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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - my claim was also denied for "misconduct" when I was actually part of company-wide layoffs. It's so frustrating when you know the employer gave false information. I've been gathering all my documentation including the WARN notice our company filed and emails about the restructuring. One thing I learned is to also request your personnel file from HR if you haven't already - sometimes there are notes or memos in there that can help prove it was a layoff and not misconduct. The 30-day deadline to appeal is really important so don't wait. I'm still in the process but my lawyer friend told me that wrongful denial cases like ours have pretty good success rates at appeal hearings.
That's really helpful advice about requesting the personnel file! I didn't think about that but you're right - there might be internal documentation that proves it was a layoff. Did you have to pay anything to get your personnel file or did they provide it for free? Also wondering if the WARN notice carries a lot of weight in these hearings since it's an official government filing. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know others are going through the same thing and that the success rates are decent for cases like ours.
@Malik Thompson Most employers have to provide your personnel file for free within a reasonable time usually (30 days -) it s'actually required by NY labor law. The WARN notice is definitely strong evidence since it s'a federal requirement for mass layoffs and proves the company was planning workforce reductions. I d'also suggest getting statements from your coworkers who were laid off at the same time - having multiple people confirm it was part of budget cuts really strengthens your case. Document everything with dates and keep copies of all correspondence. The fact that 6 other people were let go with you should make this a pretty straightforward appeal once you get all the evidence together.
I successfully appealed a similar denial last year. The most important thing is to get a written statement from your former employer confirming the layoffs were due to budget cuts - even if they contested your claim, HR departments often provide truthful documentation when formally requested. I also recommend creating a detailed timeline of events leading up to your termination, including any meetings about company finances or restructuring that you attended. During my hearing, the administrative law judge specifically asked about whether there were performance issues or disciplinary actions prior to termination, so be prepared to explain that this was purely economic. The whole process took about 10 weeks for me but the backpay made it worth the wait. Don't let the initial denial discourage you - the appeals process is much more thorough than the initial review.
This is really encouraging to hear! I'm definitely going to request that written statement from HR - that's a great tip. Quick question though - when you say you created a timeline, did you include specific dates of company meetings or just general timeframes? I attended a few all-hands meetings where our CEO mentioned budget constraints but I'm not sure if I have the exact dates saved anywhere. Also, did you submit all your evidence before the hearing or present it during the phone call? I want to make sure I'm as prepared as possible since this denial has really thrown me for a loop. Thanks for sharing your success story - it gives me hope that this will work out!
@Melina Haruko I m'in a really similar situation and your advice about getting written confirmation from HR is spot on! I actually just submitted my appeal yesterday after being denied for misconduct "when" it was clearly a layoff situation. One thing I m'curious about - did you have to deal with your former employer s'lawyer or HR representative participating in the hearing to contest your appeal? I m'worried they might show up and try to argue their misconduct claim even though I have all this evidence of the layoffs. Also wondering if you had any issues with the timing - like did you file your appeal right away or wait closer to the 30-day deadline? I filed mine pretty quickly but now I m'second-guessing if I should have gathered more evidence first. Really appreciate you sharing the details of your experience!
YES! I used that Claimyr service and finally got through yesterday! The agent said it was definitely a system error - I had no break in my claim. She fixed it on the spot and said I should receive all my back payments within 3 business days. Such a relief!
Wow, I'm so glad to see this thread because I'm dealing with the exact same nightmare right now! My claim has been stuck for 3 weeks with a "break in claim" error even though I've certified every single week without fail. The phone system is absolutely brutal - I've called hundreds of times and either get a busy signal or get disconnected after waiting on hold for hours. It's incredibly frustrating when you're depending on these benefits to survive. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it sounds like this is a widespread glitch with their new system. I'm definitely going to try that Claimyr service that several people mentioned - at this point I'm willing to try anything to get through to an actual human being who can fix this mess!
Welcome to the club unfortunately! I just went through this exact same nightmare and can tell you that Claimyr really does work - I was skeptical at first but it got me through to an agent in less than a day after weeks of failed attempts on my own. The agent confirmed it's a widespread glitch affecting tons of people with the partial unemployment rollout. Once they fix it, you should get all your back payments. Hang in there, you're not alone in this mess!
Just wanted to say I feel for you! Getting fired is never easy even when it's not your fault. The good news is unemployment benefits exist exactly for situations like this. Don't let anyone make you feel bad for filing - you paid into this system through your paychecks.
I went through something similar when I was let go for "performance issues" from my customer service job. The key thing is to file immediately - don't wait because there's a waiting period anyway. When you fill out the application, be completely honest about the circumstances. The fact that you received a warning and were actively trying to improve actually works in your favor because it shows this was performance-related, not misconduct. NYS Department of Labor distinguishes between being unable to do the job (eligible for benefits) versus unwillingness or deliberate misconduct (disqualifying). Keep records of everything - your warning notice, any emails about performance, etc. The adjudication process can take a few weeks but stay patient and respond promptly to any requests for information.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - when you say "keep records of everything," what specific documents should I be gathering? I have the written warning they gave me but I'm not sure what else might be important for the adjudication process. Also, how long did your case take to resolve?
I just want to add that if you do end up filing, don't be discouraged if the online system seems overwhelming at first. I had to file after being at my job for only 8 weeks and was really stressed about navigating the NYS DOL website. What helped me was gathering all my employment documents beforehand - pay stubs from both your current and previous jobs, your Social Security card, and any documentation about the hour cuts. Also, if you're worried about the reduced hours situation, you might want to document when the cuts started and any communication from your employer about it. The system can be frustrating but your work history from your previous 2-year job should definitely help you qualify if you need to file.
That's really good advice about gathering all the documentation beforehand. I'm dealing with a similar situation where my hours got cut unexpectedly, and I wish I had started keeping better records from day one. It's also worth mentioning that if anyone has trouble getting through to NYS DOL by phone (which seems to be a common issue based on what I'm reading here), you can also try calling early in the morning or later in the day when call volumes might be lower. The peace of mind knowing that your previous work history counts toward eligibility really does help reduce the stress of these uncertain situations.
I was in almost the exact same situation as you last year - started a new job and within 2 months my employer started cutting hours dramatically before eventually letting me go. The good news is that NYS unemployment eligibility is based on your work history over the entire "base period" (usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters), not just your current job. Your 2 years at your previous job should definitely help you meet the monetary requirements. When I filed, I had to provide wage information from all my employers during that period. If your hours do get cut significantly, you may even qualify for partial unemployment while still employed. I'd recommend starting to document the hour reductions now - dates, original vs. reduced schedules, any written communication from your employer about the cuts. This documentation was really helpful when I filed my claim. The NYS DOL system can be frustrating to navigate, but don't let that discourage you from applying if you need to.
This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! It's good to know that documenting everything from the start is so important. I've already started keeping track of when my hours were reduced and any emails from my supervisor about schedule changes. Your point about partial unemployment is something I hadn't really considered - that could actually be a lifeline if they keep cutting my hours instead of just letting me go outright. Thanks for sharing your experience, it really helps to know I'm not alone in dealing with this kind of workplace uncertainty.
Connor Richards
I'm a benefits advocate and this is one of the most frustrating errors I see with NYS DOL - their system frequently miscodes "lack of work" layoffs as disqualifications when they should be automatic approvals. This is almost certainly either a data entry error or your employer reported the wrong separation reason. Here's what you need to do immediately: 1) Call your former employer's HR/payroll department to verify what separation code they submitted to NYS DOL - ask specifically if they reported it as "layoff due to lack of work" or something else, 2) If they reported it wrong, have them contact NYS DOL to correct it (this is usually the fastest fix), 3) If that doesn't work, file Form IA 007.2 for an appeal within 30 days - include your written layoff notice as evidence. Continue certifying weekly during this process since you'll get backpay once it's resolved. This type of obvious error gets overturned regularly, so don't let their broken system discourage you from claiming benefits you've earned and deserve.
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Lucas Lindsey
•@Connor Richards This is exactly what I needed to hear from someone with professional experience! Your step-by-step breakdown makes this so much clearer than the confusing determination letter I received. I feel much more confident now knowing that this is a recognized pattern of errors and not something unusual. I m'definitely going to start with calling my employer s'HR on Monday to check what separation code they used - it sounds like that could potentially save weeks of waiting if they can just correct it directly with NYS DOL. If that doesn t'work, I ll'move forward with the Form IA 007.2 appeal. Thank you for confirming that I should keep certifying weekly during this process - I was worried about whether to continue or wait. It s'really reassuring to know that benefits advocates see this error regularly and that it typically gets overturned. Gives me hope that this bureaucratic nightmare will actually get resolved!
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Emma Morales
I'm new to the unemployment system and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea that "lack of work" denials were such a common error with NYS DOL. Reading everyone's experiences makes me realize how broken their initial determination process really is. It's honestly shocking that so many people are getting denied for what should be the most straightforward qualifying reason for unemployment benefits. For anyone else dealing with this - it sounds like the consensus is to call your former employer's HR first to check what separation reason they actually reported, then file Form IA 007.2 if that doesn't resolve it. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories and practical advice - this kind of community support is invaluable when dealing with such a frustrating bureaucratic system!
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Honorah King
•@Emma Morales I m'also completely new to this whole unemployment process and honestly had no idea how common these types of errors were until reading through this thread! It s'really eye-opening to see how many people have dealt with this exact same lack "of work denial" issue. What strikes me most is how the system seems designed to automatically deny first and then make people fight for benefits they re'clearly entitled to. It s'such a relief to see the community sharing practical steps and success stories though - makes this whole bureaucratic nightmare feel much more manageable. I m'bookmarking this thread because the advice about calling HR first before filing appeals could save so much time and stress for anyone dealing with similar issues. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their experiences!
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