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Quick tip for anyone with address changes: I learned the hard way that you should file Form 8822 (Change of Address) with the IRS separately from your tax return. Even if you put your new address on your tax return, filing the separate form makes sure ALL IRS systems get updated. I had issues with notices going to my old address even after I updated it on my return.
Does that Form 8822 need to be filed before or after submitting your tax return? I already filed with TurboTax but now I'm worried about this address issue.
You can file Form 8822 anytime - before, after, or completely separate from your tax return. It's basically just a standalone address update for the IRS's records. If you've already filed your return with your new address, filing Form 8822 afterward is still a good idea because it ensures the address change is processed across all IRS systems. Sometimes the address update from a tax return doesn't propagate to every IRS department.
Has anyone had issues with TurboTax not saving the correct address? I swear I entered my new address but when I reviewed my return it had reverted to my old one from last year.
YES! This happened to me too! I had to go back through each section carefully. Turns out TurboTax pulls your address from last year automatically, but then there's a separate section where you need to update your "current address" if you've moved. Super confusing interface. Check the personal info section again and make sure you updated both places.
Just for future reference - if you're ever uncertain about whether an extension was properly filed, you have several options: 1. Call the IRS directly (though prepare for long wait times) 2. Check your IRS online account through their website 3. Use your tax transcript (can be requested online) 4. Ask your tax preparer for confirmation documentation Also worth noting that if you're getting a refund, there's actually no penalty for filing after the deadline - the penalty only applies if you owe taxes. The extension is primarily important if you owe money, as it extends the filing deadline but not the payment deadline.
Thanks for all these options! I just checked and I do have a refund coming, so I'm guessing I wouldn't have been penalized anyway? Also, what's the tax transcript and how would that help? Never heard of that before.
Yes, if you're getting a refund, you wouldn't face failure-to-file penalties even if the extension wasn't properly filed. The IRS only issues penalties when you owe them money, not when they owe you. A tax transcript is a document from the IRS that shows key information from your tax record, including extensions filed, payments made, and return status. You can request one for free through the IRS website. For your situation, the "account transcript" would show if an extension was filed. It's basically a timeline of all transactions and status changes related to your tax account for a specific year.
One thing nobody has mentioned - check if your STATE taxes also got extended! Federal and state extensions are often separate processes. Just because you have a federal extension doesn't automatically mean your state deadline was extended too. Some states require separate extension requests while others automatically grant extensions if you received a federal one.
Omg I didn't even think about state taxes! I'm in California - does anyone know if they automatically extend when federal is extended?
Just to add another perspective - I'm a dance mom with a 7-year-old who made around $26k last year from competitions and a few commercials. We definitely still claimed her as a dependent. The key thing we did was keep good records showing that her earnings went into a separate account that we rarely touched for her regular expenses. We continued paying for her housing, food, clothing, etc. from our own money, which made it super clear that we were providing her support. One thing to watch for: we did use some of her money for expenses directly related to her dancing (costumes, travel to competitions, etc.). Our tax preparer said this was fine and didn't count against the support calculation.
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to hear from someone in a similar situation. Did you have to fill out any special forms to document the support calculation, or did you just keep your own records in case of an audit?
We didn't have to submit any special forms with our tax return specifically for the support calculation. Our tax preparer just had us keep good documentation (basically a spreadsheet showing our household expenses and what portion went to our daughter). The most important thing was making sure our daughter's tax return properly indicated she could be claimed as a dependent on someone else's return. That way the systems don't flag a conflict. Keep records of major expenses you pay for your daughter in case you ever get questioned, but in our experience, this was a pretty straightforward situation once we understood the support test isn't about income but about who's paying for living expenses.
Has anyone considered the kiddie tax implications here? While your child can still be your dependent regardless of income, earnings over a certain amount get taxed at the PARENT'S tax rate - not the child's rate. For 2025, I think the threshold is around $2,500 of unearned income.
The kiddie tax only applies to unearned income (interest, dividends, capital gains, etc.), not earned income from actual work. Since OP's child is earning money from modeling/commercial work, that's considered earned income and would be taxed at the child's own rate, not the parents' rate.
My accountant told me that with rental properties, you need to show intent to make a profit. If you only had one friend stay as a favor, the IRS might consider it a hobby rather than a business, which means different tax rules. Make sure you document all your efforts to market the property as a rental, even if you weren't successful in getting many tenants yet. For the depreciation of furniture/appliances, my understanding is that depreciation must begin when you place the items "in service" - you don't get to choose when to start it. But "in service" means when the property is available for rent, not necessarily when you purchase the items.
This hobby vs business distinction is worrying me now. I definitely intend to make a profit, but with only $360 in income for 2024 and thousands in expenses, will the IRS see this as a legitimate business? We had the property listed on several rental sites but just had bad timing with the market in our area.
Don't worry too much - the IRS looks at your intent and efforts, not just your initial results. Save copies of your rental listings, any advertising you did, and documentation of your efforts to rent the property. This shows you were genuinely trying to operate as a business. The IRS generally allows new businesses some time to become profitable. They use a guideline that if you show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years, they'll presume you have a profit motive. Your first year being mostly preparation is very common in real estate. Just make sure you keep excellent records of all expenses and your efforts to rent the property. This documentation will be crucial if you're ever questioned about your business intent.
Has anyone used Schedule E for a property that was only partially rented during the year? I'm confused about how to allocate expenses between personal and rental use when the property was under renovation for most of the year.
I had a similar situation last year. You need to allocate expenses based on both time and usage. For example, if your property was available for rent for 3 months out of the year, you'd allocate 25% of annual expenses like insurance, property taxes, etc. to the rental activity. Then within those 3 months, if it was only actually rented for 10 days, you need to keep personal use vs. rental use straight too. Publication 527 has worksheets for this. It gets complicated fast!
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Just to add another perspective - rounding on tax forms is actually pretty standard. For most personal tax returns, you round to the nearest dollar anyway (not cent). The instruction booklet for Form 1040 specifically says to round to the whole dollar. While financial institutions have their own specific reporting requirements, the 2 cents you're concerned about wouldn't impact your tax liability at all. Even if it's technically off by a penny or two from the actual precise amount, it's not something the IRS would ever flag or be concerned about.
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Ev Luca
ā¢So wait, does that mean I should be rounding all the numbers on my tax return to the nearest dollar instead of including cents? I've been reporting down to the penny on everything for years!
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Misterclamation Skyblue
ā¢Yes, the official IRS guidance is to round to the nearest dollar on your personal tax returns. If it's 50 cents or more, round up. If it's less than 50 cents, round down. This applies to Form 1040 and most related schedules. This is different from how the amounts might appear on your information returns like W-2s or 1099s, which sometimes include cents. But when you transfer those amounts to your tax return, you typically round each line to the nearest dollar. Most tax software does this automatically for you.
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Peyton Clarke
I'm actually a bit confused with my investment platform too. The 1099-B shows some weird rounding on various transactions. For the smaller amounts (under $1) they seem to be rounding to zero completely. Is this actually allowed? Seems wrong that they can just eliminate taxable events.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
ā¢Yes, in some cases financial institutions are permitted to exclude de minimis amounts (very small values). There are specific thresholds for different types of income where reporting isn't required. For example, if interest income is less than $10, it generally doesn't need to be reported on a 1099-INT. For 1099-B forms specifically, there are complex reporting rules about small transactions. If your platform is zeroing out very small amounts, they're likely following applicable guidelines. Remember though, technically you're still supposed to report all income regardless of whether you received a form for it.
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