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Your family member might be confusing net income vs gross income. If they made $150k GROSS but had $110k in legitimate business expenses, their NET taxable income could be around $40k. At that level, $4k in taxes might be reasonable. As a small business owner, I can write off: - Office space/home office - Equipment (computer, phone, etc) - Software subscriptions - Marketing costs - Travel for business - Professional development - Health insurance premiums
But wouldn't they still have to pay self-employment tax too? Even with $40k net income, shouldn't that be more than $4k total tax between income tax and SE tax?
You're absolutely right about self-employment tax. Even with $40k net income, they would owe about 15.3% in self-employment tax alone, which would be around $6,120. Then they'd still owe some amount of income tax on top of that, even after taking the standard deduction.
Has anyone considered they might be maxing out retirement accounts? Self-employed people can contribute way more to retirement than regular employees. They could be putting like $60k+ into a SEP IRA or solo 401k which would drastically reduce their taxable income.
That's a great point. For 2023, self-employed individuals could contribute up to $66,000 to a Solo 401(k) if they're under 50. Add in a maxed HSA contribution and some business expenses, and you could bring that taxable income way down legitimately.
Former tax preparer here. Just want to add that if you had taxes withheld from your paychecks (which is likely with warehouse jobs), you might actually be OWED money by the IRS instead of owing them! The 3-year deadline for claiming refunds hasn't passed for all the years you mentioned, so you could still get some money back. Don't let fear keep you from potentially getting YOUR money back.
Is there a cutoff for how far back you can claim refunds? I haven't filed for 6 years but had withholding the whole time.
Yes, there is a cutoff - it's 3 years from the original due date of the return. So for example, 2022 tax returns were due April 18, 2023, meaning you have until April 18, 2026 to claim any refund for that year. For 2021 returns, you have until April 15, 2025. Unfortunately for your situation with 6 unfiled years, you've likely lost the ability to claim refunds for the oldest 3 years, but you can still get refunds for the most recent 3 tax years if you're owed them.
PSA for everyone in this thread: The IRS has a "Fresh Start" program specifically designed for people who haven't filed or have tax debt. It includes payment plans, offer in compromise (settling for less than you owe), and first-time penalty abatement. Don't be scared - I promise the IRS deals with this ALL THE TIME and they have processes to help people get back on track.
Most large companies should offer some kind of stipend or reimbursement for home office expenses, especially if they're requiring you to work remotely. Have you checked with your HR department to see if they have a policy for this? My company gives us $50/month for internet and a one-time $500 allowance for home office setup. This is actually better than the tax deduction would be anyway, since reimbursements through a qualified accountable plan are completely tax-free to you, while deductions only give you back a percentage based on your tax bracket.
I haven't actually tried asking my company about this. Is there a specific way I should approach this conversation with HR? I'm not sure if they have an official policy, but it makes sense that they should help cover these costs since they're not providing an office space.
I'd suggest starting with an email to your manager or HR outlining your home office expenses related to work. Be specific about costs like increased utilities, internet requirements for work, and any furniture or equipment you've purchased to do your job effectively. Frame it as a question about whether the company has an accountable plan or stipend program for remote workers, rather than demanding reimbursement. Many companies have these policies but don't publicize them well. If they don't have a formal policy, this could prompt them to create one, especially if other remote workers have similar needs.
Just want to point out that some states DO still allow home office deductions for employees even though federal doesn't. Check your state tax rules. I'm in New York and was able to deduct my home office on my state return last year even though I couldn't on federal.
One important thing nobody has mentioned: make sure you're using the CURRENT version of Form W7! The IRS updated it recently and they can reject your application if you use an outdated form. Also, if you're filing multiple years with one W7, consider getting a Certified Acceptance Agent to help. They can verify your ID documents so you don't have to mail in originals of your passport or other identification. Saved me a lot of stress about losing important documents in the mail.
Where can you find these Certified Acceptance Agents? Are they at all H&R Blocks or is it a special place you need to go to?
Not all H&R Block locations have Certified Acceptance Agents (CAAs), but many do - you need to call and ask specifically. You can also find a complete list of CAAs on the IRS website by searching "IRS certified acceptance agent list" which shows all authorized agents by location. Some CAAs only work with certain types of clients though (like some only help businesses, others only help individuals), so make sure to ask if they handle individual ITIN applications when you call. Most charge a fee on top of any tax preparation services, usually around $50-100 for document verification, but it's worth it to avoid sending original documents.
did anybody here actually get an ITIN and then later get a social security #? im in that situation now and confused about what to do with my taxes this year...used an ITIN last year but now have SSN. do i need to tell the irs somehow??
Fatima Al-Suwaidi
One tip nobody mentioned - make sure you're also considering if you need to amend your state tax return to reflect this additional 1099 income! Most states require you to report federal changes. I had a similar situation with multiple amendments and got hit with a state penalty because I only fixed the federal return.
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AstroAdventurer
ā¢Good point about the state return! If I amend my federal return for this 1099 income, do I need to wait until the IRS processes that amendment before filing the state amendment? Or should I do both at the same time?
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
ā¢You should check your specific state's requirements as they vary. Most states want you to wait until the federal amendment is completed and accepted by the IRS before filing a state amendment. This is because they'll want you to include a copy of your federal acceptance letter or transcript showing the changes. Some states have a specific timeframe (like 60 or 90 days) after your federal amendment is finalized to submit your state amendment. Missing this deadline can result in penalties, so definitely check your state tax agency's website for their specific process.
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Dylan Cooper
Does anyone know if the $1040 income from watching a special needs family member would be considered household employment (requiring Schedule H) rather than self-employment? I had a similar situation and my accountant said it made a difference in how it's taxed.
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Sofia Morales
ā¢It depends on who controlled the work. If the family directed exactly how and when care was provided, it might be household employment. If OP was more independent in providing care on their own terms, it's likely self-employment. The distinction matters because household employees don't pay self-employment tax, but employers should pay their share of FICA taxes.
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