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Has anyone else noticed that tax software seems to be getting buggier every year? I used to never have these problems, but the last 3 years I've had weird glitches with multiple platforms. Is it just me???
Not just you. I think they keep adding "features" every year without properly testing them. I've gone back to using a simple paid preparer because I was tired of dealing with software issues. Sometimes old school is better!
I've definitely noticed this too! I think part of the problem is that they're trying to compete with each other by adding more automated features like document importing, but they're not giving enough time to properly test these systems before tax season hits. When millions of people are all trying to file at once, even small bugs become major headaches. That's probably exactly what happened with the H&R Block import issue that started this whole thread.
I went through something very similar last year! You're absolutely right that you can switch to any other tax software since H&R Block never actually transmitted your return to the IRS. I ended up using FreeTaxUSA after my initial software had issues, and it worked perfectly. One tip that saved me a lot of headache - before you start with the new software, gather all your original tax documents (W-2s, 1099s, etc.) and enter everything manually instead of using any import features. Yes, it takes a bit longer, but after dealing with one import glitch, I didn't want to risk another one. Plus, manually entering gives you a chance to double-check all your numbers. The IRS won't have any record of your attempted filing with H&R Block, so you're completely in the clear to file fresh with whoever you choose. Good luck!
Thanks for the advice about manual entry! I'm definitely leaning toward doing that now after all these software horror stories. Better to spend an extra 30 minutes entering everything by hand than deal with another rejection. Did you find FreeTaxUSA's interface pretty straightforward for manual entry? I've never used them before but I'm considering them as an option since everyone seems to mention TurboTax and I want to try something different.
Has anyone used TurboTax for this situation? I'm in a similar spot with increasing income and decreasing refunds and wondering if the software can help me understand what's happening.
I use TurboTax every year and they do have a W-4 calculator tool that can help you figure out the right withholding. It's not as detailed as some dedicated withholding calculators, but it gets the job done. After you finish your return, it usually asks if you want to adjust your withholding for next year based on this year's results.
I've been through this exact same situation and it can be really frustrating! What you're experiencing is completely normal tax behavior, but I know it doesn't feel that way when you're used to getting larger refunds. Here's the key thing to understand: your refund isn't actually "shrinking" - what's happening is that you're getting your money throughout the year in your paychecks instead of as one lump sum refund. When you claim your children on your W4, you're essentially telling your employer "I have dependents, so withhold less tax from each paycheck because my final tax liability will be lower." The periods where they stopped withholding federal taxes entirely likely happened because your W4 indicated you'd have little to no tax liability based on your dependents and income at that time. But as your annual income grew, you ended up owing more than initially calculated. Here's what I'd recommend: use the IRS withholding calculator on their website (it's free!) to figure out exactly how much should be withheld based on your current income and family situation. You can then adjust your W4 accordingly - whether you want smaller paychecks with a bigger refund, or keep things as they are with more money in each paycheck. Remember, ideally you want to break even or get a small refund - that means you kept your money working for you all year instead of giving the government an interest-free loan!
Quick tip from someone who got audited: the IRS specifically flagged my high meal expenses compared to my business revenue. Now I follow the 5 W's rule - document Who, What, Where, When, and Why on every receipt. I snap a pic with my phone and use the notes feature to add this info right away.
What app do you use for tracking this stuff? Been using just the regular notes app but wondering if there's something better.
I've been dealing with this exact same confusion as a freelance graphic designer! One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet template for meal tracking. I include columns for date, amount, location, who I was with, business purpose, and a photo of the receipt. My accountant told me the biggest mistake people make is not being specific enough about the business purpose. Instead of writing "client meeting," I write "discussed Q1 marketing campaign with ABC Company - reviewed design concepts and timeline." The IRS wants to see that actual business was conducted, not just that you happened to eat with someone. Also learned the hard way that coffee meetings count too if you're discussing business! I was missing out on deducting all those Starbucks meetings with potential clients. Just make sure you're consistent with your documentation from day one.
This spreadsheet approach sounds really smart! I'm just starting out with my own small business and have been throwing receipts in a shoebox like an amateur. Do you have a template you'd be willing to share? Also, how do you handle situations where you're grabbing coffee with someone but the business discussion is pretty informal - like when you're just getting to know a potential client? I'm never sure if those count or if there has to be a specific project being discussed.
I went through something similar when I had to backfile my 2019 taxes last year. One thing that really helped me was checking with my bank statements from 2018 - if you had direct deposit, you can often figure out your net pay amounts and work backwards. What I did was look at my December 2018 bank deposits and compare them to my gross wages on the IRS transcript. The difference between gross and net pay includes all withholdings - federal taxes, state taxes, FICA, and any other deductions like health insurance or 401k contributions. If you can find your final paystub from 2018 or even your January 2019 paystub (which often shows year-end totals), that would be ideal. But the bank statement method can at least give you a reality check on whether any estimates you get seem reasonable. Also, don't forget that your state might have had different withholding rules in 2018 compared to now - some states changed their tax laws after the federal tax reform that year. So if you do use estimation methods, make sure you're using 2018 tax tables and rates, not current ones.
That's a brilliant approach using bank statements to work backwards! I never thought about using the direct deposit amounts to figure out the withholdings. I definitely have my bank statements from 2018 saved digitally, so I can try that method. Your point about using 2018 tax tables instead of current ones is really important too - I would have definitely made that mistake and used today's rates. Do you know if the IRS or state tax websites keep archived tax tables from previous years? I want to make sure I'm getting the right withholding percentages for that tax year. The paystub idea is great too. I'm pretty sure my January 2019 paystub would have shown the year-end totals for 2018. I need to dig through my old files this weekend and see what I can find. Thanks for all these practical suggestions!
I actually work in payroll and can share some insights that might help! One thing that often trips people up is that state withholding amounts can vary significantly based on when during the year you started or stopped working with an employer, even if your annual income was similar to other years. If you do end up having to estimate your state withholding, here's a more precise method: Look at your federal transcript to see exactly when your W-2 wages were earned throughout 2018 (the IRS transcript sometimes shows quarterly breakdowns). Then use your state's 2018 withholding tables with your actual filing status and allowances from that year. Also, many people don't realize that if you moved between states during 2018 or worked for multiple employers in different states, you might have state withholding from more than one state. Your IRS transcript won't show this breakdown, but it's something to consider when doing your calculations. One more tip - if you end up contacting your former employer and they're still in business, ask specifically for your "annual wage and tax statement" rather than just asking for your W-2. Sometimes HR departments have different filing systems, and using the official terminology can help them locate your records more quickly.
Carmen Ruiz
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm dealing with the same situation with my 15-year-old who's been helping with my online retail business - mostly product photography, inventory management, and packing orders. Based on everything I've read here, I'm definitely going to treat her as an employee rather than issuing a 1099. The tax advantages are compelling, especially the FICA exemption under 18 and the potential for her first $12,950 to be tax-free. One question I haven't seen addressed yet - how do you handle paying your child if your business income varies significantly month to month? Should I aim for consistent monthly payments regardless of business performance, or is it okay to pay them more during busy months when they work more hours? I want to make sure the payment structure looks legitimate to the IRS while also being practical for our seasonal business fluctuations. Also, has anyone dealt with setting up direct deposit for their teenager, or do most people just write checks from the business account? Thanks for all the great insights everyone has shared!
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Oliver Fischer
ā¢Great questions! Variable pay based on hours worked and business needs is actually more legitimate-looking than fixed payments, so you're on the right track. The IRS expects reasonable fluctuations that match actual work performed. During busy seasons when she works more hours, higher pay makes perfect sense. Just document the extra hours clearly in your timesheets. For payment methods, both checks and direct deposit work fine. Many parents find business checks easier for record-keeping since you get automatic documentation. If you go with direct deposit, just make sure to keep records showing the transfers came from your business account. Some banks make it tricky to set up direct deposit for minors, so checks might be simpler initially. The key is consistency in your documentation rather than consistency in payment amounts. As long as you're tracking actual hours worked and paying a reasonable hourly rate, seasonal fluctuations actually strengthen your case that this is legitimate employment tied to real business needs rather than disguised allowances.
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Isabel Vega
This has been such an educational thread! I'm in the exact same situation with my 17-year-old who's been helping with administrative tasks for my consulting business. Reading through everyone's experiences has really clarified the employee vs. contractor decision for me. What I found most valuable is learning about all the tax exemptions - the FICA exemption under 18 and FUTA exemption under 21 are huge savings I had no idea about. And the college financial aid considerations mentioned by @Yara Nassar are brilliant - I never thought about how student work income gets assessed differently than parent income on the FAFSA. One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen mentioned - do any of you report this employment arrangement differently on your state taxes, or does it generally follow the same rules as federal? I'm in California and want to make sure I'm not missing any state-specific requirements for family employment. The documentation tips about timesheets and taking occasional photos of them working are really practical advice I'm definitely going to implement. Thanks everyone for sharing your real-world experiences with this!
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Carmen Flores
ā¢Great question about state taxes! In California, you'll generally follow the same rules as federal - treating your child as an employee rather than contractor, same FICA exemptions under 18, etc. However, California does have some additional requirements to be aware of. You'll need to register for state payroll taxes if you haven't already, and while federal FICA is exempt for minors, you may still need to pay California State Disability Insurance (SDI) depending on total wages. I'd definitely recommend checking with the California EDD website or using one of those services mentioned earlier to get state-specific guidance. The documentation requirements @Natasha Petrov mentioned about detailed timesheets and photos are even more important when you re'dealing with both federal and state compliance. California can be pretty strict about employment records, so having everything well-documented from the start will save you headaches later!
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