gaps that took months to resolve. Starting early really pays off!
This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about the Medicare enrollment timing! I hadn't even thought about how those deadlines might overlap. Quick question - when you mention checking earnings records 3-4 months early, is that mainly to allow time for corrections, or are there other benefits to getting the MySocialSecurity account set up that far in advance? I'm trying to map out my timeline and want to make sure I'm not missing any other prep steps that take time to complete.
@Ravi Malhotra Great question! The 3-4 month timeframe serves multiple purposes beyond just error corrections. First, it gives you time to familiarize yourself with the SSA s'online system and interface without pressure. Second, you can run various benefit scenarios using their calculators to optimize your claiming strategy. Third, if you discover missing earnings, you ll'need time to gather old tax returns or contact former employers - this process can take 6-12 weeks. Finally, setting up early allows you to monitor for any suspicious activity on your account before you re'in application "mode. I" ve'also seen cases where people s'accounts get temporarily locked during setup due to identity verification issues, so having buffer time prevents delays in your actual application. The peace of mind alone is worth the early setup!
Javier Mendoza
I just joined this community after struggling with government websites for months, and wow - this thread is exactly what I needed to see! I've been putting off updating my contact info with SSA because I was dreading dealing with their website, but now I know I'm not crazy for expecting it to actually work properly. It's both frustrating and comforting to learn that these logout bugs have been affecting so many people for months. The detailed breakdown of solutions here is fantastic - from trying the mobile app to using services like Claimyr to skip hold times. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread for when I finally tackle my own account updates. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their experiences and follow up with what actually worked. This kind of community knowledge-sharing makes dealing with bureaucratic tech issues so much less overwhelming!
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Nia Davis
•Welcome to the community, Javier! I'm also pretty new here and had the exact same reaction when I first found this thread. It's such a relief to discover you're not alone in dealing with these frustrating SSA website issues. I was starting to think I was doing something wrong, but clearly their system has serious bugs that have been affecting people for months. What really impressed me about this community is how people don't just complain about the problems - they actually follow up with detailed solutions and real results. Carmen's success story with Claimyr was particularly encouraging, and all the specific tips about timing, password complexity, and error documentation show how much people here genuinely want to help each other succeed. I'm definitely keeping this thread saved as my go-to reference when I need to update anything with SSA. It's amazing how much time and frustration we can save by learning from others' experiences!
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Sofia Gomez
As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful to have found this thread! I've been putting off updating my email address with SSA for weeks because I kept running into the same logout error that everyone here has described. Reading through all these experiences has been so validating - I was starting to think I was doing something fundamentally wrong. The range of solutions shared here is impressive, from trying different browsers and timing strategies to using services like Claimyr to bypass the notorious hold times. It's particularly helpful to see Carmen's follow-up confirming that the agent assistance route actually worked. What strikes me most is how this community doesn't just identify problems but actively shares practical workarounds and real results. The tips about screenshotting error messages, using simpler passwords temporarily, and having backup verification methods ready are exactly the kind of detailed advice that can save hours of frustration. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to making this such a comprehensive resource for dealing with SSA's technical issues. This thread will definitely be my roadmap when I tackle my own account updates!
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Chloe Robinson
•Welcome to the community, Sofia! I'm also new here and had the exact same experience - I was convinced I was doing something wrong with the SSA website until I found this thread and realized it's a widespread technical issue. It's such a relief to know that the logout problem isn't user error but an actual bug that's been affecting people for months. I love how this community goes beyond just identifying problems to providing real, actionable solutions. The follow-up reports from people like Carmen who actually tried the suggested methods and confirmed what worked are incredibly valuable. It gives you confidence that these aren't just theoretical suggestions but proven approaches. I'm planning to try the Claimyr route myself based on all the positive feedback here - it sounds like such a time-saver compared to sitting on hold for hours. Thanks for adding your perspective, and good luck when you tackle your email update! This thread really is the perfect roadmap for dealing with SSA's frustrating technical issues.
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