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Don't overlook the Free File Fillable Forms option! It's limited, but some business forms are available. Go to irs.gov and search for Free File Fillable Forms. I'm not 100% sure if 7004 is included this year, but worth checking before paying a service.
I actually tried that first! Form 7004 isn't available through Free File Fillable Forms for 2025 filing season. I spent an hour searching the IRS site before giving up and looking for alternatives. Seems like the IRS really wants business filers to use paid preparers or software.
Thanks for clarifying that! You're right, I just double-checked and Form 7004 isn't on the Free File Fillable Forms list this year. That's disappointing since it's such a simple form. It does seem like the IRS pushes businesses toward paid options. Their justification is probably that businesses can deduct tax preparation expenses, but that doesn't help with cash flow when you're a small partnership just starting out.
Has anyone just mailed in the 7004? I printed the form from irs.gov and sent it certified mail last week. Now I'm panicking because I haven't received any confirmation. How do I know if the extension is actually approved???
Generally the IRS doesn't send confirmation for 7004 extensions when filed by mail. Extensions are automatically approved if properly completed and filed on time. If there's an issue, they'll contact you. Keep your certified mail receipt as proof of timely filing. If you need extra reassurance, you can call the IRS business tax line (might take several attempts to get through) and ask if your extension was processed - have your EIN ready.
For what it's worth, this happens more often than people realize with post-audit CP22 notices. The IRS systems don't always properly sync up the audit adjustments with their automated billing system. One tip that helped me: when you do get through to someone, ask them to document everything in your account notes. Then request a "record of account" transcript afterward to verify the corrections were properly noted in their system.
Can you request that transcript online or do you have to call again? This whole process gives me so much anxiety.
You can request a record of account transcript online through the IRS website if you have an online account set up. Go to irs.gov, log in to your account, and request the transcript. They usually process it within 5-10 business days. If you don't have an online account, you can also use Form 4506-T to request it by mail, but that takes longer (usually 2-3 weeks). The online method is definitely faster and easier if you're already set up with an online account.
Could this be penalty and interest on top of the original amount? When did you get the CP22 compared to when you agreed to the audit results? If it's been a while, the IRS adds penalties and interest which can really add up.
The audit concluded about 6 months ago, and I just got the CP22 yesterday. But even with penalties and interest, it shouldn't double the amount in just 6 months. The notice does break down some penalties and interest but the base amount itself is showing as around $6,800 instead of the $3,800 we agreed on during the audit. So something is definitely wrong with their calculations.
The IRS penalty rate is nowhere near 100% for 6 months. Even with the failure to pay penalty (0.5% per month) and interest (federal short-term rate plus 3%, currently around 7% annually), the most the penalties and interest should add is maybe 10-15% to the original amount over 6 months. Doubling the amount definitely indicates an error.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're documenting EVERYTHING during this Form 8300 audit reconsideration process. Keep records of all communications, copies of everything you send, certified mail receipts, etc. I went through this last year for my construction business and what ultimately saved me was having proof I'd actually sent in the original forms that the IRS claimed they never received. The penalties were about $35,000 and they dropped them completely once I provided proof of mailing. Also, the reconsideration took about 5 months in my case, and I did get several confusing letters during the process saying I still owed the penalties. Don't panic if that happens - just respond to each one referencing your reconsideration request.
Thanks for this tip! Did you end up getting any kind of confirmation that they received your reconsideration request? I'm worried about sending it and then it just disappearing into the void.
I did eventually get an acknowledgment letter about 3 weeks after sending my reconsideration request. It basically just said they received it and would respond within 90 days (which turned into 5 months, typical IRS). Make sure you send your request via certified mail with return receipt so you have proof they received it. I also included a cover letter specifically requesting an acknowledgment. If you don't hear anything after about 30 days, start calling to confirm they have your case in the system. This is where having that certified mail receipt becomes crucial - you can reference the delivery confirmation number.
Just went through this exact thing with Form 8300 penalties for my pawn shop. My advice - don't try to handle this yourself! The audit reconsideration process for these specific penalties is super technical. I hired a tax attorney who specializes in information reporting penalties (not one of those TV ad tax relief companies) and she got my penalties reduced from $42,000 to $4,500. Her fee was $3,000 so definitely worth it. The key was she knew exactly what documentation would constitute "reasonable cause" for my specific situation. The whole process took about 6 months from start to finish. Also, she advised me NOT to pay the penalties while we were fighting them, which turned out to be the right call in my case.
Any chance you could share what kind of documentation worked for establishing "reasonable cause"? I'm in a similar situation but can't afford an attorney right now.
One thing nobody's mentioned - are you claiming any tax credits? With your income level, you might qualify for the Saver's Credit (Form 8880) for your 401k contributions. Depending on your exact AGI, you could get up to 10% or 20% credit on your retirement contributions. Also, do you have any student loan interest, education expenses, or other potential deductions outside of what you mentioned? Those could potentially generate a refund if you're not accounting for them.
I had no idea about the Saver's Credit! I'll definitely look into that. I do have some student loan interest (about $1,200 last year) but I've been including that on my returns. I don't think I have any other major deductions I'm missing, but maybe I should double check. What's the income limit for the Saver's Credit? I'm worried I might make too much to qualify.
The Saver's Credit has phaseout limits that change annually. For the 2024 tax year (filing in 2025), the credit begins to phase out at $46,000 for single filers and is completely phased out at $71,000. With your income around $68,000, you might qualify for a partial credit, which could result in a small refund. Your student loan interest deduction is good to include - that's up to $2,500 in deductible interest annually. If you work from home at all, you might also want to check if you qualify for any home office deductions, especially if you're an independent contractor for any portion of your income. Every little bit helps!
Has anyone actually compared tax software to see if different programs give different refund amounts? Last year I tried my return on both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA and got a $340 difference between them - apparently TurboTax missed a deduction that FreeTaxUSA caught. Maybe try running your numbers through a different program than what you've been using?
YES! This happened to me too. H&R Block online gave me a completely different result than Credit Karma Tax (now Cash App Taxes). Turned out H&R Block was correctly applying a credit that Cash App missed. Definitely worth trying a different software.
Andrew Pinnock
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - have you considered asking the company to correct this? I had a similar situation where my employer mistakenly issued a 1099 instead of including payment on my W-2. I just called HR, explained the situation, and they issued a corrected W-2 and voided the 1099. Saved me a lot of hassle and self-employment tax!
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Brianna Schmidt
ā¢This is the best advice here! Companies make mistakes all the time with these forms. If you were an employee when you earned this bonus, they should be reporting it on a W-2, not a 1099-NEC. Self-employment tax is no joke - it's an extra 15.3% you shouldn't have to pay if you were an employee!
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Alexis Renard
Can you share roughly how much the bonus was? If it's a small amount, it might not be worth fighting over. But if we're talking thousands of dollars, the self-employment tax difference is significant enough that you might want to consider getting professional advice before filing.
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Sophia Long
ā¢It's $8,750. So yeah, not a small amount. The self-employment tax would be around $1,300 extra from what I calculated, which feels really unfair since this was literally just a bonus for being a good employee during the transition, not me running a business or doing freelance work.
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Alexis Renard
ā¢At $8,750, you're looking at approximately $1,340 in self-employment tax you wouldn't have paid if it had been properly included on a W-2. That's definitely worth addressing. Since the company won't correct the form, you have two main options: (1) File it on Schedule C as they reported it, but maximize any legitimate business deductions to reduce the taxable amount, or (2) Report it as "other income" which avoids self-employment tax but could trigger a mismatch notice from the IRS since it doesn't match how the company reported it. Option 1 is safest but most expensive, while option 2 saves money but carries some audit risk.
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