I just completed this process a few weeks ago as a first-time trustee for my uncle's irrevocable trust, so your confusion is totally understandable! The SS-4 form definitely doesn't make it clear what information trustees need to provide. The biggest thing that helped me was realizing that I needed to fill out the form from TWO perspectives simultaneously: **For the trust entity (Lines 1-6):** - Use the exact legal name from the trust document - don't shorten or paraphrase it - The trust's "business address" can be your home address as trustee (totally normal) - Include the date the trust was legally created (signed), not when it was funded **For yourself as responsible party (Line 7b):** - Your full name and SSN go here since you control the trust assets - This is NOT your aunt and uncle's information, even though they're the grantors **Additional tips:** - Line 9a: Check "Trust" - Line 10: Select "Started new business" since irrevocable trusts are separate tax entities - The online application at irs.gov is much faster than mail - you get the EIN immediately One thing I wish someone had told me: start gathering bank documentation requirements NOW. Most banks need specific trust document excerpts, your trustee identification, and sometimes a "Certificate of Trust" summary. Calling your intended bank to get their complete checklist can save you multiple trips later. The learning curve is steep at first, but once you get the EIN sorted out, the rest of the trust administration becomes much more manageable. You've got this!

I went through this exact situation about 18 months ago when my parents established their irrevocable trust and named me as trustee. The SS-4 form was definitely confusing at first, but once I understood the key concepts, it became much clearer. Here's what I learned that might help you: **Critical Understanding:** You're filling out the form as TWO entities - the trust itself AND you as the person responsible for it. This dual role is what makes the form confusing initially. **Specific guidance for key lines:** - Line 1: Exact legal name from your trust document (don't abbreviate anything) - Lines 2-6: Trust's information (you can use your address as trustee) - Line 7b: YOUR name and SSN as the "responsible party" - this is crucial - Line 9a: Check "Trust" - Line 10: "Started new business" (since irrevocable trusts are separate tax entities) **Important timing note:** Make sure the trust is actually irrevocable before applying. Some trust documents have waiting periods or other conditions that must be met first. I highly recommend using the online application at irs.gov instead of mailing the paper form. It's much faster (you get the EIN immediately) and the system guides you through trust-specific questions once you select "Trust" as the entity type. One thing I wish I'd known earlier: start preparing for bank account opening now. Most banks require specific documentation beyond just the EIN - portions of the trust document, your ID as trustee, and often a "Certificate of Trust." Call your intended bank ahead of time to get their complete requirements list. The first time doing this is always overwhelming, but you're asking the right questions. Once you get the EIN, the rest of the trust administration process becomes much more straightforward!

Anyone know if Form 8396 applies when you do a cash-out refinance? I did one last year and now my tax software is asking me about it too. I'm pretty sure I never got any kind of certificate but now I'm wondering if I should have asked for one?

I went through the exact same confusion last year after refinancing! The software suddenly asking about Form 8396 really threw me off too. Like others have mentioned, this form is specifically for people who have a Mortgage Credit Certificate (MCC) from a state or local housing program. Since you mentioned you've been filing for 4-5 years without seeing this question, it's almost certainly because the tax software is responding to you entering information about your refinance. The software is just being thorough and checking if your refinance might have affected an existing MCC. If you never received any paperwork specifically called a "Mortgage Credit Certificate" when you originally bought your home, you can confidently answer "no" to this question. These certificates are pretty uncommon and are usually only available through specific state housing finance agency programs for qualifying first-time buyers or buyers in certain areas. Don't worry - you didn't mess up anything in previous years or in your current tax prep. This is just the software doing its job by asking about potential credits that could be affected by major mortgage events like refinancing.

I went through this exact same situation last quarter and completely understand the anxiety! Three weeks is definitely longer than usual, but not necessarily cause for panic yet. A few things that helped me when I was in your shoes: First, check your bank account online to see if there are any pending transactions - sometimes the IRS processes the check but it doesn't show as cleared for a day or two. Second, if you have online banking, you can usually see images of cleared checks, which will show you exactly when it was processed. The 4-5 week timeframe that others mentioned is spot on for this time of year. April is absolutely their busiest month with both regular returns and Q1 estimated payments flooding in simultaneously. I've seen people wait 6+ weeks during peak season and still have everything work out fine. One thing that gave me peace of mind was calling my bank to put a note on the check in case it got lost - they can flag it to contact you before paying it if it shows up months later. Most banks will do this for free. If you do end up needing to contact the IRS and the wait times are brutal, just remember that as long as your payment was postmarked by April 15th, you're protected from penalties even if they don't process it until much later. Keep that postmark documentation handy!

I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - sent my Q1 estimated payment on April 12th and it's been almost a month with no sign of the check clearing. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly reassuring! I think I'm going to try the EFTPS route for my June payment since so many people recommend it. The idea of never having to worry about mail delays again sounds amazing. For anyone else in this boat, one thing I learned from my accountant is that you can also make estimated payments through your tax software if you e-file. Most of the major programs (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.) allow you to schedule quarterly payments when you file your return. It's another electronic option that might be easier than setting up EFTPS for some people. The key thing seems to be keeping that postmark documentation. I sent mine certified mail specifically because of issues like this, and having that receipt showing the April 12th date gives me confidence that I won't face penalties even if the IRS takes their sweet time processing it. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's nice to know this level of delay isn't unusual during tax season!

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm going through almost the exact same situation right now - took an IRA distribution for a home purchase that fell through and managed to get the money back in within the 60-day window. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is to double-check that your financial institution coded the redeposit correctly as a rollover contribution on the 5498. Mine initially coded it as a regular contribution, which would have created contribution limit issues. I had to call them to get it corrected to show as a "rollover contribution" instead of a "regular contribution." Also, for anyone using TaxAct, the process is similar - when you enter the 1099-R, there's a section that asks "Did you roll over any of this distribution?" Make sure to answer yes and enter the full amount. The software will then show $0 taxable income from the distribution. Thanks especially to @KylieRose and @Klaus Schmidt for the detailed explanations about how this all works. It's reassuring to know that as long as you properly report both the distribution and the rollover, you won't owe taxes on money you returned!

One additional tip that might help others in this situation - if you're still within the 60-day window and haven't redeposited yet, consider doing a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer instead of a personal rollover if possible. What I mean is, if you still have the distributed funds and can work with your IRA custodian, sometimes they can facilitate putting the money back as a direct transfer rather than you personally depositing it. This can sometimes avoid confusion with the 1099-R/5498 reporting altogether. Obviously this doesn't help @Aaliyah Jackson since she already completed her rollover (and did it correctly!), but for anyone else reading this thread who finds themselves in a similar situation, it's worth asking your financial institution about this option. Some custodians are more flexible about this than others. That said, the personal rollover route that Aaliyah took is perfectly valid and very common. The key is just making sure to properly report it as everyone has explained - report the 1099-R but indicate it was rolled over so it doesn't get taxed.

Great question about farm building tax write-offs! Since you're replacing an old structure with a new one dedicated 100% to business use, you're in a good position tax-wise. For the demolition costs, these typically get added to your land basis rather than being immediately deductible. However, the construction costs for your new butchering facility can be depreciated over 20 years as farm property, or you might qualify for bonus depreciation (80% in 2025) or Section 179 expensing for immediate deduction. One thing to watch out for - if you've been depreciating the old barn, you'll likely face depreciation recapture when you demolish it. This means you'll owe taxes on the depreciation you previously claimed. Plan for this so it doesn't surprise you at tax time. Make sure to separate different components of your project. Specialized butchering equipment, processing tables, and refrigeration systems might qualify as 7-year property with faster depreciation than the building structure itself. Also check if your state offers agricultural exemptions on construction materials - could save you significant sales tax. Keep detailed records of everything and consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in agricultural operations before you start construction.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential for cost segregation studies on your new butchering facility. Since this is a specialized agricultural building with specific equipment and systems for poultry processing, a cost segregation analysis could identify components that qualify for accelerated depreciation. For example, your electrical systems for refrigeration, specialized lighting, ventilation systems, and processing equipment might be classified as 5-7 year property instead of the standard 20-year building depreciation. This could significantly increase your immediate tax deductions, especially combined with bonus depreciation. The cost segregation study typically costs a few thousand dollars but can often save tens of thousands in taxes by properly classifying building components. Given that you're doing a complete rebuild specifically for business use, this might be worth exploring with a tax professional who specializes in agricultural operations. Also, don't forget to document the business necessity for the demolition and rebuild. Photos of the old barn's condition and records showing why renovation wasn't feasible can help support your tax positions if the IRS ever questions the timing or necessity of the project.