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I'm currently in the exact same situation and this entire discussion has been incredibly helpful! I'm 63 and will be applying for my Social Security benefits in about 6 months. My ex-wife and I were married for 12 years, divorced 19 years ago, and I have absolutely zero contact with her - couldn't get her SSN even if I wanted to try. Reading through everyone's experiences here has completely eliminated my anxiety about this issue. It's clear that the online application makes this seem like a mandatory roadblock when it's actually just optional information for SSA's database. The consistent success stories using the early morning phone call approach (around 8 AM to minimize wait times) have convinced me that's definitely the route I'll take. What I'm taking away from this thread: 1) You absolutely do NOT need ex-spouse SSN for your own retirement benefits, 2) Phone reps can easily mark it "unknown/unavailable" without any delays, 3) Providing whatever basic info you do have (name, approximate birth date) is helpful but not required, and 4) Once your benefits start, there are typically no follow-up requests about this issue. Thank you to everyone who shared their detailed experiences - you've turned what seemed like an impossible bureaucratic hurdle into a straightforward phone conversation. Sometimes hearing from real people who've successfully navigated the system is worth more than hours of trying to interpret government websites! This community support has been amazing.
@Tyrone Johnson This thread has been absolutely amazing to follow! As someone who s'just starting to think about Social Security planning, reading through all these real-world experiences has been incredibly educational. Your four key takeaways perfectly summarize what I ve'learned from everyone s'stories - especially that this scary-looking requirement on the form is actually much more manageable than it appears. What really impresses me is how consistent everyone s'positive outcomes have been using the early morning phone call strategy. It seems like SSA representatives are well-trained to handle this exact situation since it comes up so frequently with divorced applicants. The fact that literally no one who called early in the morning had any complications or delays with their benefits really speaks to how routine this is for them to resolve. It s'also reassuring that once people got their benefits started, that was truly the end of it - no follow-up bureaucracy or additional documentation requests. Your point about community support is so true - sometimes government websites can make you feel like you re'navigating an impossible maze alone, but hearing from people who ve'actually been through the process successfully makes all the difference! Thanks for contributing to this incredibly helpful discussion. 🙏
I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been a lifesaver! I'm 64 and planning to apply for my benefits in the next couple of months. Like so many others here, I was married for over 10 years (14 years), divorced long ago (17 years now), and have absolutely no way to contact my ex-husband or get his SSN. The online application had me completely stumped when I hit that SSN field - I was starting to think I'd somehow be disqualified from getting my own retirement benefits because of missing information about someone I haven't spoken to in nearly two decades! But reading everyone's success stories here has been incredibly reassuring. I'm definitely going to follow the consensus advice and call SSA early in the morning (around 8 AM) rather than continue wrestling with the online form. It's amazing how every single person who used this approach had their application processed smoothly and benefits started on schedule. The fact that phone representatives can simply mark ex-spouse information as "unavailable" without any delays makes this seem so much more manageable. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share your detailed experiences - you've transformed what felt like an impossible bureaucratic obstacle into what sounds like a routine 30-40 minute phone call. It's incredible how much peace of mind comes from hearing real stories from people who've successfully navigated this exact situation!
@Liam Brown I m'so glad this thread has been helpful for you too! As someone who s'about to go through this same process, it s'been incredibly reassuring to see such a consistent pattern of successful outcomes. The way everyone describes the early morning phone call approach makes it sound almost foolproof at this point. What really strikes me about all these stories is how the SSA representatives seem completely unfazed by this situation - like they deal with divorced applicants who don t'have their ex-spouse s'SSN multiple times every single day. It makes sense when you think about it - after 20+ years of divorce, why would anyone still have that information readily available? Your timeline sounds perfect - having a couple months to plan gives you plenty of flexibility to choose the right morning to make that call. Based on everyone s'experiences here, it sounds like you ll'be able to get your entire application completed in one phone conversation and then just wait for your benefits to start on schedule. Good luck with the process! 🙌
This has been such an incredibly informative thread! As someone who's 65 and just started exploring rental property investment while collecting Social Security, I can't thank everyone enough for sharing their experiences and knowledge. What really strikes me is how the confusion around this topic is so common - I've been afraid to pursue rental income for months because I wasn't clear on the rules. The distinction everyone has made between "earned income" (wages, self-employment) versus "passive income" (rental, investments) for the earnings test purposes is crystal clear now. I particularly appreciate all the practical advice about: - Documenting your rental activities to show you're just doing normal landlord duties - Calling SSA to get official confirmation in writing - Understanding that while rental income won't reduce benefits, it may affect taxation - The importance of distinguishing between typical property management and providing "substantial services" Tyler, your question has clearly helped SO many people who are in similar situations! I'm definitely going to follow the advice about calling SSA and asking them to document our conversation in my file. It's reassuring to know that multiple people have successfully navigated this exact situation. Thanks to this amazing community for turning what seemed like a scary, complicated issue into something much more manageable!
This thread has been absolutely invaluable! As someone who's completely new to both Social Security and rental property considerations, I was feeling overwhelmed by all the conflicting information I'd heard from friends and family. Reading through everyone's detailed explanations and real-world experiences has given me such clarity and confidence. The way multiple people have consistently explained that rental income is "passive" rather than "earned" income really drives home why it doesn't trigger the earnings test. I especially appreciate how several members shared their actual experiences of successfully collecting both SS benefits and rental income without any issues. The practical tips about documentation and getting official SSA confirmation in writing are exactly what I needed to hear. It's clear that while this community has provided fantastic guidance, getting it officially documented with SSA is the smart way to protect yourself. Thank you Tyler for asking the question that so many of us newcomers have been wondering about, and thank you to this amazing community for sharing such detailed, helpful information. I feel much more prepared to navigate this situation now!
As someone who's been navigating Social Security and rental properties for the past few years, I want to echo what everyone else has said - you're absolutely in the clear with rental income! It's considered passive income and won't count toward the earnings test. I started collecting SS at 63 and was terrified about this exact issue when I bought my first rental property. Called SSA multiple times and they always confirmed the same thing: as long as you're just being a regular landlord (collecting rent, basic maintenance, tenant screening), it's not considered self-employment income. One thing I learned that might help - SSA looks at whether you're providing services TO tenants vs. just providing the property itself. Normal landlord stuff like fixing a leaky faucet or showing the unit? That's just property ownership. But if you were running it like a hotel with daily housekeeping and meals, that would be different. The tax implications are separate as others mentioned, but for the earnings test specifically, you're golden. Document everything and get confirmation from SSA in writing for your peace of mind. Good luck with the property purchase!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is that you should definitely apply online rather than in person if possible. I applied in person at my local SSA office and it was a nightmare - had to wait 3 hours just to be seen, then the person helping me made several data entry errors that I had to call back to fix. When I compared notes with my neighbor who applied online the same week, her process was much smoother and faster. The online system also gives you a receipt number immediately so you can track your application status. Just my experience, but I'd definitely recommend going the online route first!
That's really helpful to know! I was actually debating whether to apply online or go in person - I'm one of those people who likes to talk to someone face-to-face for important stuff like this. But hearing about your 3-hour wait and data entry errors definitely makes me lean toward the online application. Plus getting that receipt number right away for tracking sounds like a big advantage. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I'm in a similar situation - turning 67 next month and getting ready to apply! From reading all these responses, it seems like the key factors are: 1) Apply online for fastest processing, 2) Have all your documents ready (birth cert, SS card, W-2s, bank info), 3) Expect 4-6 weeks realistically, and 4) Apply early in the month if possible. The payment schedule based on birth date is something I didn't know about - that's really useful info! Thanks to everyone who shared their actual timelines. It's so much more helpful than the generic "it varies" answers you get from official sources.
This is such a great summary! I'm also approaching this decision and have been overwhelmed by all the conflicting information out there. It's really reassuring to see so many real experiences shared here. One question - has anyone had experience with how Social Security handles people who are still working part-time after filing? I'm thinking of doing some consulting work after I retire but want to make sure that won't complicate my application or delay payments.
I'm going through something very similar with my ex-wife who owes around $28k in back support. She just started getting Social Security disability benefits last year and I was able to get garnishment set up through my state's child support enforcement office. The process took about 3 months from when I first contacted them to when I received my first payment, but it was absolutely worth the wait. A few things that helped speed up my case: I had all my court documents organized and readily available, including the original support order and any modifications. I also kept detailed records of all missed payments over the years, which helped establish the total arrears amount quickly. One thing I learned that might be useful - they were able to garnish her entire disability backpay lump sum (she got about 18 months of retroactive benefits), which knocked a huge chunk off what she owed me. Make sure you ask specifically about intercepting any lump sum payments when you contact the Texas AG's office. The monthly garnishment amount ended up being about 55% of her monthly benefit since she's not supporting any other dependents. The payments come automatically now through the state disbursement system, so I don't have to deal with trying to collect from her directly anymore. After years of excuses and dodging, it's such a relief to have consistent payments finally coming in. Don't give up - you're about to finally get the resolution you've been waiting for all these years!
This is so encouraging to hear! The part about the disability backpay lump sum being garnished is huge - if he gets approved for any retroactive benefits that could make a massive dent in the $65k. I'm definitely going to ask the Texas AG's office specifically about intercepting lump sum payments when I call them tomorrow. It's also reassuring to know that 3 months is a realistic timeframe for the whole process. After dealing with this for over a decade, 3 months feels like nothing! Having 55% of his monthly benefits garnished would be life-changing - that's way more reliable income than I ever got from him when he was working and job-hopping to avoid wage garnishments. The automatic payment system through the state sounds amazing. I'm so tired of having to chase him down and getting nothing but excuses. Thank you for sharing your success story - it gives me so much hope that I'm finally going to see some real progress on this debt!
This entire thread has been incredibly informative and encouraging! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my ex owes about $52k in back support and just applied for Social Security retirement. Reading all of these success stories and detailed advice has given me the confidence to finally pursue this through my state's child support enforcement office. A couple of follow-up questions based on what I've read here: Has anyone experienced any pushback from Social Security Administration directly, or do they generally cooperate well with state child support enforcement agencies once the proper orders are submitted? Also, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the garnishment can be applied retroactively to benefits he may have already received before the order was processed? I've been hesitant to go through the state system in the past because I had bad experiences with them when my kids were younger, but it sounds like they have much better tools and direct access to SSA systems now. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - it's amazing how much practical knowledge and hope this thread has provided for those of us who have been dealing with deadbeat parents for years!
Great questions! From what I've seen, SSA generally cooperates very well with state child support enforcement agencies once they receive a properly formatted income withholding order. They have established procedures for this and it's actually one of the more routine garnishment types they handle. The key is making sure your state agency submits all the required documentation correctly. As for retroactive application - unfortunately, the garnishment typically only applies to future payments once the order is processed by SSA. You can't usually go back and garnish benefits he already received before the order was in place. However, if he's entitled to any lump sum payments (like retroactive benefits from his application date), those can potentially be intercepted depending on the timing. I'd definitely encourage you to give your state enforcement office another try, even if you had bad experiences years ago. The systems and processes have really improved, and they have much better electronic interfaces with SSA now than they did in the past. Plus, once you're dealing with Social Security benefits rather than trying to chase down employers for wage garnishments, the whole process becomes much more streamlined. You've waited long enough - it's time to finally get what your children were owed!
ThunderBolt7
I'm new to this community and just created an account because this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 62 and in a very similar situation - trying to claim divorced spouse benefits but missing my ex-husband's SSN and birthdate from a marriage that ended 15 years ago. After reading through all these detailed experiences, I feel like I finally have a clear roadmap. The consistency of success stories when people go in-person, ask specifically for a "Claims Specialist," and use the term "numident search" is really encouraging. I had no idea there were internal search capabilities that phone representatives don't have access to - that explains so much about the contradictory information I've been getting! I'm planning to gather my marriage certificate, divorce decree, and dig through old files for any documents with his name (great tip about tax returns!), then make an appointment at my local office. The former SSA employee's explanation about this being standard procedure really gave me confidence that this is absolutely doable. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and timeline - it's amazing how this community has provided more practical guidance than months of official SSA interactions. I'll definitely report back on how my appointment goes and hopefully add another success story to this helpful collection!
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Jacob Smithson
•Welcome to the community! It's great that you found this thread helpful - I'm also new here and have been amazed at how much practical advice everyone has shared. Your plan sounds solid - gathering all the documentation and using the specific "numident search" terminology that has worked for so many others here. It's really encouraging to see how consistent the success stories are when people take the in-person approach with Claims Specialists. The fact that this is apparently standard procedure (as the former SSA employee explained) but phone reps aren't trained on it is so frustrating! I'm in a similar situation and planning to make my appointment this week too. Good luck with your appointment - I hope you can add another positive outcome to this thread. This community has definitely been more helpful than any official SSA resource I've tried!
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Ian Armstrong
I'm a newcomer to this community and just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire thread has been! I'm 63 and facing almost the exact same situation - I need to apply for divorced spouse benefits but I'm missing my second ex-husband's SSN and birthdate from a marriage that ended over 15 years ago. The advice here has been absolutely invaluable, especially learning about the "numident search" process and the importance of asking specifically for a Claims Specialist at the local office rather than dealing with phone representatives who clearly aren't trained on these internal procedures. The former SSA employee's explanation about this being routine procedure really gave me confidence that this is definitely solvable. I'm planning to follow the successful approach so many of you have outlined: make an in-person appointment, bring my marriage certificate and divorce decree along with any old documents I can find with his name, and use the specific terminology about needing assistance with a numident search for divorced spouse benefit purposes. It's amazing how this community has provided more practical, actionable guidance in one thread than months of frustrating phone calls with SSA. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and timelines - it's given me the confidence to finally tackle this process! I'll definitely report back on how my appointment goes.
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