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Something nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're keeping super detailed records of when you converted the property! The IRS loves to challenge the timing of when a property was "placed in service" as a rental. Document when you started advertising it for rent, any improvements you made specifically for renting it out, when you signed the lease, etc. My cousin got audited last year specifically on this issue - he had converted his house to a rental but couldn't prove exactly when, and the IRS disallowed several months of depreciation. It's not just about WHAT goes into your basis but WHEN you can start taking the deduction.
This is a really good point! So for documentation purposes, would things like rental listings, a copy of the lease agreement, and property management contracts be sufficient? My property was vacant for about 2 months between when I moved out and when I found tenants, so I'm not sure exactly when it counts as "placed in service.
Yes, those documents would be excellent proof. The IRS considers a property "placed in service" when it's ready and available for rent - not necessarily when you actually get a tenant. So if you moved out, did any needed repairs/updates, and then listed it for rent, the property is considered "placed in service" on the date it was first available to rent (when you started advertising it). The key is being able to prove that date with documentation. Save copies of rental listings showing the date posted, emails with potential tenants, records of any improvements you made specifically for rental purposes, and definitely the final lease agreement. If you hired a property manager, their contract and any correspondence about listing the property would also be excellent documentation.
I converted a property last year and used TurboTax Premier to handle all this. It actually walks you through the whole process of determining your basis when converting from personal to rental. It asked for my original purchase price, closing costs, improvements made during personal use, and then the FMV at conversion. Then calculated everything correctly including the land/building split for depreciation purposes. Just another option if you don't want to DIY all the calculations.
Did TurboTax automatically know to include the real estate commission from the original purchase? I'm using H&R Block software and it didn't specifically ask about that.
Just make sure your side hustle qualifies as a business and not a hobby. If the IRS determines it's a hobby, you can't deduct losses against your regular income. You need to show that you're trying to make a profit and not just doing it for fun. Keep good records of everything - advertising efforts, business plans, time spent working on it, etc.
That's a good point! What specific things should I document to show I'm running this as a legitimate business? I definitely want to turn a profit, but it's taking time to build up my designs and customer base.
You should keep track of how many hours you spend working on the business each week, have a separate business bank account, maintain professional records of income and expenses, create a business plan with profit projections, and document your marketing efforts. Also consider getting business cards, a business website or professional social media presence, and perhaps even form an LLC if you're serious about it long-term. The key is demonstrating that you're approaching this in a businesslike manner with the intention to make profit, even if you haven't gotten there yet. The IRS typically looks for profitability in 3 out of 5 years, but showing these business practices helps even if you're still in the early stages.
For the computer depreciation specifically, since you use it primarily for business, you can typically use the Modified Accelerated Cost Recovery System (MACRS) to depreciate it over 5 years, OR use Section 179 to deduct the full amount this year. Since your business had a loss, you might actually be better off with regular depreciation to spread the deduction over future years when you might have more income to offset.
Everyone here is overreacting. If the W2 was for a small amount, the IRS might not even bother. My brother left off a $1200 W2 once and nothing ever happened. Just saying...sometimes it's not worth the hassle of amending.
That's terrible advice. The IRS receives copies of all W2s and their system automatically matches them to tax returns. Just because your brother got lucky doesn't mean it's smart to intentionally ignore a known error. The penalties and interest will be much worse if you wait for them to find it.
I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, just sharing what happened in my brother's case. It's ultimately about risk tolerance. For small amounts, sometimes the IRS collection efforts cost more than they'd recover so they don't pursue it. You're right that the proper action is to file an amendment. I was just offering a different perspective based on a real experience. Everyone has to decide their own comfort level with risk.
Has anyone calculated approximately how much tax might be owed on a forgotten W2? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth amending my return for about $2400 in forgotten wages or just waiting to see if I get a letter.
It depends on your overall tax situation, but as a rough estimate, you'd owe your marginal tax rate on that amount. So if you're in the 22% bracket, that's about $528 plus potential penalties and interest. The penalty for not reporting it can be around 0.5% per month up to 25% of the tax owed, plus interest that compounds daily.
Here's another wrinkle - if you took any distributions from your old IRA before the rollover, you should receive a Form 1099-R from the original trustee. THAT form you do need to report on your taxes, even if you rolled over the full amount to the new trustee within 60 days. But if it was a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer where you never touched the money, then no 1099-R should be issued.
It was definitely a direct transfer where I never received any funds personally - I just authorized the new bank to pull the funds from my old IRA. So sounds like I won't get a 1099-R either. But hypothetically, if someone DID receive a check and then deposited it in the new IRA within 60 days, how would they report that? Just curious for future reference.
In a direct transfer where you never received the funds, you're correct that you won't receive a 1099-R, and there's nothing to report on your tax return. If someone did receive a distribution check and then completed a 60-day rollover, they would receive a 1099-R from the first institution with distribution code G. They would need to report this on their tax return (generally on lines 4a and 4b of Form 1040), showing the full amount on line 4a but putting $0 on line 4b (since it's not taxable if properly rolled over). They would write "Rollover" next to line 4b to indicate why the taxable amount is zero. This ensures the IRS knows you received funds but properly rolled them over within the allowed timeframe.
I work at a tax preparation office and see this confusion all the time. Here's a quick guide: Form 5498: Shows contributions TO an IRA and account value Form 1099-R: Shows distributions FROM an IRA Trustee-to-trustee: Not reportable on your return (nothing to do) 60-day rollover: Reportable, but not taxable if done properly Most tax software will specifically ask if you had a rollover and guide you through it. Don't stress about the 5498 coming in May - it's designed that way intentionally!
Natasha Volkova
You might also be dealing with a misclassification issue. Some small construction companies incorrectly treat employees as independent contractors. Did you get paystubs with tax withholdings or just straight cash payments? If they didn't withhold taxes, they might be trying to issue some weird hybrid form that doesn't make sense.
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Javier Torres
ā¢This happened to my brother! His construction job gave him a weird W2 that was mostly empty and later claimed he was "1099" but never gave him an actual 1099. He had to pay all the taxes himself and it was a nightmare.
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Emma Davis
Make sure you file on time even if this isn't resolved! You can file Form 4852 as a substitute W-2 based on your best records of what you earned. If you have paystubs, bank deposits, or even a written record of hours worked Ć your hourly rate, use that to calculate your income. Then file an amended return later if needed when you get the correct W-2. Don't let their mistake cause you to miss the filing deadline!
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