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I'm a tax preparer (not a CPA, but I do this professionally) and see this issue a lot. The discrepancy is almost certainly about different starting points for state vs federal income. Most states start with your federal AGI and then make adjustments, but some states have their own definition of income that might be closer to your Social Security wages (boxes 3/5) than your federal wages (box 1). Without knowing your state, I can't tell you which software is correct, but I'd recommend: 1. Look at the actual forms each software is generating, not just the final numbers 2. Check your state's tax department website for info on how they define taxable income 3. If you contributed to retirement accounts, that's often where the difference shows up Don't just pick the one with the better outcome - the IRS and state tax authorities share data, so discrepancies will eventually be flagged.
Thank you for this detailed explanation! I checked both forms like you suggested and found that H&R Block was adding back in my 401k contributions for state purposes while TaxSlayer wasn't. After checking my state's website, turns out H&R Block is doing it correctly - my state doesn't allow 401k deductions the same way federal does. Makes sense now why the numbers were different. Really appreciate your help!
You're welcome! I'm glad you were able to track down the difference. The 401k contribution adjustment is one of the most common causes of this exact discrepancy. Different states handle retirement contributions very differently - some follow federal rules, while others tax them differently. Now that you know, you can also check if there are any state-specific credits or deductions you might qualify for that neither software automatically found. Many states have unique credits that people miss because tax software doesn't always prompt for them.
Why are taxes so complicated?? It makes no sense that two supposedly professional tax software programs give totally different results. How is the average person supposed to know which one is right?? š” Seriously considering just paying an accountant next year even though I've always done my own taxes. This is giving me a headache.
I switched to using an accountant three years ago and it was the best decision ever. Yes, it costs more than tax software, but my accountant has saved me way more than her fee each year by finding deductions and credits I didn't know about. Plus she handles any weird situations like this so I don't have to stress about it.
We just implemented a hybrid approach at our company that seems to be working well. Rather than counting lines of code (which is problematic for all the reasons you mentioned), we: 1. Had each development team estimate the percentage of maintenance vs. new development for their area 2. Set up time tracking codes that developers use when logging hours 3. Created a review process where tech leads and finance meet quarterly to review the classifications 4. Document everything with written justifications for how we classified each major component Our CPA seemed satisfied with this approach, though she emphasized that we need to be consistent and have solid documentation of our methodology.
I like this approach! For the quarterly reviews, are you finding that classifications change over time? For example, does new development eventually become maintenance in subsequent quarters?
Yes, we've definitely seen that transition from new development to maintenance over time. As features mature, work on them tends to shift from primarily new development to mostly maintenance and refinement. We actually created a simple lifecycle model where new features start as 100% development, then after initial release they transition to a mixed classification, and finally to predominantly maintenance after they've been in production for a certain period. The exact timing varies by feature complexity, but having this framework helps us be more consistent in our classifications over time.
Has anyone figured out how to handle open source contributions under Section 174? Our developers contribute to open source projects as part of their job, and I have no idea if that should be classified as R&E or something else entirely.
This is actually a nuanced question. Open source contributions can potentially qualify as R&E if they're related to your business and provide some benefit to your company's products or services. The key is whether these contributions represent research or experimentation that might lead to development of new products or improvements to existing ones.
One thing to consider - you might be able to deduct the mold inspection as a medical expense if you can document that you did it for health concerns. IRS Publication 502 covers medical expense deductions, and preventative care can sometimes qualify. You'd need to itemize on Schedule A, and only medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of your AGI are deductible. Since you're selling the property, another option is to add the cost of the mold inspection to your basis in the property, which would reduce any potential capital gains tax when you sell. Keep all documentation for this.
Thanks for this perspective! Since I'm planning to sell soon, adding it to the basis makes the most sense for me. Do I need any special documentation beyond the receipt and my communication with the builder to prove this should be part of my basis?
You'll want to keep the inspection report, receipt, and any communication with the builder or HOA that shows the inspection was necessary due to building defects. Also document that other units had confirmed mold issues, as this strengthens your case that the inspection was a necessary expense related to your property. For your basis calculation, maintain a file with all improvement costs, including this inspection. When you sell, you'll use IRS Form 8949 and Schedule D to report the sale, where your adjusted basis will offset the sale proceeds to determine your gain or loss.
If the builder is asking for a W9, I'm betting they're planning to issue a 1099-MISC in box 3 (Other Income). This is their standard procedure for paying non-employees. But here's the thing - the IRS actually has guidance on reimbursements vs income. If you want to avoid the tax impact entirely, try asking the builder if they'll pay the testing company directly instead of reimbursing you. Then no W9 is needed since you're not receiving any money.
This happened to me a couple years ago. Check if your employer correctly adjusted your tax withholding after your raise. Mine didn't, and I got hit with a huge bill. The higher your income goes, the more you need to pay attention to withholding. I'd recommend filling out a new W-4 form and submitting it to your HR department ASAP so this doesn't happen again next year. You might even want to add a little extra withholding to cover the difference.
Is there some calculator you can use to figure out the right withholding amount? I always struggle with this and either get a huge refund or end up owing.
Yes, the IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that's pretty accurate. Just google "IRS withholding calculator" and it should be the first result. You'll need your most recent pay stub and tax return handy when you use it. The calculator will tell you exactly how to fill out your W-4 based on your specific situation. It even lets you adjust whether you want a bigger refund or more money in each paycheck. I use it every time I get a raise or my life circumstances change, and it's kept my tax bill/refund pretty balanced.
Have you looked at the actual tax brackets for both years? With $202k income for married filing jointly, part of your income is definitely getting taxed at 24% now. The difference between 22% and 24% brackets might not seem like much, but applied to thousands of dollars it adds up fast. Also check your pay stubs to see if your employer is withholding at the correct rate. Sometimes payroll systems don't automatically adjust withholding when you get promoted.
Exactly this. I work in payroll and see this all the time. Payroll systems calculate withholding based on the assumption that each check is what you'll make all year. So if you get a raise midyear, the system doesn't know about your previous lower income months and doesn't withhold enough.
That's a great point about midyear raises. The payroll system treats each check as if you've been making that amount all year, which can lead to significant underwithholding. This is especially true for bonuses or people who get promoted partway through the tax year.
Fatima Al-Mansour
Quick tip for anyone doing energy efficiency upgrades: SAVE YOUR RECEIPTS and get detailed documentation from your contractor! I learned this the hard way last year. The contractor should itemize exactly what materials were used, their energy ratings, and installation costs. The IRS can request proof up to 3 years later (or longer if they suspect issues). Also, take before and after photos of the work. This isn't strictly required but has saved several friends during verification questions. And remember that the Inflation Reduction Act significantly expanded these credits, so the information you might find from pre-2023 could be outdated.
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MidnightRider
ā¢Does the contractor need to specifically write "energy efficient" or the R-value on the receipt? Mine just says "installation of insulation" without any specifics about the type or rating.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
ā¢Yes, you definitely want more detail than just "installation of insulation." The receipt or invoice should specify the type of insulation, the R-value, and ideally confirmation that it meets the required standards for the tax credit (which for insulation means it meets the 2009 International Energy Conservation Code standards). If your contractor hasn't provided this level of detail, I strongly recommend contacting them to request an updated invoice with the specifications. You should also ask for the manufacturer's certification statement that the product qualifies for the tax credit. These documents are crucial if you're ever audited, and many people get their credits denied simply because their paperwork was insufficient.
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Dylan Evans
Does anyone know if there's a deadline for installing these improvements to qualify for the 2025 tax year? I'm planning to do insulation in my attic but wondering if I should rush to get it done before a certain date.
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Sofia Gomez
ā¢Energy efficiency credits are claimed in the year the installation is completed. So if you want it on your 2025 taxes (filed in 2026), the installation needs to be finished by December 31, 2025. But honestly, with how backed up contractors are these days, I'd schedule it ASAP rather than waiting until the end of the year!
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