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Why are we owing so much more on taxes this year despite withholding changes?

My husband and I are completely baffled by our tax situation this year. Last year we owed $2,300, so we both adjusted our W-4 forms to increase our withholding. I thought that would fix the problem, but now we owe $5,400!!! My husband is totally freaking out. Here's a breakdown of our financial situation: Me: - Wages: $132,450 - Medicare wages/tips: $141,200 - Federal tax withheld: $15,300 - SS tax withheld: $8,750 - Medicare tax withheld: $2,050 - Group term life insurance: $170 - 401K contributions: $8,200 - Employer health coverage: $10,250 Husband: - Wages: $98,200 - Medicare wages/tips: $98,200 - Federal tax withheld: $10,700 - SS tax withheld: $6,090 - Medicare tax withheld: $1,425 - Group term life insurance: $65 - Roth 401K contributions: $6,000 - Employer health coverage: $11,500 He also had: - Interest income: $7 - Dividend income: $2,715 - Capital losses: -$1,670 We have a house but our itemized deductions only came to about $21K so we took the standard deduction. Our total tax came to $31,600 Income tax withheld: $26,000 Amount we owe: $5,400 Does anything look weird here? Should we consider filing separately? I'm wondering if his Roth 401K would be taxed at a lower bracket if he files alone. We're trying to find a CPA who can see us before the deadline, but if that doesn't work out I'm thinking we should just pay the $5,400 and file an extension to figure things out. The timing couldn't be worse - we have our first baby coming in a few months and my husband is stressing about this unexpected tax hit. We have enough in savings to cover it, but I'd love to find ways to reduce what we owe. I'm worried we just didn't withhold enough despite the W-4 changes. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

PrinceJoe

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Have you looked at whether you're hitting the Social Security tax cap? For 2025, the Social Security wage base limit is $168,600. If your combined incomes are higher than the cap, you might be overwithholding on Social Security at one job. It doesn't look like either of you individually is over the cap based on the numbers you shared, but something to consider for future planning. Also, consider adjusting your tax withholdings for the baby's arrival. You'll be eligible for the Child Tax Credit which could be worth up to $2,000, depending on your income. This could help offset some of your tax burden next year.

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Anita George

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That's good to know about the Social Security cap, though like you said we're both under it individually. I didn't realize the Child Tax Credit could be that significant! Would we need to adjust our W-4s again after the baby is born to account for the credit, or does that automatically reduce what we owe at tax time?

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PrinceJoe

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You'd need to update your W-4s again after the baby is born to account for the Child Tax Credit. It doesn't happen automatically during the year - it would only reduce what you owe when you file your taxes otherwise. On your W-4, you would indicate the dependent in Step 3, which would then reduce your withholding throughout the remainder of the year. When you update your W-4s, you'll probably want to do it soon after the baby is born to maximize the withholding adjustment for the rest of the year. Just be aware that the Child Tax Credit begins to phase out at higher income levels (starts phasing out at $400,000 for married filing jointly), but based on your income you should still qualify for at least a partial credit.

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I'd strongly recommend switching to scheduled quarterly estimated tax payments rather than trying to get withholding perfect. My spouse and I have similar incomes to yours, and we always owed at tax time until we started doing this. We calculate approx 25% of our projected annual tax and make quarterly payments directly to the IRS (due April 15, June 15, Sept 15, and Jan 15). It's way easier than constantly adjusting W-4s, especially with a baby on the way which will change your tax situation again.

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Owen Devar

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I second this approach. With our W-2 income plus investment income, quarterly estimated payments have been a lifesaver. The peace of mind knowing we won't have a surprise tax bill is worth the extra effort. Just make sure you're paying at least 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000) to avoid underpayment penalties.

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StarSurfer

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Worth noting here that while these expenses are deductible, you should be careful about how you categorize them on your tax forms. I entered mine under "Advertising" on Schedule C (line 8) rather than as "Other expenses" since that's what they essentially are - a modern form of advertising.

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Do you need to keep special documentation beyond the invoices from the production company? My accountant mentioned something about needing to document the "business purpose" but wasn't clear what that meant exactly.

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StarSurfer

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Beyond the invoices, I'd recommend keeping a simple log that documents the business purpose of each video. Nothing complicated - just a spreadsheet with video titles, publication dates, and a brief note about how each relates to your business (like "demonstrates expertise in X service" or "explains process relevant to potential clients"). This extra documentation isn't strictly required, but it's extremely helpful if you ever get audited. I learned this the hard way when I had to justify some marketing expenses during a review. Having a clear business purpose documented for each expense makes the process much smoother.

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Just to add another perspective - I've been deducting YouTube production costs for 3 years now ($3500-5000 per video) and never had an issue. My videos are educational about financial planning but obviously help me get clients. My tax software (TurboTax) specifically mentioned that content marketing is a legitimate advertising expense when I was entering the deductions.

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Omar Hassan

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Which category in TurboTax did you use for this? I'm trying to enter similar expenses and getting confused about where they belong.

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Lucy Taylor

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I noticed this too and discovered that what's happening is the IRS is now pre-printing the quarter on each version of the 941. If you look at the current year forms, you'll see they have "941 for Quarter 1" or similar printed right on them. So no more checking boxes! Make sure you download the specific form for the quarter you're filing. If you're using tax software, it should automatically select the right one, but if you're downloading directly from IRS.gov, make sure to get the correct quarterly version.

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This tripped me up too! I didn't realize they changed it this way. Is this true for all the quarterly forms now or just the 941?

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Lucy Taylor

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This change is primarily for Form 941, but the IRS has been moving toward more form-specific versions for several reporting requirements. Form 941-X (the amended return) still requires you to check which quarter you're correcting. Some other quarterly forms still use the traditional checkbox method, but the IRS seems to be gradually transitioning more forms to the quarter-specific model. Always best to download the most current version directly from IRS.gov or use up-to-date tax software to be sure.

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KhalilStar

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Anyone know if they'll reject your form if you manage to bypass the greyed out section and put an X there anyway? I didn't realize this change and submitted one where I basically forced an X in that box. Now I'm worried.

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They won't reject it as long as you used the correct quarterly form. I did the same thing - printed it out and manually marked the box even though it was greyed out. The IRS agent I spoke with said it's fine because they can tell which quarter you're filing for based on the form version itself. They're just trying to phase out that manual selection to reduce errors. So you should be good!

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GalacticGuru

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Just want to add another angle here - if your company discovers this arrangement, it could be considered a violation of your corporate ethics policy. Many companies have specific provisions against circumventing policy limitations. I used to work in corporate compliance, and we would consider this a clear policy violation that could result in disciplinary action. Companies take matching gift programs seriously as they're part of their charitable budget and tax planning. The risk to your professional reputation might not be worth it.

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Ethan Taylor

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Do you think there's any legitimate way my coworker and I could structure this that wouldn't violate policies? What if he just gave me the money as a birthday gift with no strings attached, and then months later I happen to donate to that charity?

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GalacticGuru

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Even with separation in time, the arrangement is still designed to circumvent company policy, which is problematic regardless of how it's structured. Most corporate ethics policies look at intent, not just technical compliance. A legitimate alternative would be for your coworker to donate their full intended amount directly to the charity, and you could separately donate to the same charity if you genuinely support their cause. This way, both donations would be legitimate, the company match would apply appropriately based on actual employee giving, and there would be no ethical concerns. The charity might receive slightly less overall, but without any risk to your employment or tax standing.

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Has anyone considered that the charity might have ways to handle this situation? Many larger charities have programs for corporate matching optimization and might have legitimate solutions. I would suggest your coworker contact the charity's development office directly. They deal with matching gift situations all the time and might have proper ways to maximize the donation without creating problems.

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Great point! When I worked in nonprofit development, we had several approaches for donors in this exact situation. Some options included spreading the donation across multiple tax years, involving family members who could make legitimate donations, or exploring donor-advised funds which sometimes have their own matching programs.

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Ana Rusula

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I'm a little confused by what everyone is suggesting. If the sales on eBay were just personal items (like selling old clothes, furniture, electronics you no longer needed), that's usually not taxable if you sold them for less than you originally paid. The IRS calls this selling at a loss. It's only taxable if you made a profit or if this was like a business where you were buying stuff specifically to resell.

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Mary Bates

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Most of what I sold were collectibles I'd been buying and flipping, so definitely not personal items sold at a loss. I was buying things specifically to resell at a higher price, so based on what you're saying, it sounds like I would owe taxes on this income. I'm guessing this would count as a business activity?

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Ana Rusula

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Yes, that definitely counts as business activity since you were buying with the intention to resell at a profit. That would be subject to both income tax and self-employment tax (15.3% on top of regular income tax). But the good news is you can deduct all your legitimate business expenses - the cost of the items you purchased to resell, any shipping supplies, eBay and PayPal fees, mileage driven to purchase inventory or ship items, a portion of your internet if you're listing from home, etc. These deductions can substantially reduce the taxable profit.

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Fidel Carson

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Just so you know, the IRS has started getting reports from payment processors like PayPal and Venmo for transactions over $600 starting in 2023 (was supposed to be 2022 but they delayed it). So even though you might not have received 1099s for previous years, going forward they'll have more visibility into your online sales income.

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That's only for goods and services payments though right? If you use friends and family that doesn't get reported.

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Fidel Carson

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Correct, it's only for goods and services payments. But using Friends and Family for business transactions is against PayPal's terms of service and can get your account limited or banned. Plus, as a buyer, you lose purchase protection when using Friends and Family. More importantly, deliberately using Friends and Family to avoid tax reporting could be considered tax evasion if the IRS can prove intent. Many platforms are getting better at detecting when people are trying to circumvent the system, so it's a risky strategy that can lead to bigger problems down the road.

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