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One way to decide: calculate what your time is worth. If you make $40/hr at your job, and you're spending 10+ hours figuring out complicated tax situations, that's $400 of your time. A decent tax pro might charge $350-500 for your return with the complexity you described. So financially it can actually make sense.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I probably spent 15 hours last year just on my taxes, and that was before all these complications. Do you know if tax preparation fees are tax deductible?
Unfortunately, tax preparation fees aren't deductible for individuals anymore since the 2017 tax law changes. However, if you have a business (which you do with your craft sales), you can deduct the portion of tax prep fees related to your business on Schedule C. So if your tax preparer charges $400 and roughly 30% of your return complexity is from your business, you could deduct about $120 as a business expense. Make sure they break down their fee so you can document this properly!
Honestly I think ppl worry too much about this. I've got rental property and a side hustle AND crypto and I still use TurboTax Premier. If ur reasonably intelligent you can follow the questions. The audit risk is suuuuper low for most normal people. Tax pros are expensive af.
Something nobody has mentioned yet - you need to be careful about whether your business in Turkey is actually considered a foreign corporation rather than a sole proprietorship by US tax law, regardless of how it's set up in Turkey. If it's registered as any kind of separate legal entity in Turkey, the IRS might consider it a foreign corporation, which would require completely different tax forms (like Form 5471) and potentially expose you to Subpart F income and GILTI tax provisions. This is a huge distinction that would completely change how you report income and expenses. What specific legal structure did you use to establish the business in Turkey? The US tax treatment might be different than what you think.
I registered it as what they call an "individual enterprise" in Turkey, which is basically their version of a sole proprietorship. There's no separate legal entity - the business and I are the same for liability purposes. Does that change anything about how I should approach the US tax side?
That's good news! If it's truly equivalent to a US sole proprietorship with no separate legal entity status, then you're on the right track with Schedule C reporting. Just make sure you keep documentation showing the legal status in Turkey in case of any IRS questions. Just be aware that as your business grows, you might want to consider the implications of potential liability exposure since you're personally liable for the business. Many people with foreign operations eventually set up an LLC in the US that owns the foreign business operations to create some liability protection while still maintaining pass-through tax treatment.
Has anyone here used TurboTax to file with foreign business expenses? I'm in a similar situation with a business in Mexico and wondering if I need special software or if TurboTax Premium will handle Schedule C with foreign expenses properly.
I used TurboTax Self-Employed last year for my Canada-based consulting business and it handled the Schedule C foreign expenses fine. You just enter everything in USD after converting the amounts yourself. The software doesn't help with the currency conversion or FBAR filing though - you have to handle that separately.
This sounds exactly like what happened to me last year! The issue for me was that one software counted all my deductible business expenses on Schedule C while the other one missed some key categories. Go through both returns line by line and compare the final tax forms they generate. Also, don't forget to check if both software programs are properly accounting for any quarterly estimated tax payments you might have made during the year. That was another big discrepancy source for me.
Thanks for the tip about checking for quarterly payments! I actually did make two estimated payments last year that I almost forgot about. I'll definitely compare the forms side by side. Do you know where specifically I should look to see how each program is handling my self-employment income?
You'll want to look carefully at Schedule C (Profit or Loss From Business) on both returns. That's where your self-employment income and expenses are reported. Pay special attention to Part II where expenses are listed - sometimes one software will find more deductible expenses than another. For self-employment tax specifically, check Schedule SE (Self-Employment Tax). This is where you'll see if the program is calculating SE tax on the correct amount of income. The SE tax should only apply to your net profit from self-employment, not your W-2 wages.
As someone who used to do taxes professionally, I'd recommend comparing the actual forms that each software generates rather than just looking at the final numbers. You can usually preview your return before filing. Check these specific things: 1. Is your income categorized correctly on both (W-2 vs 1099)? 2. Are self-employment expenses being deducted properly? 3. Is the standard deduction being applied correctly? 4. Is self-employment tax being calculated only on 1099 income?
I've also seen cases where one software detects certain tax credits automatically while others make you manually enter the information. Especially education credits, child tax credits, and earned income credit. Worth checking those too!
Absolutely correct! The free versions especially can miss credits if you don't know to look for them. The Earned Income Tax Credit is particularly valuable if you qualify, but the software might not automatically check eligibility unless you answer certain questions correctly. Also, different software might handle state taxes differently, which can affect your overall tax picture. Some states have specific deductions or credits that certain free software versions might miss completely.
Have you considered gifting money to your dad instead? While you can't deduct gifts on your taxes, you are allowed to gift up to $17,000 per year to any individual without having to file a gift tax return. Anything over that amount would require filing Form 709, but you still wouldn't owe any taxes until you exceed your lifetime gift exemption (currently over $12 million). This isn't a tax deduction, but it at least gives you a way to support your father without any additional tax implications for you.
I appreciate the suggestion! In this case, I actually paid the hospital directly rather than gifting money to my dad, but that's good to know for future reference. Would it have made any difference tax-wise if I had sent him the money first and then he paid the hospital? Or is the end result the same either way?
The end result would be exactly the same tax-wise. Whether you pay the hospital directly or give your father the money to pay, the IRS views it the same way - as a gift to your father. Neither approach would give you a tax deduction. The only practical difference is that paying directly ensures the money is used for its intended purpose, and sometimes hospitals offer cash discounts or payment plans when working directly with them. But from a tax perspective, there's no advantage to either approach.
Just to add another option to consider - you could look at this from a business expense angle if applicable. Do you own a business or are you self-employed? If your father provided any services to your business (consulting, translation, administration, etc.) you could potentially pay him as a contractor and deduct that as a business expense. This needs to be legitimate work with proper documentation, but it's sometimes an option for families with international ties. Just make sure everything is properly documented with contracts, invoices, and evidence of the work performed.
Effie Alexander
Something nobody's mentioned - if you do rent below market rate to a family member, you should still report all the rental income on Schedule E, but you might be limited in the losses you can claim. If you charge Fair Market Rent, you can potentially deduct losses against your other income (subject to passive activity loss rules). If you don't charge Fair Market Rent, your deductions might be limited to the amount of rental income you received - meaning you can't claim a loss. It's in Publication 527, but it's kind of buried in there. Worth considering if you're planning to claim a loss.
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Melissa Lin
ā¢Is that always true though? I thought there were exceptions based on how many days you rent it and personal use days? The whole 14-day rule and all that?
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Lydia Santiago
Has anyone considered just charging full market rate to the family member, then gifting some money back separately? Like if market rate is $1500, charge them that, then gift $300 back each month? Wouldn't that avoid all these fair market rent issues?
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Tobias Lancaster
ā¢That approach could potentially create even bigger problems. The IRS looks at the substance of transactions, not just the form. If they determine the arrangement is actually a disguised below-market rental, they could disallow your rental expense deductions AND potentially treat the "gifts" as taxable rental income that you failed to report. Additionally, regular monthly gifts that coincide exactly with rent payments would look suspiciously like a tax avoidance scheme. It would be hard to argue these are genuine gifts rather than just a way to circumvent the Fair Market Rent rules. I'd strongly advise against this approach.
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Lydia Santiago
ā¢Ah, I see. I didn't realize the IRS would look at the whole picture like that. Makes sense though - it would be pretty obvious what was happening if the gifts lined up exactly with rent payments. Thanks for explaining!
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