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Keisha Taylor

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The best approach is to look at the K-1 instructions from the partnership itself. Usually there's a supplemental page that explains what makes up code W. In my experience, extraordinary losses are often from casualty events or worthless securities, and the tax treatment varies accordingly.

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You're right, there were additional pages with the K-1. Looking back at them, it says it's related to "business property partially destroyed in a natural disaster" but it doesn't give specific filing instructions. Would this change where I enter it?

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Keisha Taylor

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That changes everything! A loss from business property damaged in a natural disaster is definitely a casualty loss from a federally declared disaster area, which gets special treatment. This should be reported on Form 4684 (Casualties and Thefts), Section B since it's business property. The good news is that these losses aren't subject to the usual personal casualty loss limitations and can be deducted even if you take the standard deduction. After completing Form 4684, the business casualty loss will then flow to your Schedule A, but in a different section than regular itemized deductions, potentially allowing you to claim both the standard deduction and this special loss.

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Paolo Longo

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Does the loss relate to rental property by any chance? If so, it might go on Schedule E instead. I've seen K-1 code W losses for rental property damage go there rather than Schedule A.

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Amina Bah

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This is correct. If it's from rental property, it would go on Schedule E. Schedule K-1 codes can be really confusing because the same code might be reported differently depending on the nature of the underlying asset or activity. My accountant spent hours sorting through similar issues with my K-1s last year.

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TurboTax does this for a lot of forms - it's super annoying. I had the same issue with Schedule B even though I had minimal interest. What worked for me was just putting $0 in the required fields and moving on. As long as the amount is accurate (even if it's zero), you're good. Form 8938 is specifically for foreign financial assets, and the IRS wants to know about those accounts even if they didn't generate income. So listing the accounts with $0 interest is actually the right approach.

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But doesn't entering all those zeros trigger some kind of flag with the IRS? I've heard that too many zeros can lead to an audit.

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That's actually a common misconception. Entering legitimate zeros for amounts that genuinely are zero won't trigger an audit. The IRS is looking for inconsistencies and unreported income, not properly reported zeros. What can raise flags is if you have foreign accounts on an FBAR but don't report them on Form 8938 when required, or vice versa. Consistency across your filings is more important than avoiding zeros.

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Nia Williams

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Has anyone actually read the Form 8938 instructions? It clearly states on page 2 that you only need to report the value of specified foreign financial assets and any income or gains. If there's no income, you still report the asset but can leave the income part blank or put zero. TurboTax is programmed to be super thorough to avoid errors, but sometimes it goes overboard and asks for info that isn't strictly necessary.

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Luca Ricci

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Thanks for pointing to the actual instructions - I just checked and you're right. On page 2 it says "report the value of specified foreign financial assets and any income, gain, loss, deduction, or credit..." So reporting the asset with zero income is correct.

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Make sure to request an Account Transcript from the IRS for the year they claim you have a debt. You can get this online at IRS.gov/transcripts. This will show any assessments, penalties, or adjustments they've made. Also, if this debt is from many years ago, there's a chance it could be outside the collection statute of limitations (usually 10 years). If that's the case, you might be able to get your refund back.

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How exactly do I read these transcripts? I just downloaded mine and it's full of codes and dates that make absolutely no sense to me. How do I find what year the debt is from?

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Tax transcripts can definitely be confusing! Look for transaction codes (TC) like "420" which means an audit adjustment, "300" series codes which are related to additional assessments, or "480" which indicates an adjustment due to examination. The date listed next to these codes shows when the adjustment was made. The cycle date (usually formatted like 20231405) tells you the processing year and week. You'll also want to look for any codes in the "500" series which indicate that collection activity has occurred.

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Wesley Hallow

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This happened to me last year! Check if the debt might be something completely unrelated to taxes. The Treasury Offset Program doesn't just collect for IRS - they also collect for student loans, child support, state taxes, etc. In my case, they took my federal refund for an unpaid state tax bill I didn't know about (moved states and mail forwarding expired). Might be worth checking with your state tax agency too.

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Justin Chang

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Yep, happened to me too but with student loans. The worst part was that I thought I was current on payments, but apparently one payment hadn't processed correctly months earlier, which snowballed into a "delinquent" status. Always check your credit report too - sometimes these things show up there before you get official notices.

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Zara Rashid

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I've been through this exact situation with my college student! From my experience, the key factor is which parent the college student returns to during breaks. If he spends more time at your ex's house during summer and holidays, the IRS would likely still consider your ex the custodial parent. Since you're paying 100% of the educational expenses, the fairest solution would be to ask your ex to sign Form 8332. But if he refuses, you might want to look into the American Opportunity Tax Credit instead - sometimes the parent who pays the expenses can claim the education credits even if they can't claim the dependent.

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GalacticGuru

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That's really helpful info about the education credits! Would claiming the American Opportunity Tax Credit require any cooperation from my ex-husband, or could I do that independently since I'm paying all the college costs?

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Zara Rashid

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You can claim the American Opportunity Tax Credit independently since you're paying the education expenses, even if you can't claim your son as a dependent. You'll need to use Form 8863 to claim the credit. The credit can be worth up to $2,500 per eligible student, which might actually be more valuable than the dependent exemption itself. You'll need to have the 1098-T form from the college showing tuition paid, and keep records of your payments for other qualified expenses like books and required supplies.

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Luca Romano

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Watch out for FAFSA implications! If you're trying to get dependency for FAFSA purposes, the FAFSA rules are completely different from IRS rules. For FAFSA, if you're the noncustodial parent, your income generally isn't considered for financial aid calculations regardless of who claims the student on taxes. But this is changing with the new simplified FAFSA for 2025-2026. They're now asking which parent provides more financial support rather than which parent the student lives with.

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Nia Jackson

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This is correct about the FAFSA changes. I work in college financial aid, and the new FAFSA is focusing on the "provider of more financial support" rather than the residency test. Since you're paying 100% of education costs, you'd likely be considered the supporting parent under the new rules.

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Just wanted to add - if your employer gave you a W-2 form, it means they reported your earnings to the IRS already. If you had ANY federal income tax withheld (check box 2 on the W-2), you should definitely file to get that money back! Even if it's just a few dollars, it's YOUR money!

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Jamal Carter

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Thanks for this info! I just checked my paystub and they did take out a small amount for federal taxes. So even though I made under $600, I should still file to get that money back? I didn't get a W-2 form yet though.

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Yes, you should definitely file to get back any federal tax that was withheld! No matter how small the amount, that's your money being held by the government. Your employer is required to provide your W-2 by January 31st, so you should receive it soon if you haven't already. If you don't get it by early February, reach out to your employer. You'll need that form to file your return and claim your refund.

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Everyone's giving great tax advice, but I just want to say - good for you for getting a job and thinking about this stuff early! I wish I had been this responsible as a teenager. The habits you're building now (like asking questions when you don't understand something) will serve you well throughout life. πŸ‘

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Ava Johnson

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Exactly what I was thinking! Plus learning about taxes now when the situation is simple will make it easier when things get more complicated later. Took me until my 30s to really understand this stuff lol

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